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Shouldn't Oregon be the heavy favorite?

RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
edited February 16 in College Football Forum
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Sounds like the people aren't confident in the talent on this sidelines .
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,121
    edited August 2023
    dnc said:

    Sounds like the people aren't confident in the talent on this sidelines .

    Oregon’s 2nd favorite on every other book. Classic wolfy pulling the most obscure odds possible from some Panamanian book.

    Also looks like he swapped Oregon and Oregon state/Utah in his table. Great work, scott
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    ntxduck said:

    dnc said:

    Sounds like the people aren't confident in the talent on this sidelines .

    Oregon’s 2nd favorite on every other book. Classic wolfy pulling the most obscure odds possible from some Panamanian book.

    Also looks like he swapped Oregon and Oregon state/Utah in his table. Great work, scott
    To be clear, you think Oregon's odds should be 8/1 rather than 15/4?
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,121
    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    dnc said:

    Sounds like the people aren't confident in the talent on this sidelines .

    Oregon’s 2nd favorite on every other book. Classic wolfy pulling the most obscure odds possible from some Panamanian book.

    Also looks like he swapped Oregon and Oregon state/Utah in his table. Great work, scott
    To be clear, you think Oregon's odds should be 8/1 rather than 15/4?
    No—the far right column is implied % of winning the conference based on the betting odds. It’s not % of $ received, as CU is he biggest liability at every single book.

    Oregon should be 15.2%. Utah 9.1%. Oregon state 7.6%.

    On every US book, Oregon is ahead of UW. No idea why he pulled the odds from this obscure Caribbean outfit instead of using dk/fd.

    If you’re not familiar with wolf, he makes eklund look like Einstein.
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Like I’ve said many times Peterman was a damn good recruiter. 90-11, not so much. Enjoy the best talent he’ll ever have to work with this coming year, Race.

    MidB1G is your future.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    Like I’ve said many times Peterman was a damn good recruiter. 90-11, not so much. Enjoy the best talent he’ll ever have to work with this coming year, Race.

    MidB1G is your future.

    Enjoy wasting talent

    Again
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    10-3, such a waste.

    Enjoy your best season ever under 90-11.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    So Kirby was wrong then. Coaching matters

    11-2 >> 10-3

    37-34

    Loser
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited August 2023
    RaceBannon said:

    So Kirby was wrong then. Coaching matters

    11-2 >> 10-3

    37-34

    Loser

    When did you get dropped on your head old man?

    Or did you just stumble and bump it?

    uw wasn't void of talent last year.

    Thanks Peterman!

    You missed Smart's point.

    Shocking.

    Dipshit.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    4 an 5 stars

    Read your own posts


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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    RaceBannon said:

    4 an 5 stars

    Read your own posts


    So you stumbled.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    Stars matter until they don't

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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,268 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2023
    RaceBannon said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Like I’ve said many times Peterman was a damn good recruiter. 90-11, not so much. Enjoy the best talent he’ll ever have to work with this coming year, Race.

    MidB1G is your future.

    Enjoy wasting talent

    Again
    Why start now?

    Oregon could have the most talent, but they have at best the 5th best coach in the league, until he proves otherwise, and poor roster construction on defense. They bust after bust after bust at edge and corner and that is a shit ass combination to have not work out.

    I'm not sure Oregon has a starting caliber cornerback on the roster. They're all safety body types, while the actual corners are freshmen or approaching bust status. Who on the roster is a "cover guy"? There isn't one unless someone like Manning or Florence step up and take a starting job.
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    dtd said:

    RaceBannon said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Like I’ve said many times Peterman was a damn good recruiter. 90-11, not so much. Enjoy the best talent he’ll ever have to work with this coming year, Race.

    MidB1G is your future.

    Enjoy wasting talent

    Again
    Why start now?

    Oregon could have the most talent, but they have at best the 5th best coach in the league, until he proves otherwise, and poor roster construction on defense. They bust after bust after bust at edge and corner and that is a shit ass combination to have not work out.

    I'm not sure Oregon has a starting caliber cornerback on the roster. They're all safety body types, while the actual corners are freshmen or approaching bust status. Who on the roster is a "cover guy"? There isn't one unless someone like Manning or Florence step up and take a starting job.
    Sounds like they need to hire you to help construct the roster.

    Resume.

    Send.
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    RaceBannon said:

    Stars matter until they don't

    Only someone having suffered a brain injury would have this takeaway.

    Does Peterman get a royalty?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Stars matter until they don't

    Only someone having suffered a brain injury would have this takeaway.

    Does Peterman get a royalty?
    It's your takeaway

    So yeah
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    Oregon State who ran it 19 times in a row on Oregon and beat the shit out of Florida, Took SC and UW to the wire, has fucking *EIGHT* going into this year

    Are we done here?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    haie said:

    Oregon State who ran it 19 times in a row on Oregon and beat the shit out of Florida, Took SC and UW to the wire, has fucking *EIGHT* going into this year

    Are we done here?

    But Kirby

    And Lanning
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited August 2023
    RaceBannon said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Stars matter until they don't

    Only someone having suffered a brain injury would have this takeaway.

    Does Peterman get a royalty?
    It's your takeaway

    So yeah
    It’s okay that you didn’t understand what Smart was saying. You’re old.
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Imagine you’re going to win anything of significance with a roster of 3* MWC ALL-Stars, that was the point.

    Lanning is just getting started. He pissed two games away. It’s not like he lost to UCLA and ASU.

    Are we done here, idiots?
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  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    RaceBannon said:

    So Kirby was wrong then. Coaching matters

    11-2 >> 10-3

    37-34

    Loser

    Funny how your preseason takes on Oregon have changed since before the start of last season and the start of this season.

    Lots of shit talking after going 1-0 against Ducks.
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    Wave those pom poms fags.

    'Fuck Yeah'

    Phil hired a Keg Boy and loved the Apple TV deal, but all is right in Shitgene..
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    You boys sounds defensive

    You know I'm right about Lannbo
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  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,353 Swaye's Wigwam
    RaceBannon said:

    You boys sounds defensive

    You know I'm right about Lannbo

    Lannbo is TBD. You might be right. Or wrong. LIPO.

    But no sane analyst would argue that having more 4/5 stars, in isolation, lowers your odds of winning. See the list of national champions since the inception of the BCS/playoff. But of course coaching and chemistry matter, and did for all of those natty champs.

    Penix is the best QB UW has had since, shit, are there any you'd choose to replace him right now if you could? I can't think of any I'd choose over him. Maybe Joe Burrow and his NFL receivers had something to do with LSU winning? And Herbert for "Coach" Meat? How did that work out for them when those chumps left? Maybe we should save the HOF induction for Coach Fats until he has to replace Penix and gets his guyses in there.

    But you know all this.

    LIPO. Should be fun.
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    flatus said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You boys sounds defensive

    You know I'm right about Lannbo

    Lannbo is TBD. You might be right. Or wrong. LIPO.

    But no sane analyst would argue that having more 4/5 stars, in isolation, lowers your odds of winning. See the list of national champions since the inception of the BCS/playoff. But of course coaching and chemistry matter, and did for all of those natty champs.

    Penix is the best QB UW has had since, shit, are there any you'd choose to replace him right now if you could? I can't think of any I'd choose over him. Maybe Joe Burrow and his NFL receivers had something to do with LSU winning? And Herbert for "Coach" Meat? How did that work out for them when those chumps left? Maybe we should save the HOF induction for Coach Fats until he has to replace Penix and gets his guyses in there.

    But you know all this.

    LIPO. Should be fun.
    5 ⭐ Quarterback Justin Herbert.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    flatus said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You boys sounds defensive

    You know I'm right about Lannbo

    Lannbo is TBD. You might be right. Or wrong. LIPO.

    But no sane analyst would argue that having more 4/5 stars, in isolation, lowers your odds of winning. See the list of national champions since the inception of the BCS/playoff. But of course coaching and chemistry matter, and did for all of those natty champs.

    Penix is the best QB UW has had since, shit, are there any you'd choose to replace him right now if you could? I can't think of any I'd choose over him. Maybe Joe Burrow and his NFL receivers had something to do with LSU winning? And Herbert for "Coach" Meat? How did that work out for them when those chumps left? Maybe we should save the HOF induction for Coach Fats until he has to replace Penix and gets his guyses in there.

    But you know all this.

    LIPO. Should be fun.
    Who said it lowered the odds? I said Oregon should be favored

    But they aren't
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  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,353 Swaye's Wigwam
    RaceBannon said:

    flatus said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You boys sounds defensive

    You know I'm right about Lannbo

    Lannbo is TBD. You might be right. Or wrong. LIPO.

    But no sane analyst would argue that having more 4/5 stars, in isolation, lowers your odds of winning. See the list of national champions since the inception of the BCS/playoff. But of course coaching and chemistry matter, and did for all of those natty champs.

    Penix is the best QB UW has had since, shit, are there any you'd choose to replace him right now if you could? I can't think of any I'd choose over him. Maybe Joe Burrow and his NFL receivers had something to do with LSU winning? And Herbert for "Coach" Meat? How did that work out for them when those chumps left? Maybe we should save the HOF induction for Coach Fats until he has to replace Penix and gets his guyses in there.

    But you know all this.

    LIPO. Should be fun.
    Who said it lowered the odds? I said Oregon should be favored

    But they aren't
    Who is saying that Oregon should be the favorite because it has the most 4/5 stars? Only you as far as I can tell.

    "But of course, coaching and chemistry matter."

    The odds makers have 1 data point for Oregon (and most odds have Oregon 2nd behind USC, but I digress). Indeed, Lanning shit the bed last year against UW and particularly Oregon State. Nobody thinks talent alone is predictor of winning, but it is a prerequisite for winning it all.

    Because of its talent, Oregon has more upside than any team in P12, but coaching and chemistry were not sufficiently strong in 1 season under Lanning to make it the favorite.

    It shouldn't be the favorite. 2nd-4th is exactly where my? Ducks should be slotted given what we know.

    LIPO.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    flatus said:

    RaceBannon said:

    flatus said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You boys sounds defensive

    You know I'm right about Lannbo

    Lannbo is TBD. You might be right. Or wrong. LIPO.

    But no sane analyst would argue that having more 4/5 stars, in isolation, lowers your odds of winning. See the list of national champions since the inception of the BCS/playoff. But of course coaching and chemistry matter, and did for all of those natty champs.

    Penix is the best QB UW has had since, shit, are there any you'd choose to replace him right now if you could? I can't think of any I'd choose over him. Maybe Joe Burrow and his NFL receivers had something to do with LSU winning? And Herbert for "Coach" Meat? How did that work out for them when those chumps left? Maybe we should save the HOF induction for Coach Fats until he has to replace Penix and gets his guyses in there.

    But you know all this.

    LIPO. Should be fun.
    Who said it lowered the odds? I said Oregon should be favored

    But they aren't
    Who is saying that Oregon should be the favorite because it has the most 4/5 stars? Only you as far as I can tell.

    "But of course, coaching and chemistry matter."

    The odds makers have 1 data point for Oregon (and most odds have Oregon 2nd behind USC, but I digress). Indeed, Lanning shit the bed last year against UW and particularly Oregon State. Nobody thinks talent alone is predictor of winning, but it is a prerequisite for winning it all.

    Because of its talent, Oregon has more upside than any team in P12, but coaching and chemistry were not sufficiently strong in 1 season under Lanning to make it the favorite.

    It shouldn't be the favorite. 2nd-4th is exactly where my? Ducks should be slotted given what we know.

    LIPO.
    46 has been blathering that for months

    Hope this helps

    And too long didn't read
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    flatus said:

    RaceBannon said:

    You boys sounds defensive

    You know I'm right about Lannbo

    Lannbo is TBD. You might be right. Or wrong. LIPO.

    But no sane analyst would argue that having more 4/5 stars, in isolation, lowers your odds of winning. See the list of national champions since the inception of the BCS/playoff. But of course coaching and chemistry matter, and did for all of those natty champs.

    Penix is the best QB UW has had since, shit, are there any you'd choose to replace him right now if you could? I can't think of any I'd choose over him. Maybe Joe Burrow and his NFL receivers had something to do with LSU winning? And Herbert for "Coach" Meat? How did that work out for them when those chumps left? Maybe we should save the HOF induction for Coach Fats until he has to replace Penix and gets his guyses in there.

    But you know all this.

    LIPO. Should be fun.
    Stop with the facts.
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