OT: Seahawks Special Teams

IMALOSER_ said:

Since I was discussing the 2011 season and stated two were respectable and one was not great. I assumed you would know that stating it was a mixed bag was discussing the 2011 season.

The top of the page headline states 2011 Special Teams Rankings.

I don't have a problem giving you a thumbs down each time you misrepresent what I have stated.

Disagree. You were the first guy in this thread to mention 2011 specifically.

You attempted to answer this question:
When was the last time the Huskies had a good special teams, let alone great?

Even you acknowledged that the special teams in 2011 were a mixed bag, not good.

HillsboroDuck said:

IMALOSER_ said:

2011 Special Teams Rankings - Pac-12

Kick Off Return - #3
Kick Off Coverage - #10
Net Punting - #2
Punt Return - #6

Not exactly great being the #10 Kick off coverage team, but the rest was respectable. How hard is it to find a guy that can kick the ball into the endzone?

2012 was a particularly crappy Special Teams performance, all around. 2010 Stats are currently not available on Pac-12 site.

Looks like a mixed bag.

Those rankings in aggregate break down to 5.25th out of 12th. That's above average I guess, but not what I would consider good. Certainly not great.

Just curious how you would rate the coaching of a team that had the following special teams rankings. Would it be awful, bad, good or great coaching? Just trying to get a feel for what you think is good, etc?

2012 Pac-12 Special Teams Rankings - Team A

Kick Off Return - #10
Kick off Coverage - #10
Net Punting - #9
Punt Return - #1

HillsboroDuck said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

IMALOSER_ said:

HillsboroDuck said:

IMALOSER_ said:

2011 Special Teams Rankings - Pac-12

Kick Off Return - #3
Kick Off Coverage - #10
Net Punting - #2
Punt Return - #6

Not exactly great being the #10 Kick off coverage team, but the rest was respectable. How hard is it to find a guy that can kick the ball into the endzone?

2012 was a particularly crappy Special Teams performance, all around. 2010 Stats are currently not available on Pac-12 site.

Looks like a mixed bag.

Those rankings in aggregate break down to 5.25th out of 12th. That's above average I guess, but not what I would consider good. Certainly not great.

Just curious how you would rate the coaching of a team that had the following special teams rankings. Would it be awful, bad, good or great coaching? Just trying to get a feel for what you think is good, etc?

2012 Pac-12 Special Teams Rankings - Team A

Kick Off Return - #10
Kick off Coverage - #10
Net Punting - #9
Punt Return - #1

That's pretty bad. If it's Chip Kelly's special teams, I'll also point out that missed field goals cost him dearly in 2011 and 2012.

If you're really, really good in the other two phases, you can overcome bad special teams.

Regardless of which coach it is, you should mention his other seasons too so that we don't think you are cherrypicking data.

It's pretty explainable really - they didn't return many kicks, but they did kick off a million times, they didn't punt often, but they did return a bunch of punts. I'm assuming Loser is using total KO returns and total KO coverage, which is pretty meaningless when you are kicking off at least 5 times a game more than your opponents. It's possible the punting numbers are averaged, in which case the punting is bad, no excuses.

They are all averages. Who in the fuck would do rankings by total yards for Kick offs? Nice spin.

He_Needs_More_Time said:

IMALOSER is the king of cherrypicking stats/using misleading stats to make whatever stupid point he can make.

Just like when talking about Sark's special teams he points the one year where Sark was decent.

With the Seahawks he points out one game out of 18 to make it seem like the Seahawks are devoted to running the ball.

You mean when I responded to a poster that asked when the last time the Huskies had good, not great special team play? Why the fuck would I post seasons that they sucked to answer the question? Are you really a fucktard or do you just play one on the interwebs?

The poster said the Seahawks were dedicated to running to set up the pass. I went back and looked at their last/most important game of the year and they had a 2/1 pass/run ratio in the first half. If you want to break down the first half of all the Seahawk games......have fun.