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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
  • DawgDaze71
    DawgDaze71 Member Posts: 708
    I wasn't big on Johnson as a runner based on his Miss St footage. I saw an average back that had good hands.

    Nixon has a burst but he's like the Beavs Damien Martinez ... in that you can't give him the rock 20+ a game all season like you would with a War Daddy.

    I'm interested in seeing Tybo and more Newton. Week 1 had a lot of bad fumbles (Looking at you Nebraska) so lets phase Tybo during game that's not so critical.

    What I do like about Nixon and Johnson is their pass catching and I think that's a talent we need. If they load the box and don't account for the RB in space I have confidence that both will catch the pigskin with regularity.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,095 Founders Club
    godawgst said:

    I'm old enough to remember how bad the running game was after week 1 last year. Couldn't convert a 3rd and 1 to save their lives.

    Lack of running game and a corner who can’t cover or tackle will cost this team 2-3 wins
    Corner play was way better than last year. The entire defense was basically helpless at the beginning of 2022.

    At RB they really need somebody who can make the necessary short yards. Cam Davis scored a lot of TDs last year in that role.
    Corner play was surprise highlight of day today. Guys were on receivers and getting hands in way. Dom and Asa are who we thought they were as Safeties. LB's are jags. DT's will be able to do what's asked of them.

    Edge play was not good to put it mildly, and running game between tackles was abysmal just as it was most of last year.

    Yeah, defense looked way worse last year in the opener. Shitty angles and sloppy tackling. They got better as the season went on.

    I saw a lot less of that this year. They looked like the equivalent of week 6 or so last year. Corners made some real plays.

    LB's were forgettable.

    Defensive line was playing contain all day so hard to judge. Hopefully they'll look a lot better against Tulsa. If they don't then I'll start to worry.

    Atbs Penix is amazing. The defense only needs to be opportunistic not great.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,726 Founders Club

    godawgst said:

    I'm old enough to remember how bad the running game was after week 1 last year. Couldn't convert a 3rd and 1 to save their lives.

    Lack of running game and a corner who can’t cover or tackle will cost this team 2-3 wins
    Corner play was way better than last year. The entire defense was basically helpless at the beginning of 2022.

    At RB they really need somebody who can make the necessary short yards. Cam Davis scored a lot of TDs last year in that role.
    Corner play was surprise highlight of day today. Guys were on receivers and getting hands in way. Dom and Asa are who we thought they were as Safeties. LB's are jags. DT's will be able to do what's asked of them.

    Edge play was not good to put it mildly, and running game between tackles was abysmal just as it was most of last year.

    Yeah, defense looked way worse last year in the opener. Shitty angles and sloppy tackling. They got better as the season went on.

    I saw a lot less of that this year. They looked like the equivalent of week 6 or so last year. Corners made some real plays.

    LB's were forgettable.

    Defensive line was playing contain all day so hard to judge. Hopefully they'll look a lot better against Tulsa. If they don't then I'll start to worry.

    Atbs Penix is amazing. The defense only needs to be opportunistic not great.
    Couple turnovers and not giving up 90% 3rd down conversions makes all the difference.

    With the new clock rules they have to find a way to get off the field during conference play in the same way they did yesterday. A lot of that was bailed out by bad receivers/drops but we were forcing their QB to get the ball out quick.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,095 Founders Club
    haie said:

    godawgst said:

    I'm old enough to remember how bad the running game was after week 1 last year. Couldn't convert a 3rd and 1 to save their lives.

    Lack of running game and a corner who can’t cover or tackle will cost this team 2-3 wins
    Corner play was way better than last year. The entire defense was basically helpless at the beginning of 2022.

    At RB they really need somebody who can make the necessary short yards. Cam Davis scored a lot of TDs last year in that role.
    Corner play was surprise highlight of day today. Guys were on receivers and getting hands in way. Dom and Asa are who we thought they were as Safeties. LB's are jags. DT's will be able to do what's asked of them.

    Edge play was not good to put it mildly, and running game between tackles was abysmal just as it was most of last year.

    Yeah, defense looked way worse last year in the opener. Shitty angles and sloppy tackling. They got better as the season went on.

    I saw a lot less of that this year. They looked like the equivalent of week 6 or so last year. Corners made some real plays.

    LB's were forgettable.

    Defensive line was playing contain all day so hard to judge. Hopefully they'll look a lot better against Tulsa. If they don't then I'll start to worry.

    Atbs Penix is amazing. The defense only needs to be opportunistic not great.
    Couple turnovers and not giving up 90% 3rd down conversions makes all the difference.

    With the new clock rules they have to find a way to get off the field during conference play in the same way they did yesterday. A lot of that was bailed out by bad receivers/drops but we were forcing their QB to get the ball out quick.
    Some of that was also the receivers hearing footsteps after a few good hits. Nothing like the Perermen D but good enough for effect.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    haie said:

    godawgst said:

    I'm old enough to remember how bad the running game was after week 1 last year. Couldn't convert a 3rd and 1 to save their lives.

    Lack of running game and a corner who can’t cover or tackle will cost this team 2-3 wins
    Corner play was way better than last year. The entire defense was basically helpless at the beginning of 2022.

    At RB they really need somebody who can make the necessary short yards. Cam Davis scored a lot of TDs last year in that role.
    Corner play was surprise highlight of day today. Guys were on receivers and getting hands in way. Dom and Asa are who we thought they were as Safeties. LB's are jags. DT's will be able to do what's asked of them.

    Edge play was not good to put it mildly, and running game between tackles was abysmal just as it was most of last year.

    Yeah, defense looked way worse last year in the opener. Shitty angles and sloppy tackling. They got better as the season went on.

    I saw a lot less of that this year. They looked like the equivalent of week 6 or so last year. Corners made some real plays.

    LB's were forgettable.

    Defensive line was playing contain all day so hard to judge. Hopefully they'll look a lot better against Tulsa. If they don't then I'll start to worry.

    Atbs Penix is amazing. The defense only needs to be opportunistic not great.
    Couple turnovers and not giving up 90% 3rd down conversions makes all the difference.

    With the new clock rules they have to find a way to get off the field during conference play in the same way they did yesterday. A lot of that was bailed out by bad receivers/drops but we were forcing their QB to get the ball out quick.
    The db's rarely put their hands on balls at all last year. Yesterday was way better. Many TD's didn't even have the db's show up in the screen.

    That said I still don't trust the defense. But it was better.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,726 Founders Club

    haie said:

    godawgst said:

    I'm old enough to remember how bad the running game was after week 1 last year. Couldn't convert a 3rd and 1 to save their lives.

    Lack of running game and a corner who can’t cover or tackle will cost this team 2-3 wins
    Corner play was way better than last year. The entire defense was basically helpless at the beginning of 2022.

    At RB they really need somebody who can make the necessary short yards. Cam Davis scored a lot of TDs last year in that role.
    Corner play was surprise highlight of day today. Guys were on receivers and getting hands in way. Dom and Asa are who we thought they were as Safeties. LB's are jags. DT's will be able to do what's asked of them.

    Edge play was not good to put it mildly, and running game between tackles was abysmal just as it was most of last year.

    Yeah, defense looked way worse last year in the opener. Shitty angles and sloppy tackling. They got better as the season went on.

    I saw a lot less of that this year. They looked like the equivalent of week 6 or so last year. Corners made some real plays.

    LB's were forgettable.

    Defensive line was playing contain all day so hard to judge. Hopefully they'll look a lot better against Tulsa. If they don't then I'll start to worry.

    Atbs Penix is amazing. The defense only needs to be opportunistic not great.
    Couple turnovers and not giving up 90% 3rd down conversions makes all the difference.

    With the new clock rules they have to find a way to get off the field during conference play in the same way they did yesterday. A lot of that was bailed out by bad receivers/drops but we were forcing their QB to get the ball out quick.
    The db's rarely put their hands on balls at all last year. Yesterday was way better. Many TD's didn't even have the db's show up in the screen.

    That said I still don't trust the defense. But it was better.
    Cautious optimism is reasonable.

    Expecting to never have a game like ASU/UCLA is somewhat reasonable.

    Otherwise get rid of Morrell and possibly Inge.

    Although it's still fresh in my mind that they held Texas to a field goal on the road. Muhammad is a god send. We are fucked without him.
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,125 Founders Club
    Johnson's debut reminded me a lot of Giles Jackson's where Jackson was supposed to be a fast guy then looked slower than Montana LBs on kickoffs. The RBs overall looked really good at getting tackled.
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075

    jecornel said:

    Newton returning kicks is truly bizarre.

    The coaches expect RBs that can catch passes and pass block. Not saying Rich can't, so don't twist.
    Fuck that. Corey Dillion was not the greatest receiver unless he was wide open. Pass pro decent. Give Newton the ball up the middle. It really won’t take away from Grubb’s passing game to feed dick the ball 5 times a game and will keep the defense honest. It was criminal underuse of a man playing among boys.
    The thing is, if you bring in a RB for a play... that the opposition knows is only good at running, then you've just given away your play call. See how that works?

  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331

    Dillon Johnson was seen as a big back that had good hands. He didn’t look good, but I really wasn’t expecting much. The coaches said Cam Davis was clearly #1 and it’s not like Cam Davis is a star.

    They have not found a rb worth anything at uw since Ahmed and that's being generous as he was not special, but at least had some specific talents. (I happen to think he's was misused). That was 6 or 7 recruiting cycles ago. This is pathetic.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,318

    Dillon Johnson was seen as a big back that had good hands. He didn’t look good, but I really wasn’t expecting much. The coaches said Cam Davis was clearly #1 and it’s not like Cam Davis is a star.

    They have not found a rb worth anything at uw since Ahmed and that's being generous as he was not special, but at least had some specific talents. (I happen to think he's was misused). That was 6 or 7 recruiting cycles ago. This is pathetic.
    Why do you hate Taulupapa? He had 1112 yards from scrimmage last year (only behind Odunze and ahead of McMillian) and was 2nd for TDs, only behind Davis.

    That's better than any season Ahmed ever had at UW
    I'd rather have Towelpopper but he's definitely the floor of a good RB. He did his job for Deboers offense though so I'm not sure how to balance that
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331

    Dillon Johnson was seen as a big back that had good hands. He didn’t look good, but I really wasn’t expecting much. The coaches said Cam Davis was clearly #1 and it’s not like Cam Davis is a star.

    They have not found a rb worth anything at uw since Ahmed and that's being generous as he was not special, but at least had some specific talents. (I happen to think he's was misused). That was 6 or 7 recruiting cycles ago. This is pathetic.
    Why do you hate Taulupapa? He had 1112 yards from scrimmage last year (only behind Odunze and ahead of McMillian) and was 2nd for TDs, only behind Davis.

    That's better than any season Ahmed ever had at UW
    Because he was not good. There is a reason he is not making an nfl roster. Worthless in short yardage. Doesn't make anyone miss. He was just the best we had. Not his fault. Nothing against the guy but we should have players that are pushing for all conference at that position.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,236 Standard Supporter

    Dillon Johnson was seen as a big back that had good hands. He didn’t look good, but I really wasn’t expecting much. The coaches said Cam Davis was clearly #1 and it’s not like Cam Davis is a star.

    They have not found a rb worth anything at uw since Ahmed and that's being generous as he was not special, but at least had some specific talents. (I happen to think he's was misused). That was 6 or 7 recruiting cycles ago. This is pathetic.
    Why do you hate Taulupapa? He had 1112 yards from scrimmage last year (only behind Odunze and ahead of McMillian) and was 2nd for TDs, only behind Davis.

    That's better than any season Ahmed ever had at UW
    Because he was not good. There is a reason he is not making an nfl roster. Worthless in short yardage. Doesn't make anyone miss. He was just the best we had. Not his fault. Nothing against the guy but we should have players that are pushing for all conference at that position.
    He averaged 6.3 ypc and scored 11 td's on the ground.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763

    Dillon Johnson was seen as a big back that had good hands. He didn’t look good, but I really wasn’t expecting much. The coaches said Cam Davis was clearly #1 and it’s not like Cam Davis is a star.

    They have not found a rb worth anything at uw since Ahmed and that's being generous as he was not special, but at least had some specific talents. (I happen to think he's was misused). That was 6 or 7 recruiting cycles ago. This is pathetic.
    Why do you hate Taulupapa? He had 1112 yards from scrimmage last year (only behind Odunze and ahead of McMillian) and was 2nd for TDs, only behind Davis.

    That's better than any season Ahmed ever had at UW
    Because he was not good. There is a reason he is not making an nfl roster. Worthless in short yardage. Doesn't make anyone miss. He was just the best we had. Not his fault. Nothing against the guy but we should have players that are pushing for all conference at that position.
    Had amazing vision
  • BroadcastingDawg
    BroadcastingDawg Member Posts: 1,519
    It's going to be pretty fucking disappointing if they end up missing on Jason Brown... to Michigan State no less.
  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,222 Standard Supporter
    Maybe Dillon had been dinged up and they weren’t planning to play him much right away…until Cam got hurt🤔

    That being said, play Nixon until Tybo (the future?) takes over🤷‍♂️
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331

    It's going to be pretty fucking disappointing if they end up missing on Jason Brown... to Michigan State no less.

    Jason Brown is not a difference maker. If he was he would be highly recruited.
  • BroadcastingDawg
    BroadcastingDawg Member Posts: 1,519
    edited September 2023

    It's going to be pretty fucking disappointing if they end up missing on Jason Brown... to Michigan State no less.

    Jason Brown is not a difference maker. If he was he would be highly recruited.
    Myles Gaskin was a 3-star recruit who had offers from WSU and UW.

    Was he not a difference maker?

    Don't want to compare the 2... but if those are the parameters.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,209

    Dillon Johnson was seen as a big back that had good hands. He didn’t look good, but I really wasn’t expecting much. The coaches said Cam Davis was clearly #1 and it’s not like Cam Davis is a star.

    They have not found a rb worth anything at uw since Ahmed and that's being generous as he was not special, but at least had some specific talents. (I happen to think he's was misused). That was 6 or 7 recruiting cycles ago. This is pathetic.
    Why do you hate Taulupapa? He had 1112 yards from scrimmage last year (only behind Odunze and ahead of McMillian) and was 2nd for TDs, only behind Davis.

    That's better than any season Ahmed ever had at UW
    Papa was the bare minimum for a starting FBS RB in that he could get what was blocked for him, but not create anything on his own. This year we don't even have that.
    Disagree

    End of the year Papa was a badass who made Texas defenders look like they were swimming in molasses. Dude was a baller.

    He had some bad games at the beginning of the year though, don't twist. I wanted him tarmaced after the UCLA game.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,679 Swaye's Wigwam
    The endless debate about who has been the best or could be productive just illustrates why I'm not worried at all. This offense will spoon-feed production for a couple of the guys we have. Papa was not a big time talent and was productive as fuck in this offense. Cam Davis was too. I think there are 4-5 guys on the roster who can match what they did.

    I'd still rather have Gaskin or Sankey at UW now. Don't twist. Either of those guys would be unfair.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331

    It's going to be pretty fucking disappointing if they end up missing on Jason Brown... to Michigan State no less.

    Jason Brown is not a difference maker. If he was he would be highly recruited.
    Myles Gaskin was a 3-star recruit who had offers from WSU and UW.

    Was he not a difference maker?

    Don't want to compare the 2... but if those are the parameters.
    He is highly rated but nobody seems to care and rightfully so. Comment was in reference to that (5 star recruit with minimal interest from anyone of note including uw). Uw went hard after rb's that are ranked way lower than him and were told no thanks. They evaluated other guys much higher and here we are.

    They were always going hard after Gaskin because they wanted him regardless of ranking or interest from other schools. Just like they went hard after Tybo from the beginning.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,103

    It's going to be pretty fucking disappointing if they end up missing on Jason Brown... to Michigan State no less.

    Jason Brown is not a difference maker. If he was he would be highly recruited.
    Myles Gaskin was a 3-star recruit who had offers from WSU and UW.

    Was he not a difference maker?

    Don't want to compare the 2... but if those are the parameters.
    He is highly rated but nobody seems to care and rightfully so. Comment was in reference to that (5 star recruit with minimal interest from anyone of note including uw). Uw went hard after rb's that are ranked way lower than him and were told no thanks. They evaluated other guys much higher and here we are.

    They were always going hard after Gaskin because they wanted him regardless of ranking or interest from other schools. Just like they went hard after Tybo from the beginning.
    I hope he gets ungrounded soon so we can see what we have in him.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,726 Founders Club
    They have over a month to figure it out.

    End of the day Penix and his two receivers have to get it done anyways. Running game can't overcome a bunch of picks no matter what.

    Taulapapa had two great games last year and no one ever gets credit for beating up on the cuog.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,295 Founders Club
    Gladstone said:

    early returns are alarming but i honestly can't even remember the last time our RBs started a season strong, not even during the gaskin years lol

    2016 week 1: https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/400869097

    2017 week 1: https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/400935250

    we have god tier offensive coaches. i'll let this one play out for now. hopefully nixon or tybo or someone proves they're clearly the guy, like freshman gaskin did vs usc in 2015.



    edit: lmao @ how awful those uniforms were

    Is it an indictment against Pete’s offense to only gain 380 and 368 total yards against Rutgers?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,423 Founders Club

    Gladstone said:

    early returns are alarming but i honestly can't even remember the last time our RBs started a season strong, not even during the gaskin years lol

    2016 week 1: https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/400869097

    2017 week 1: https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/400935250

    we have god tier offensive coaches. i'll let this one play out for now. hopefully nixon or tybo or someone proves they're clearly the guy, like freshman gaskin did vs usc in 2015.



    edit: lmao @ how awful those uniforms were

    Is it an indictment against Pete’s offense to only gain 380 and 368 total yards against Rutgers?