LA Times: Pac-12 collapse was Kalen DeBoer's fault
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Simple facts?GrundleStiltzkin said:
Numbers, math, facts, etcPurpleBaze said:
Rather easily...whatshouldicareabout said:
I'd rather have games on Peacock for $70m a year than on AppleTV for $20m a yearPurpleBaze said: -
Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?
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NFL playoff games are being put on Peacock this year. Seems to be a little more legit than Apple.haie said: -
Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.coach_pete_JPG said:Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?
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UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.whlinder said:Does Phil Knight even understand what streaming is?
Anyway, as I've said in other places, I can buy the argument that there was a benefit to Apple given its streaming ambitions and the number of its devices which are in the hands of American consumers on a day to day basis. "Everybody knows" that streaming is the future.
But it's still a basic product strategy problem with distribution networks. Pac-12 content (the product) does not have high demand and therefore consumers will not seek it out regardless of its distribution network. Content like NFL games does have high demand and therefore they can get away with more streaming. Without that power the product is dependent on its distribution network for exposure, hence the need for linear. -
No, they're still broadcasting games this season (football, basketball, etc.).Doog_de_Jour said:
Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.coach_pete_JPG said:Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?
It'll probably die next July -
I read that shitpiece article yesterday. The whole thing reeked of Kliavkoff going off the record in order to preserve his future prospects.
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I don't want this future of which you speak.DerekJohnson said:
UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.whlinder said:Does Phil Knight even understand what streaming is?
Anyway, as I've said in other places, I can buy the argument that there was a benefit to Apple given its streaming ambitions and the number of its devices which are in the hands of American consumers on a day to day basis. "Everybody knows" that streaming is the future.
But it's still a basic product strategy problem with distribution networks. Pac-12 content (the product) does not have high demand and therefore consumers will not seek it out regardless of its distribution network. Content like NFL games does have high demand and therefore they can get away with more streaming. Without that power the product is dependent on its distribution network for exposure, hence the need for linear. -
I've checked from time to time and it seems they've gone into just showing every replace from every sport they have.Doog_de_Jour said:
Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.coach_pete_JPG said:Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?
They will probably do live coverage for football and basketball for the final year. -
I bet yogi cries on tv.
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I’ve heard he’s made the second round of interviews for a key position with apple. He’d be leading the Sports streaming team. He’d be focused on developing relationships with key players so apple can break into this very lucrative opportunity.TXDawg said:I read that shitpiece article yesterday. The whole thing reeked of Kliavkoff going off the record in order to preserve his future prospects.
Don’t twist. -
Was going to say the same. It doesn't happen often, but I'll flip the dish guide to 406 or whatever it is once in a while to see what the PAC 12 and other networks are offering. Nothing changed with them. It's all shit like always. There's a 60 minute replay of some random game going once in a while.haie said:
I've checked from time to time and it seems they've gone into just showing every replace from every sport they have.Doog_de_Jour said:
Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.coach_pete_JPG said:Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?
They will probably do live coverage for football and basketball for the final year. -
The venn diagram of "apple users" "people wanting to stream sports" and "College football fans" has gotta be pretty weak.YellowSnow said:
I don't want this future of which you speak.DerekJohnson said:
UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.whlinder said:Does Phil Knight even understand what streaming is?
Anyway, as I've said in other places, I can buy the argument that there was a benefit to Apple given its streaming ambitions and the number of its devices which are in the hands of American consumers on a day to day basis. "Everybody knows" that streaming is the future.
But it's still a basic product strategy problem with distribution networks. Pac-12 content (the product) does not have high demand and therefore consumers will not seek it out regardless of its distribution network. Content like NFL games does have high demand and therefore they can get away with more streaming. Without that power the product is dependent on its distribution network for exposure, hence the need for linear.
People sitting in SF coffee houses aren't streaming college football on their iPhone 14's.
Per usual Pac12 leadership completely out of touch with the actual fanbase. -
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But I was told that George was kicking ass!
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The article said the president and one of his professors so I it wasn’t AMC.Kaepsknee said:I read that yesterday. UW was actually leading the way out when it came time to do so.
What are the odds that the President that listened to his AI professor’s assessment of market value to be $50 mill per team was also UW’s?
81%????
Because the day that President convinced the others of this, was the day the PAC 12 really died. -
assuming gender? w, jwCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
The article said the president and one of his professors so I it wasn’t AMC.Kaepsknee said:I read that yesterday. UW was actually leading the way out when it came time to do so.
What are the odds that the President that listened to his AI professor’s assessment of market value to be $50 mill per team was also UW’s?
81%????
Because the day that President convinced the others of this, was the day the PAC 12 really died. -
I hesitated before posting but felt safe knowing I was only restating what some other person said.Sources said:
assuming gender? w, jwCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
The article said the president and one of his professors so I it wasn’t AMC.Kaepsknee said:I read that yesterday. UW was actually leading the way out when it came time to do so.
What are the odds that the President that listened to his AI professor’s assessment of market value to be $50 mill per team was also UW’s?
81%????
Because the day that President convinced the others of this, was the day the PAC 12 really died.
I’ll do better next time. -
DerekJohnson said:
UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.whlinder said:Does Phil Knight even understand what streaming is?
Anyway, as I've said in other places, I can buy the argument that there was a benefit to Apple given its streaming ambitions and the number of its devices which are in the hands of American consumers on a day to day basis. "Everybody knows" that streaming is the future.
But it's still a basic product strategy problem with distribution networks. Pac-12 content (the product) does not have high demand and therefore consumers will not seek it out regardless of its distribution network. Content like NFL games does have high demand and therefore they can get away with more streaming. Without that power the product is dependent on its distribution network for exposure, hence the need for linear.
And y’all could have been in on the ground floor.
But seriously, streaming works for almost everything besides a College Football Saturday. I’m sure tech will improve to where it doesn’t take 30 seconds to change between apps on your TV to see the other game.
But right now streaming between different services doesn’t fit. We’re used to changing a channel to get to the next game.
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I often watch with the tv on cable and a laptop going with the streaming stuff. Multiple windows going.Kaepsknee said:DerekJohnson said:
UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.whlinder said:Does Phil Knight even understand what streaming is?
Anyway, as I've said in other places, I can buy the argument that there was a benefit to Apple given its streaming ambitions and the number of its devices which are in the hands of American consumers on a day to day basis. "Everybody knows" that streaming is the future.
But it's still a basic product strategy problem with distribution networks. Pac-12 content (the product) does not have high demand and therefore consumers will not seek it out regardless of its distribution network. Content like NFL games does have high demand and therefore they can get away with more streaming. Without that power the product is dependent on its distribution network for exposure, hence the need for linear.
And y’all could have been in on the ground floor.
But seriously, streaming works for almost everything besides a College Football Saturday. I’m sure tech will improve to where it doesn’t take 30 seconds to change between apps on your TV to see the other game.
But right now streaming between different services doesn’t fit. We’re used to changing a channel to get to the next game.
I think the key is no football fan actually wants to watch a streamed game. -
Can DeBoer do two jobs? Let's keep him as HC and also give him the AD job.
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Barry Alvarez did it for a while.HairyBallsDawg said:Can DeBoer do two jobs? Let's keep him as HC and also give him the AD job.
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Jim Owens did it for awhile, I'm pretty sureCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Barry Alvarez did it for a while.HairyBallsDawg said:Can DeBoer do two jobs? Let's keep him as HC and also give him the AD job.
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