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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,837 Founders Club
    WoolleyDoog said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Nix could play 15 to 20 years in the NFL as a starter or back up if he wasn't 35 years old

    Look at Geno.

    I've doubted Nix a lot but he's showing well this year, especially without having to be much of a runner. Seems like a high floor but also low ceiling guy. Someone gave a Derek Carr comparison which seems fair. Browning isn't fair. Nix on UW in 2016-18 is special, especially if he got fucking five years to start. He also seems like he's going to work hard on his game till he retires.

    Penix to me seems very low floor but high ceiling. A team which can protect him with decent receivers and he could be incredible.

    Williams is infinite ceiling to me. No question take him as the first QB. I get the hero ball stuff but as someone said if you're team isn't awful he should be fine.

    Maye seems like a guy who is in every draft who just doesn't pop at anything to me but has all the boxes checked off and you need something that makes you special at QB.
    He’s going to a shitty organization considering the Bears and Cardinals own the first 3 picks.
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  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,850 Founders Club
    edited November 2023
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Nix could play 15 to 20 years in the NFL as a starter or back up if he wasn't 35 years old

    Look at Geno.

    I've doubted Nix a lot but he's showing well this year, especially without having to be much of a runner. Seems like a high floor but also low ceiling guy. Someone gave a Derek Carr comparison which seems fair. Browning isn't fair. Nix on UW in 2016-18 is special, especially if he got fucking five years to start. He also seems like he's going to work hard on his game till he retires.

    Penix to me seems very low floor but high ceiling. A team which can protect him with decent receivers and he could be incredible.

    Williams is infinite ceiling to me. No question take him as the first QB. I get the hero ball stuff but as someone said if you're team isn't awful he should be fine.

    Maye seems like a guy who is in every draft who just doesn't pop at anything to me but has all the boxes checked off and you need something that makes you special at QB.
    He’s going to a shitty organization considering the Bears and Cardinals own the first 3 picks.
    That's why he's grad transferring to UW to finish his career, get cash, then see who is picking at the top of the 2025 draft.
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,751 Standard Supporter
    I'm not going to talk shit about Caleb Williams until after this weekend.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,818
    dtd said:

    I'm not going to talk shit about Caleb Williams until after this weekend.

    Same. He is really good.

    I don't really care about the painted nails, crying after the game, etc.

    Pink tutus and all that. Kid can play and has to deal with one of the worst D1 defenses I've ever seen.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    chuck said:

    I wouldn't take a QB with the first pick. As a matter of fact I'd almost never use the first pick as anything but trade bait.

    But Williams is the easy choice for first QB. Hero ball, rat ball...whatever it is...is what works.

    Penix is a rare talent throwing the ball. Plenty of teams probably want him there to see if it translates but I don't see anyone risking a pick higher than 4th round or so on him.

    Christ chuck, go ahead and sit this one out. Penix is being widely projected as a top half of the first round guy. The question has now shifted to whether he's the #1 overall pick (I highly doubt it), yet here you are droning on about the 4th round.
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  • SkipBoyd
    SkipBoyd Member Posts: 403
    greenblood said:

    Nix isn’t the same QB he was two eleven years ago.

    Fixed it for you.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,360
    edited November 2023
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    chuck said:

    I wouldn't take a QB with the first pick. As a matter of fact I'd almost never use the first pick as anything but trade bait.

    But Williams is the easy choice for first QB. Hero ball, rat ball...whatever it is...is what works.

    Penix is a rare talent throwing the ball. Plenty of teams probably want him there to see if it translates but I don't see anyone risking a pick higher than 4th round or so on him.

    Christ chuck, go ahead and sit this one out. Penix is being widely projected as a top half of the first round guy. The question has now shifted to whether he's the #1 overall pick (I highly doubt it), yet here you are droning on about the 4th round.
    I think ppl are underestimating his health issues. With a clean bill of health he is a top half of the 1st round at worst.

    I would suspect his health drops him to day two.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    AtomicDawg said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    chuck said:

    I wouldn't take a QB with the first pick. As a matter of fact I'd almost never use the first pick as anything but trade bait.

    But Williams is the easy choice for first QB. Hero ball, rat ball...whatever it is...is what works.

    Penix is a rare talent throwing the ball. Plenty of teams probably want him there to see if it translates but I don't see anyone risking a pick higher than 4th round or so on him.

    Christ chuck, go ahead and sit this one out. Penix is being widely projected as a top half of the first round guy. The question has now shifted to whether he's the #1 overall pick (I highly doubt it), yet here you are droning on about the 4th round.
    I think ppl are underestimating his health issues. With a clean bill of health he is a top half of the 1st round at worst.

    I would suspect his health drops him to day two.
    Not a chance in hell. He could have AIDS and a desperate team picking in the 20s would absolutely take a flier.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,825 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2023
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    chuck said:

    I wouldn't take a QB with the first pick. As a matter of fact I'd almost never use the first pick as anything but trade bait.

    But Williams is the easy choice for first QB. Hero ball, rat ball...whatever it is...is what works.

    Penix is a rare talent throwing the ball. Plenty of teams probably want him there to see if it translates but I don't see anyone risking a pick higher than 4th round or so on him.

    Christ chuck, go ahead and sit this one out. Penix is being widely projected as a top half of the first round guy. The question has now shifted to whether he's the #1 overall pick (I highly doubt it), yet here you are droning on about the 4th round.
    Jesus you're a combative bastard. This isn't life or death here pal. I don't try to make a living queefing stuff like this out.

    I think Penix is viewed as fragile and a high injury risk. I don't think he'll even go in the early rounds because of it. I'd love to be wrong.
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  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,888
    NFL GMs are a desperate bunch. The pressure is on from all sides, and they know they can't win anything without a good QB. Every year, we see QBs who shouldn't be drafted early who are. 2024 will be no different. Penix will be taken in round 1.

    Cook it.
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