Shocked and Awed
I've been looking for some ammo for my arguments IRL. Rather than doing real research, I tend to come here.
It is fucking shocking how public opinion in our country is swinging to sympathy for Palestinians. NVM the naked aggression of 10/7. These fucking people who practice their religion more zealously and barbarically than anyone did in medieval times are impossible to reach on any level other than brutal violence, and it's not a few crazies in Hamas and a population of peace loving folks just trying to get by. Hamas enjoys wide support, and almost all of them agree on the ultimate goal.
What was Israel to do? A ground attack ahead of air strikes? Yeah, no casualties involved with that approach.
And can someone tell me why everyone keeps saying Israel occupies all the land in the territory? Seems like 10/7 should have done away with that idea. To me, occupation means what the Germans did in France. I don't see Israel occupying shit hole Gaza. Why do people keep saying that? If Israel occupied Gaza, 10/7 doesn't happen.
I need some help here.
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And, frankly, this is where the anti-neo con position that Trump and others tout gets challenged. Generally, yes, I agree, stop being the world's traffic cop.
But this shit. If Iran has its way and Israel were to fall, which is THE goal, what the fuck is next?
Honestly, the issue is that we pussy foot around over there. Go in and clean house and raze it to the ground Berlin style or just forget it.
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I don't think there is a lot of disagreement here. Maybe on funding. My position is that if the US and the west didn't give billions to Iran and Hamas Israel wouldn't need a dime. It would have been over
People are stupid and the media is the enemy. Aid is used for weapons and pauses are used to dig in. Oh civilians are being killed
Yeah tough shit
I'm more concerned about how dumb the west is about this and seeing terrorist trash in OUR streets
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Another major fuck up. Thanks Biden.RaceBannon said:I don't think there is a lot of disagreement here. Maybe on funding. My position is that if the US and the west didn't give billions to Iran and Hamas Israel wouldn't need a dime. It would have been over
Preach. No shit. Look how quickly the liberal elite turn on Israel the moment they see someone brown who they perceive is being oppressed. It's like fucking clockwork. Tell them that 98% (probably more) of that population, outside of Hamas, views Israel's existence as a life mission and you get "but but war crimes! but but civilians!" GMAFBRaceBannon said:I'm more concerned about how dumb the west is about this and seeing terrorist trash in OUR streets
Go home and live in the 7th century and fuck off
And these dumb smart kids at Harvard and Princeton - they want to protest and harass Jews but are flabbergasted when they get doxed and their names are named and CEOs of Investment Banks, who are decidedly patriotic because, you know, the country has been good to them, say "I'm not hiring you you Islamaterrorist loving POS".
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Bazey is like most Iranian people in America. An Uber driver. I kid
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Besides, as any Iranian will be quick to point out to you, they are Persian and have a long and proud history. Like Havana, Tehran was a fashionable place to be at one time.RaceBannon said:Bazey is like most Iranian people in America. An Uber driver. I kid
Iranians are great Americans.
Carter sold them out.
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Can confirm.creepycoug said:
Besides, as any Iranian will be quick to point out to you, they are Persian and have a long and proud history. Like Havana, Tehran was a fashionable place to be at one time.RaceBannon said:Bazey is like most Iranian people in America. An Uber driver. I kid
Iranians are great Americans.
Carter sold them out.
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The US sending billions every year is why Israel has pussy footed around for all these years.creepycoug said:And, frankly, this is where the anti-neo con position that Trump and others tout gets challenged. Generally, yes, I agree, stop being the world's traffic cop.
But this shit. If Iran has its way and Israel were to fall, which is THE goal, what the fuck is next?
Honestly, the issue is that we pussy foot around over there. Go in and clean house and raze it to the ground Berlin style or just forget it. -
Agree. The money always had stringsBob_C said:
The US sending billions every year is why Israel has pussy footed around for all these years.creepycoug said:And, frankly, this is where the anti-neo con position that Trump and others tout gets challenged. Generally, yes, I agree, stop being the world's traffic cop.
But this shit. If Iran has its way and Israel were to fall, which is THE goal, what the fuck is next?
Honestly, the issue is that we pussy foot around over there. Go in and clean house and raze it to the ground Berlin style or just forget it.
No money for either side and Israel already has won
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The founders said "Musselman" are incompatible with our beliefs.
It is a religion based on domination, rape and murder of anyone who is not one. World domination is ithe goal. -
The writing is on the wall
"mene, mene, tekel, parsin"
539 BCE
FTR It was a Persian named Cyrus who conquered Babylon and king Belshazzar and freed the Jews from Babylonian enslavement and even financed the rebuilding of Jerusalem Temple long before the Romans were a thing and destroyed Jerusalem in AD70 and renamed the land Palestina in an effort to erase Israel and the Jews from the land.
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I was thinking about thisBlueduck said:The writing is on the wall
"mene, mene, tekel, parsin"
539 BCE
FTR It was a Persian named Cyrus who conquered Babalon and king Belshazzar and freed the Jews from Babylonian enslavement and even financed the rebuilding of Jerusalem Temple long before the Romans were a thing and destroyed Jerusalem in AD70 and renamed the land Palestina in an effort to erase Israel and the Jews from the land. -
I knew that.RaceBannon said:
I was thinking about thisBlueduck said:The writing is on the wall
"mene, mene, tekel, parsin"
539 BCE
FTR It was a Persian named Cyrus who conquered Babalon and king Belshazzar and freed the Jews from Babylonian enslavement and even financed the rebuilding of Jerusalem Temple long before the Romans were a thing and destroyed Jerusalem in AD70 and renamed the land Palestina in an effort to erase Israel and the Jews from the land. -
It's because anyone who sides with a bunch of inbred barbaric zealot terrorists is hopeless
So there's no point of talking about it
It's just an "oppressor' argument aka a stupid like anti white/capitalism/usa/the west
The usual liberal nonsense
There's nothing with any basis behind it to discuss -
This. It has nothing to do with the merits of events - it's just a proxy for hating America and white people.Pitchfork51 said:It's because anyone who sides with a bunch of inbred barbaric zealot terrorists is hopeless
So there's no point of talking about it
It's just an "oppressor' argument aka a stupid like anti white/capitalism/usa/the west
The usual liberal nonsense
There's nothing with any basis behind it to discuss
As usual, the conclusion is contrived and rationale is either backfilled or ignored altogether -
It is quite surprising how many people are glossing over the Hamas attack and going straight to Jew hating. It is truly incredible.
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I was told that it was the MAGA Trump supporters who were the anti-semite Jew Haters. The most surprising thing is that a lot of American Jews and dems seem surprised about all the Jew hate on the left. You have to have a mello like view of who working at the US State Department and all the America and Jew Haters that are entrenched in a higher education institutions. All the Land for Peace that was espoused for decades after the 1967 war. Israel gave up the land and then got their reward for appeasement. Gaza wasn't occupied on October 7. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.jecornel said:It is quite surprising how many people are glossing over the Hamas attack and going straight to Jew hating. It is truly incredible.
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When do the Ivy League colleges start protesting Hillary for her comments on the View.
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There's not much to say other than glass the place.Pitchfork51 said:It's because anyone who sides with a bunch of inbred barbaric zealot terrorists is hopeless
So there's no point of talking about it
It's just an "oppressor' argument aka a stupid like anti white/capitalism/usa/the west
The usual liberal nonsense
There's nothing with any basis behind it to discuss -
China unironically has the right idea.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's not much to say other than glass the place.Pitchfork51 said:It's because anyone who sides with a bunch of inbred barbaric zealot terrorists is hopeless
So there's no point of talking about it
It's just an "oppressor' argument aka a stupid like anti white/capitalism/usa/the west
The usual liberal nonsense
There's nothing with any basis behind it to discuss
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And the Islamic world doesn't say shit about it. His back to the point, they only understand force.Pitchfork51 said:
China unironically has the right idea.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's not much to say other than glass the place.Pitchfork51 said:It's because anyone who sides with a bunch of inbred barbaric zealot terrorists is hopeless
So there's no point of talking about it
It's just an "oppressor' argument aka a stupid like anti white/capitalism/usa/the west
The usual liberal nonsense
There's nothing with any basis behind it to discuss -
There is only one issue here and it is the extermination of the Jews. If you have ever done any travel with lengthy stays in particular locations, you know that a good many Muslims hope for the extermination of Jews. This is not about Israel, it never has been. The Palestinian history doesn't give them a "right" to any land let alone Israel. Neighboring countries want nothing to do with Palestinians. They refuse them entry but they certainly support the violence heaped upon Israel and its citizens.
The fact that we as a country have allowed so many Jew hating muslims to settle here is alarming. It is hard to believe that there are 8 open Jew haters elected to congress and supported by the entire democrat party. England should be really alarmed but their idiot leadership just continues to let this happen. I don't even recognize that country anymore. Everywhere you go you see violent muslims. Our friend's family owns an old world hotel right downtown in London. They claim that it is not safe anymore due to the radical muslims running around dominating the landscape and they resent their politicians for putting them in this position.
This country (and others) need to expel foreign muslims before it is too late. We also need to close our borders (duh), stop electing America hating politicians, have a plan for taking over the far left America hating universities, libraries and local and state governments and kick students out of school if they participate in hate marches. There is no place for that in this country.
That bitch from Germany forced many European countries to take in muslims. Either she is the devil or too stupid to have foresight at the damage she was about to do.
I see way too many similarities to the racists black hating riots of our past to these students on our campuses.
Its time to get tough or watch our way and quality of life continue to erode.
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It's only about killing the Jews. Palestinians have turned down 5 offers for their own country but wouldn't accept any unless they also got the Jews country.
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Research assignment....
What is the "Everlasting hatred" ?
and who are the Edomites?
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Honestly, that. I find it shocking myself. I've seen this and encountered it IRL conversations. One guy said to me when discussing this film, https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/hollywood-screening-bearing-witness-hamas-israel-attack-1235642773/ :jecornel said:It is quite surprising how many people are glossing over the Hamas attack and going straight to Jew hating. It is truly incredible.
"Isn't it interesting that Israel showed this in Hollywood. Maybe it will help with its PR campaign."
He literally said that out loud in the HQ offices of a Fortune 500 company, and also mentioned something about using its [Israel's] Hollywood connections for money to finance its campaign against the Palestinians. He didn't whisper it; he said it out loud, just like the ladies say "just another white guy in power" every day with a full expectation, not of impunity, but of acceptance as normal, every day speech.
Feels like last week someone would have at least pointed out to this guy that his comments involved trading in Jew tropes, which I did point out. And he didn't get it. He's about 20 years younger than am I, and honestly I don't think he knows that notions of Jews peddling influence for control and money, particularly in Hollywood, is a bit of an obvious trope for that group. Clueless.
