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YellowSnow
YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
edited July 2023 in Hardcore Husky Board
Was it the Big 10 that primarily drove the decision to surrender the Rose Bowl and join the BCS in 1998 or was it a mutual thing where the Pac 10 was in complete agreement?
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,778 Founders Club
    It's gonna be awesome when the Rose bowl features two SEC teams every year.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
    haie said:

    It's gonna be awesome when the Rose bowl features two SEC teams every year.

    The reason I ask is because I feel like this was a Big 10 driven thing after Pedo State went 12-0 and got shut out of the Natty back in 1994.

    The Big 10 fucking owes now, since it was the surrendering of the Rose Bowl to the BCS that led to this current cluster fuck.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066
    RaceBannon said:

    Probably the Big 10

    Ucla was going to the BCS though until a hurricane make up game at Miami in November. That was a bad Cane team too although building towards 00 to 02

    Beware make up games in Miami in November

    300 yds. rushing by some kid named Edge. 300 yards rushing on the ground by one player = exposed.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Probably the Big 10

    Ucla was going to the BCS though until a hurricane make up game at Miami in November. That was a bad Cane team too although building towards 00 to 02

    Beware make up games in Miami in November

    Thanks a lot Bin Laden.
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  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,336
    What I remember is that the P12 drug its feet and was much less accepting of the BCS (than the B1G) to the point that the powers that be threatened to do it without the Rose Bowel and its affiliated conferences.

    Surprised no one else remembers it that way (or not).
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  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,751 Founders Club
    The Big has never felt that the Rose Bowl was “their bowl”… it’s in LA so it was always the Pac12’s private bowl and the BIG was fine with de-emphasizing the Rose at the expense of the Pac-12 whom they have always been at war with and have now conquered. Game, set, match
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
    TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:

    The Big has never felt that the Rose Bowl was “their bowl”… it’s in LA so it was always the Pac12’s private bowl and the BIG was fine with de-emphasizing the Rose at the expense of the Pac-12 whom they have always been at war with and have now conquered. Game, set, match

    Such silly logic by those guys. Sure the Pac had some home field advantage in the Rose Bowl, but there was never gonna be a mid west bowl on New Year's Day. And it's not like Ohio St, Michingan, Iowa, etc didn't travel in droves to Pasadena.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066
    TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:

    The Big has never felt that the Rose Bowl was “their bowl”… it’s in LA so it was always the Pac12’s private bowl and the BIG was fine with de-emphasizing the Rose at the expense of the Pac-12 whom they have always been at war with and have now conquered. Game, set, match

    I grew up wondering of those fuckers ever planned on a winning a Rose Bowl and then popping off. I swear, I thought it was an annual rite of passage for some P10 team to win that bowl game. Schembechler or however you spell it was HORRIBLE in January. JFC.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066
    YellowSnow said:

    TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:

    The Big has never felt that the Rose Bowl was “their bowl”… it’s in LA so it was always the Pac12’s private bowl and the BIG was fine with de-emphasizing the Rose at the expense of the Pac-12 whom they have always been at war with and have now conquered. Game, set, match

    Such silly logic by those guys. Sure the Pac had some home field advantage in the Rose Bowl, but there was never gonna be a mid west bowl on New Year's Day. And it's not like Ohio St, Michingan, Iowa, etc didn't travel in droves to Pasadena.
    That's the thing. The midwest teams fill stadiums that are far, far away. You should have gone to any Orange Bowl Nebraska played. The amount of red in the stands was stunning.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,081 Founders Club
    People forget that the Big 10 wasn't an annual part of the Rose Bowl until 1948

    From 48 to 58 they dominated

    Then Jim Owens invented west coast football and John McKay perfected it
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,490 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Probably the Big 10

    Ucla was going to the BCS though until a hurricane make up game at Miami in November. That was a bad Cane team too although building towards 00 to 02

    Beware make up games in Miami in November


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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,490 Founders Club
    TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:

    The Big has never felt that the Rose Bowl was “their bowl”… it’s in LA so it was always the Pac12’s private bowl and the BIG was fine with de-emphasizing the Rose at the expense of the Pac-12 whom they have always been at war with and have now conquered. Game, set, match

    I'm not sure I agree with that. Back in the day it was huge for both conferences.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,081 Founders Club
    I saw two Rose Bowl games against Iowa. As was often the case Iowa fans outnumbered Washington fans

    Look at Wisconsin in the 90s. Filled the place
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,293 Standard Supporter
    I always thought that the Big 10 team who got to play in the Rose Bowl were heroes to their fans as they got to escape their miserable and pathetic Midwestern lives (and winter weather) for a week of sunshine in LA.
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,340
    I've never seen an online discussion about Bowls that's doesn't emphatically put the Rose bowl as the #1 game to play so I don't understand why B10 teams wouldnt care about it especially having the decades of tradition
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  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,751 Founders Club
    edited July 2023
    DerekJohnson said:

    TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:

    The Big has never felt that the Rose Bowl was “their bowl”… it’s in LA so it was always the Pac12’s private bowl and the BIG was fine with de-emphasizing the Rose at the expense of the Pac-12 whom they have always been at war with and have now conquered. Game, set, match

    I'm not sure I agree with that. Back in the day it was huge for both conferences.
    I agree it was a big deal to the BIG, the point I was making is from a competitive cash flow standpoint the best way to diminish the Pac12 was to diminish the importance of their primary bowl game ~ the Rose Bowl... The BIG was already going to the other big bowls as well, much more so than the PAC unless it was USC. I'm tying the timeline of the decline in the Pac 12 overall to the decline in the Rose Bowl, maybe just a coincidence but I think the 2 are connected...
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  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,379
    RaceBannon said:

    I saw two Rose Bowl games against Iowa. As was often the case Iowa fans outnumbered Washington fans

    Look at Wisconsin in the 90s. Filled the place

    husks would FILL that place with classy af fans, if they could ever get there.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,081 Founders Club
    rodmansrage said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I saw two Rose Bowl games against Iowa. As was often the case Iowa fans outnumbered Washington fans

    Look at Wisconsin in the 90s. Filled the place

    husks would FILL that place with classy af fans, if they could ever get there.
    They got boatraced by Miami in 02 after the 01 season in the BCS

    The Canes called it a night at halftime
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,143
    TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:

    The Big has never felt that the Rose Bowl was “their bowl”… it’s in LA so it was always the Pac12’s private bowl and the BIG was fine with de-emphasizing the Rose at the expense of the Pac-12 whom they have always been at war with and have now conquered. Game, set, match

    This couldn’t be further from the truth
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  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    edited July 2023
    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Probably the Big 10

    Ucla was going to the BCS though until a hurricane make up game at Miami in November. That was a bad Cane team too although building towards 00 to 02

    Beware make up games in Miami in November

    300 yds. rushing by some kid named Edge. 300 yards rushing on the ground by one player = exposed.
    Makes sense Ucla is into Edging.


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