Top Tight Ends of the Pac-10/12 Era

dnc · October 2023

WoolleyDoog said:

chuck said:

WoolleyDoog said:
ASJ is a stats guy. He was definitely good yet I can't remember him doing much in big games at big moments. These lists are prone to overrating guys like that. In defense, I think Gronk barely played like 1.5 seasons at Arizona healthy.
I get the ASJ hate I think. I think it's a little over the top too. He didn't seem to be a hard worker and had discipline issues off the field. OTOH he was pretty damn good as a receiver and blocker. There were games where running behind him was the only way Sark could consistently move the ball.

As far as showing up in big games goes, I question whether he ever played in one.
ASJ was good. I'd crawl through a sewer line to get him on last year and this year's teams. A healthy Bryant might have been even better. Odd to say given he's only been off the team for a few years but he is a player who feels like he's built for the current game.

Bryant's hands were low key unreliable.

chuck · October 2023

dnc said:

WoolleyDoog said:

chuck said:

WoolleyDoog said:
ASJ is a stats guy. He was definitely good yet I can't remember him doing much in big games at big moments. These lists are prone to overrating guys like that. In defense, I think Gronk barely played like 1.5 seasons at Arizona healthy.
I get the ASJ hate I think. I think it's a little over the top too. He didn't seem to be a hard worker and had discipline issues off the field. OTOH he was pretty damn good as a receiver and blocker. There were games where running behind him was the only way Sark could consistently move the ball.

As far as showing up in big games goes, I question whether he ever played in one.
ASJ was good. I'd crawl through a sewer line to get him on last year and this year's teams. A healthy Bryant might have been even better. Odd to say given he's only been off the team for a few years but he is a player who feels like he's built for the current game.
Bryant's hands were low key unreliable.

Yeah I seem to remember them looking like glue a few times and like bricks a few times.

Rapeculturedawg · October 2023

No Kevario Middleton?!

dnc · October 2023

chuck said:

dnc said:

WoolleyDoog said:

chuck said:

WoolleyDoog said:
ASJ is a stats guy. He was definitely good yet I can't remember him doing much in big games at big moments. These lists are prone to overrating guys like that. In defense, I think Gronk barely played like 1.5 seasons at Arizona healthy.
I get the ASJ hate I think. I think it's a little over the top too. He didn't seem to be a hard worker and had discipline issues off the field. OTOH he was pretty damn good as a receiver and blocker. There were games where running behind him was the only way Sark could consistently move the ball.

As far as showing up in big games goes, I question whether he ever played in one.
ASJ was good. I'd crawl through a sewer line to get him on last year and this year's teams. A healthy Bryant might have been even better. Odd to say given he's only been off the team for a few years but he is a player who feels like he's built for the current game.
Bryant's hands were low key unreliable.
Yeah I seem to remember them looking like glue a few times and like bricks a few times.

Yep precisely

TheHB · October 2023

Really thought this was gonna be a different kind of thread … maybe even wam worthy.

AtomicDawg · October 2023

chuck said:

WoolleyDoog said:
ASJ is a stats guy. He was definitely good yet I can't remember him doing much in big games at big moments. These lists are prone to overrating guys like that. In defense, I think Gronk barely played like 1.5 seasons at Arizona healthy.
I get the ASJ hate I think. I think it's a little over the top too. He didn't seem to be a hard worker and had discipline issues off the field. OTOH he was pretty damn good as a receiver and blocker. There were games where running behind him was the only way Sark could consistently move the ball.

As far as showing up in big games goes, I question whether he ever played in one.

I remember yelling when he dropped the 3rd down conversion @stanford which led to the Kevin smith trapped non catch in sarks "True Emotions on the Field" bowl on the farm. Thanks for making me remember.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover · October 2023

DerekJohnson said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:
Thanks, Thanker-of-Taft!

A twisted cry for help?

More or less twisted than Damones last 81 attempts to come back?

RoadDawg55 · October 2023

chuck said:

WoolleyDoog said:
ASJ is a stats guy. He was definitely good yet I can't remember him doing much in big games at big moments. These lists are prone to overrating guys like that. In defense, I think Gronk barely played like 1.5 seasons at Arizona healthy.
I get the ASJ hate I think. I think it's a little over the top too. He didn't seem to be a hard worker and had discipline issues off the field. OTOH he was pretty damn good as a receiver and blocker. There were games where running behind him was the only way Sark could consistently move the ball.

As far as showing up in big games goes, I question whether he ever played in one.

It’s kind of ridiculous to say he didn’t play well in big games. He was really good. It’s too bad he didn’t work as hard as he could, likely because he’s an alcoholic.