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TTJ said:

Great article.

This, thanks for posting that Race

I don't know why you give me that link.

tl;dr actually my ADD kicked in a little and really couldn't read all of it, but I liked this:

Soldinger: Portis is probably right. If we had gotten him the ball earlier, we might've won.

how many times have I said that? you know. many learned Cane fans, such as me, remember Butch as a hell of a recruiter and talent evaluator (duh), but also as an average game day coach. although really he had good RBs playing in front of Portis in Davenport and Jackson, so that may not be fair - who would really know that a sophomore backup would come in and light Washington up? probably nobody.

I see what you're doing here Race. you're just setting me up to be that much more miserable this weekend. fuck.

I was at that game, and the description is pretty spot on. Dan Morgan was a great fucking linebacker, but they were better at that position overall the next year when Vilma developed with DJ Williams to go with Chris Campbell. Vilma just fucking manhandled Nebraska in the Rose like a reservation whore. and though they lost Damione Lewis, who was a great pass rusher from the interior, the D line overall got better the next year too with the emergence of Wilfork and McDougle.

bottom line is that the 2000 team was loaded and graduated some superstars, but the 2001 starting 22 was better than the 2000 starting 22.

RaceBannon said:

I remember thinking exactly what Rick said, can the clock run out before these guys score another one on us

One of the hardest things for me is separating Husky football coach Rick with just Rick. I hate the guy as a recruiter and program developer, but I love the guy as everything else.

edit: and that includes coaching the actual football games, he was awesome at that if he had a good team to work with.

Thanks to the weaz for destroyin g our running game tradition. Alexis was the worst tailback, in terms of vision and escapability, than any back dating back 4 decades. Horrible. Mo Shaw ran a close second.

puppylove_sugarsteel said:

Thanks to the weaz for destroyin g our running game tradition. Alexis was the worst tailback, in terms of vision and escapability, than any back dating back 4 decades. Horrible. Mo Shaw ran a close second.

wouldn't go that far. the problem with Alexis was that he was more of a classic I back. I think Rich Alexis would have done well on any of those Nebraska option I formation offenses ... north and south power/speed guys who need a lane. they don't often transition well to offenses that make them run between the tackles.

you're also bitching about a kid who, as freshman, broke open the fucking game against Miami with his TD run ... a game which, as others have observed, goes down as one of Washington's best ever. Of course Tui was the catalyst on that play and in that game, but give Rich some credit.

4 decades? i can probably think of some.

RaceBannon said:

I actually am a long time Cane fan. ESPN the early days used the local Howard Schnellberger Show as filler when Howard was building the empire pre 1983. For some reason I got hooked on this shitty football team trying to become someone.

I made the mistake of going to dinner with some chick who I quickly realized wasn't going to fuck me during the Orange Bowl against Nebraska. I figured like everyone else that the Huskers would boat race Bernie and the boys. I got home in time to see the failed two point conversion.

I rank that 2000 win as probably the best team I have ever seen UW beat. Nebraska and Michigan in 1991 were bigger wins, but those were mediocre teams. To actually witness the Dawgs beat the Canes at Husky Stadium was pretty fucking cool. I think the 2000 Canes were better than the 1994 Canes.

The sad thing is that the 2000-2002 Canes only got one ring. Losing to Ohio State was inexcusable. And painful to watch.

The article was correct in pointing out that Husky Stadium beat the Canes that day. That 21-3 jump out was the ball game. I remember thinking exactly what Rick said, can the clock run out before these guys score another one on us

How'd they compare to 84 OU Grandpa Race?

I don't remember much about that season, other than being shocked that we beat Miami and even more shocked when we blew it against Oregon. I agree that Miami would have beaten Oklahoma if they had played for the championship. Those teams were absurdly talented. You could argue all day about hypothetical match ups, though.

puppylove_sugarsteel said:

Thanks to the weaz for destroyin g our running game tradition. Alexis was the worst tailback, in terms of vision and escapability, than any back dating back 4 decades. Horrible. Mo Shaw ran a close second.

Our running gayme was fucking dreck from '98 through about '08. I actually met Kenny James in probably April or May of 2004 because this Doog friend of mine took a jock sociology class with him and I went along after being begged, being literally unemployed and living in a basement (I did actually rent it though). Anyhow, the guy was shorter than me (5' 9 3/4" or some shit) and just didn't strike me as looking like a D 1A fball player. Slick Rick was responsible for at least 40% of that era's poor rb play, if not more. Sorry, back to Canes worship.

RaceBannon said:

The article was correct in pointing out that Husky Stadium beat the Canes that day. That 21-3 jump out was the ball game. I remember thinking exactly what Rick said, can the clock run out before these guys score another one on us

This
I rented a catered tent in the East Endzone before the game to host a "medically relevant" presentation from a UW Doc.

I was shocked it was available, and how cheap it was, including 40 tix.

No one thought we stood a chance in that game.

Say what you want about Neu, but for every fault, he had some great fucking wins.

WilburHooksHands said:

PurpleJ said:

I don't remember much about that season, other than being shocked that we beat Miami and even more shocked when we blew it against Oregon. I agree that Miami would have beaten Oklahoma if they had played for the championship. Those teams were absurdly talented. You could argue all day about hypothetical match ups, though.

But what about the '91 DAWGS??!!?!11

95 Nebraska CLASSY PROGRAM OSBORNE!!!!111!

Rich Alexis was pretty bad. He could take an option pitch from Tui, but that's about it. Once Tui left he was serviceable, but below average. He was big and pretty fast, but had no vision or instincts at all. In a worst case scenario, I see Dwayne Washington being a more athletic version of Alexis. I think Washington will develop, but they have some similarities.

RaceBannon said:

dnc said:

RaceBannon said:

I actually am a long time Cane fan. ESPN the early days used the local Howard Schnellberger Show as filler when Howard was building the empire pre 1983. For some reason I got hooked on this shitty football team trying to become someone.

I made the mistake of going to dinner with some chick who I quickly realized wasn't going to fuck me during the Orange Bowl against Nebraska. I figured like everyone else that the Huskers would boat race Bernie and the boys. I got home in time to see the failed two point conversion.

I rank that 2000 win as probably the best team I have ever seen UW beat. Nebraska and Michigan in 1991 were bigger wins, but those were mediocre teams. To actually witness the Dawgs beat the Canes at Husky Stadium was pretty fucking cool. I think the 2000 Canes were better than the 1994 Canes.

The sad thing is that the 2000-2002 Canes only got one ring. Losing to Ohio State was inexcusable. And painful to watch.

The article was correct in pointing out that Husky Stadium beat the Canes that day. That 21-3 jump out was the ball game. I remember thinking exactly what Rick said, can the clock run out before these guys score another one on us

How'd they compare to 84 OU Grandpa Race?

Miami owned Switzer

Miami owned Switzer and anybody else with a one-dimensional offense, no matter how good at it they were, especially if it took a second to develop behind the LOS and was predicated on getting to the edges like Oklahoma's.

RoadDawg55 said:

Great article. I really like the Miami program and wish they were dominant again. They churned out great NFL talent and the teams were bad ass. The 2001 team is the best team I have ever seen. The 2004 USC team is the only team that's even remotely close. That was a bullshit PI call that fucked Miami in 2002. They are probably my second favorite program. It's too bad they have fucked up their last two coaching hires.

Miami is kind of hypocrites for the whining about FSU. UW beat Miami, yet they don't acknowledge that. I fully get Miami's thinking that they should have won that game and were the better team, but that's irrelevant. When they played, they lost. It's not like UW's one loss was to a bad team either. Oregon was a top 10 team that beat Texas in the Holiday Bowl. I would assume the Pac 10 was stronger than the Big East as well. It's too fucking bad there wasn't a playoff to settle it. That would have sucked.

TL, DR: Cry me a fucking river Miami. UW had just as much right to be upset.

The Miami corner grabbed the wrs jersey with the ball in the air. That's pass interference. Watch the replay.

creepycoug said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Rich Alexis was pretty bad. He could take an option pitch from Tui, but that's about it. Once Tui left he was serviceable, but below average.

exactly. Pickett was a helluva passer and, TECHNICALLY, a better athlete than Tui (i.e., he was bigger and had more straight-line speed and a better arm), but you can't teach that feel for the option game and running in the open field. Tui oozed it and Pickett was horrible. I remember going to games that season and watching Rick push the option at least a few times on every drive. it was like even the old ladies in the stands were yelling, "he can't fucking do it; he's a pocket passer!"

once Alexis had to play with Cody, it was over because they couldn't run the option and Alexis ran into his own blockers and was never a vision guy.

IIRC when Pickett came to UW he was the all-time leading rebounder for HS hoops in Idaho.
I know it's Idaho, but still. That's some natural athletic ability. And of course his bull-riding...

He couldn't run the option like Tui but it wasn't terrible. Though once Pickett separated his shoulder it was over for the option.