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LA Times: Pac-12 collapse was Kalen DeBoer's fault

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  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,510 Founders Club
    edited August 2023

    Numbers, math, facts, etc
    Simple facts?
  • Member Posts: 1,218
    Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?
  • Member Posts: 13,659 Standard Supporter
    haie said:
    NFL playoff games are being put on Peacock this year. Seems to be a little more legit than Apple.
  • Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter

    Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?

    Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.
  • Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,523 Founders Club
    whlinder said:

    Does Phil Knight even understand what streaming is?

    Anyway, as I've said in other places, I can buy the argument that there was a benefit to Apple given its streaming ambitions and the number of its devices which are in the hands of American consumers on a day to day basis. "Everybody knows" that streaming is the future.

    But it's still a basic product strategy problem with distribution networks. Pac-12 content (the product) does not have high demand and therefore consumers will not seek it out regardless of its distribution network. Content like NFL games does have high demand and therefore they can get away with more streaming. Without that power the product is dependent on its distribution network for exposure, hence the need for linear.

    UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.
  • Member Posts: 13,007

    Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.
    No, they're still broadcasting games this season (football, basketball, etc.).

    It'll probably die next July
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 851 Founders Club
    I read that shitpiece article yesterday. The whole thing reeked of Kliavkoff going off the record in order to preserve his future prospects.
  • Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,663 Founders Club

    UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.
    I don't want this future of which you speak.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,310 Founders Club

    Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.
    I've checked from time to time and it seems they've gone into just showing every replace from every sport they have.

    They will probably do live coverage for football and basketball for the final year.
  • Member Posts: 7,354
    I bet yogi cries on tv.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,510 Swaye's Wigwam
    TXDawg said:

    I read that shitpiece article yesterday. The whole thing reeked of Kliavkoff going off the record in order to preserve his future prospects.

    I’ve heard he’s made the second round of interviews for a key position with apple. He’d be leading the Sports streaming team. He’d be focused on developing relationships with key players so apple can break into this very lucrative opportunity.

    Don’t twist.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,789 Swaye's Wigwam
    haie said:

    I've checked from time to time and it seems they've gone into just showing every replace from every sport they have.

    They will probably do live coverage for football and basketball for the final year.
    Was going to say the same. It doesn't happen often, but I'll flip the dish guide to 406 or whatever it is once in a while to see what the PAC 12 and other networks are offering. Nothing changed with them. It's all shit like always. There's a 60 minute replay of some random game going once in a while.
  • Member Posts: 14,566
    But I was told that George was kicking ass!
  • Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,662 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    I read that yesterday. UW was actually leading the way out when it came time to do so.

    What are the odds that the President that listened to his AI professor’s assessment of market value to be $50 mill per team was also UW’s?





    81%????

    Because the day that President convinced the others of this, was the day the PAC 12 really died.

    The article said the president and one of his professors so I it wasn’t AMC.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,378 Founders Club

    The article said the president and one of his professors so I it wasn’t AMC.
    assuming gender? w, jw
  • Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,662 Founders Club
    Sources said:

    assuming gender? w, jw
    I hesitated before posting but felt safe knowing I was only restating what some other person said.

    I’ll do better next time.
  • Member Posts: 14,913
    edited August 2023

    UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.

    And y’all could have been in on the ground floor.

    But seriously, streaming works for almost everything besides a College Football Saturday. I’m sure tech will improve to where it doesn’t take 30 seconds to change between apps on your TV to see the other game.

    But right now streaming between different services doesn’t fit. We’re used to changing a channel to get to the next game.





  • Member Posts: 2,886
    Kaepsknee said:


    And y’all could have been in on the ground floor.

    But seriously, streaming works for almost everything besides a College Football Saturday. I’m sure tech will improve to where it doesn’t take 30 seconds to change between apps on your TV to see the other game.

    But right now streaming between different services doesn’t fit. We’re used to changing a channel to get to the next game.





    I often watch with the tv on cable and a laptop going with the streaming stuff. Multiple windows going.

    I think the key is no football fan actually wants to watch a streamed game.
  • Member Posts: 1,078
    Can DeBoer do two jobs? Let's keep him as HC and also give him the AD job.
  • Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,662 Founders Club

    Can DeBoer do two jobs? Let's keep him as HC and also give him the AD job.

    Barry Alvarez did it for a while.
  • Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,523 Founders Club

    Barry Alvarez did it for a while.
    Jim Owens did it for awhile, I'm pretty sure

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