Black eye for Oregon
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Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?SFGbob said:
Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation. Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.RaceBannon said:Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida
And taking that federal covid cash
Doesn't matter he's toast anyway
Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.
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The problem for you is that almost no one buys any of the bullshit Ron pitches because they don't trust him and he's disingenuousSFGbob said:
Naaah, the Trump isn't responsible for the bills he signs is a whole new take. I like you, you know that, but you're embarrassing yourself. If we were friends who saw each other on a regular basis we'd be in the "we can't discuss politics at all" zone.RaceBannon said:
Blah blah blahSFGbob said:
Seriously, it's just a personality cult with you at this point. Trump's not responsible for the legislation he signs is about as pathetic a take I can come up with.RaceBannon said:I've already pulled the starters Bob
Good luck the rest of the way
6 years going on 7
You don't need to discuss it with me
I've been accused of everything under the sun because I vote for Trump. I'm bored with it
Trump is beating everyone. Maybe it's a you problem
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Shut down my business you better have a fucking checkBob_C said:
He was responsible for giving the people what they wanted and craved. Only Noem and Massie didn’t support it.SFGbob said:
Naaah, the Trump isn't responsible for the bills he signs is a whole new take. I like you, you know that, but you're embarrassing yourself. If we were friends who saw each other on a regular basis we'd be in the "we can't discuss politics at all" zone.RaceBannon said:
Blah blah blahSFGbob said:
Seriously, it's just a personality cult with you at this point. Trump's not responsible for the legislation he signs is about as pathetic a take I can come up with.RaceBannon said:I've already pulled the starters Bob
Good luck the rest of the way
6 years going on 7
States locked it down and lined up for the money from the feds. Including DeSantis
Inflation is on Biden. -
Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?SFGbob said:
Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation. Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.RaceBannon said:Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida
And taking that federal covid cash
Doesn't matter he's toast anyway
Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake. -
SFGbob said:
Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?SFGbob said:
Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation. Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.RaceBannon said:Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida
And taking that federal covid cash
Doesn't matter he's toast anyway
Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.
You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.RaceBannon said:Key endorsement for DeSantis
Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.
Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?
Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk? -
Signed legislation that was veto proof
Got him this time -
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/morning-consult-poll-donald-trump-gop/2023/10/03/id/1136792/
Not only do potential GOP primary voters side with Trump by 48 points over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the rest of the field, but 61% say Trump has the best chance of beating President Joe Biden.
That matches his overall support in the GOP primary field, according to the poll:
Trump 61%
DeSantis 13%
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley 7%
Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy 7%
Former Vice President Mike Pence 5%
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie 3%
Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., 1%
North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum 1%
Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson 0%
Trump outperforms DeSantis against Biden, too, drawing 4 more points in support their head-to-heads. DeSantis trails Biden by 3 points 42%-39%. -
RaceBannon said:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/morning-consult-poll-donald-trump-gop/2023/10/03/id/1136792/
Not only do potential GOP primary voters side with Trump by 48 points over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the rest of the field, but 61% say Trump has the best chance of beating President Joe Biden.
That matches his overall support in the GOP primary field, according to the poll:
Trump 61%
DeSantis 13%
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley 7%
Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy 7%
Former Vice President Mike Pence 5%
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie 3%
Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., 1%
North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum 1%
Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson 0%
Trump outperforms DeSantis against Biden, too, drawing 4 more points in support their head-to-heads. DeSantis trails Biden by 3 points 42%-39%.
Trump never threatened a veto he fully supported the bill. Got any other pathetic deflections? -
Does DeSantis have any other pathetic issues?
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Agreed it was terrible. Only a few libertarian types were against it in the moment. It's revisionist history to suggest otherwise. The people wanted it.SFGbob said:RaceBannon said:https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/morning-consult-poll-donald-trump-gop/2023/10/03/id/1136792/
Not only do potential GOP primary voters side with Trump by 48 points over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the rest of the field, but 61% say Trump has the best chance of beating President Joe Biden.
That matches his overall support in the GOP primary field, according to the poll:
Trump 61%
DeSantis 13%
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley 7%
Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy 7%
Former Vice President Mike Pence 5%
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie 3%
Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., 1%
North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum 1%
Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson 0%
Trump outperforms DeSantis against Biden, too, drawing 4 more points in support their head-to-heads. DeSantis trails Biden by 3 points 42%-39%.
Trump never threatened a veto he fully supported the bill. Got any other pathetic deflections? -
The only people revising history are the people claiming that Trump only signed it due to it being passed by a Veto proof majority and that a President isn't responsible for legislation that he signs.Bob_C said:
Agreed it was terrible. Only a few libertarian types were against it in the moment. It's revisionist history to suggest otherwise. The people wanted it.SFGbob said:RaceBannon said:https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/morning-consult-poll-donald-trump-gop/2023/10/03/id/1136792/
Not only do potential GOP primary voters side with Trump by 48 points over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the rest of the field, but 61% say Trump has the best chance of beating President Joe Biden.
That matches his overall support in the GOP primary field, according to the poll:
Trump 61%
DeSantis 13%
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley 7%
Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy 7%
Former Vice President Mike Pence 5%
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie 3%
Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., 1%
North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum 1%
Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson 0%
Trump outperforms DeSantis against Biden, too, drawing 4 more points in support their head-to-heads. DeSantis trails Biden by 3 points 42%-39%.
Trump never threatened a veto he fully supported the bill. Got any other pathetic deflections? -
Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.UW_Doog_Bot said:SFGbob said:
Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?SFGbob said:
Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation. Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.RaceBannon said:Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida
And taking that federal covid cash
Doesn't matter he's toast anyway
Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.
You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.RaceBannon said:Key endorsement for DeSantis
Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.
Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?
Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk? -
True. I blame him for his part. He would have lost in a landslide had he been against it.SFGbob said:
The only people revising history are the people claiming that Trump only signed it due to it being passed by a Veto proof majority and that a President isn't responsible for legislation that he signs.Bob_C said:
Agreed it was terrible. Only a few libertarian types were against it in the moment. It's revisionist history to suggest otherwise. The people wanted it.SFGbob said:RaceBannon said:https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/morning-consult-poll-donald-trump-gop/2023/10/03/id/1136792/
Not only do potential GOP primary voters side with Trump by 48 points over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the rest of the field, but 61% say Trump has the best chance of beating President Joe Biden.
That matches his overall support in the GOP primary field, according to the poll:
Trump 61%
DeSantis 13%
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley 7%
Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy 7%
Former Vice President Mike Pence 5%
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie 3%
Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., 1%
North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum 1%
Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson 0%
Trump outperforms DeSantis against Biden, too, drawing 4 more points in support their head-to-heads. DeSantis trails Biden by 3 points 42%-39%.
Trump never threatened a veto he fully supported the bill. Got any other pathetic deflections?
There is also zero evidence that Ron was against the CARES act in the moment. He can pretend otherwise, but there aren't any receipts.
Only Massie has the receipts.
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I would submit that the reason Trump is doing so much better with independent voters and women is twofold
Biden and the democrats are insane
Trump actually did take covid seriously and tried to avoid crashing the economy.
If Trump is responsible for inflation he's also responsible for the most jobs created in history as in the people going back to work that Biden takes credit for. Yes it's bullshit but still
If this has nothing to do with DeSantis who is desperately trying to find an issue then what does it have to do with?
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Sure it caused inflation....and kept us from further deflation.SFGbob said:
Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.UW_Doog_Bot said:SFGbob said:
Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?SFGbob said:
Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation. Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.RaceBannon said:Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida
And taking that federal covid cash
Doesn't matter he's toast anyway
Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.
You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.RaceBannon said:Key endorsement for DeSantis
Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.
Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?
Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk?
Then Biden took something around 2% inflation which would have been healthy and quadrupled it.
Something something straw man. -
Why do you blame Biden for all the inflation?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure it caused inflation....and kept us from further deflation.SFGbob said:
Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.UW_Doog_Bot said:SFGbob said:
Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?SFGbob said:
Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation. Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.RaceBannon said:Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida
And taking that federal covid cash
Doesn't matter he's toast anyway
Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.
You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.RaceBannon said:Key endorsement for DeSantis
Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.
Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?
Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk?
Then Biden took something around 2% inflation which would have been healthy and quadrupled it.
Something something straw man.
That's a straw man. Thought I'd help you out since you appear to be confused.
Trump's spending, which was outrageous, is also to blame for the current rates of inflation. That fact has nothing to do with DeSantis. -
I blame Biden's spending for the majority of inflation bc you know, that's the cause for the majority of it.SFGbob said:
Why do you blame Biden for all the inflation?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure it caused inflation....and kept us from further deflation.SFGbob said:
Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.UW_Doog_Bot said:SFGbob said:
Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?SFGbob said:
Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation. Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.RaceBannon said:Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida
And taking that federal covid cash
Doesn't matter he's toast anyway
Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.
You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.RaceBannon said:Key endorsement for DeSantis
Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.
Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?
Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk?
Then Biden took something around 2% inflation which would have been healthy and quadrupled it.
Something something straw man.
That's a straw man. Thought I'd help you out since you appear to be confused.
Trump's spending, which was outrageous, is also to blame for the current rates of inflation. That fact has nothing to do with DeSantis.
Keep playing games with binary arguments I guess. -
To be fair, Boblet has never figured out what a "strawman" is, or where it comes from, nor has ever taken a philosophy/logic class in college.SFGbob said:
Why do you blame Biden for all the inflation?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure it caused inflation....and kept us from further deflation.SFGbob said:
Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.UW_Doog_Bot said:SFGbob said:
Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?SFGbob said:
Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation. Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.RaceBannon said:Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida
And taking that federal covid cash
Doesn't matter he's toast anyway
Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.
You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.RaceBannon said:Key endorsement for DeSantis
Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.
Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?
Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk?
Then Biden took something around 2% inflation which would have been healthy and quadrupled it.
Something something straw man.
That's a straw man. Thought I'd help you out since you appear to be confused.
Trump's spending, which was outrageous, is also to blame for the current rates of inflation. That fact has nothing to do with DeSantis.
That's why he spams the term constantly when he's upset.
