Big Ten Football: Oregon, Washington again in the rumors crosshairs

haie said:

SECDAWG said:

I ultimately think this will happen, but that’s a BIG if things stay status quo with WA admin. Not Oregon. I think they want to compete with whoever, whatever conference, no matter even if it’s the SEC. I do not think that with WA admin. Oregon seems to be tied to WA like OU has been to TX. That’s Jmo.

Whatever WA may do, I think OR may do. Unless they sit on the pot for too long.

Well that goes without saying. As far as universities go (which is what matters to the decision makers) Oregon isn't even on the same planet as UW. They are Oregon State with a pro sports owner and the B1G knows that. Their academics has been evaluated and called into question numerous times during this whole thing, whereas Washington's research revenue is greater than every other school except for Michigan.

Kingdome_Urinals said:

The B1G long term strategy is to build a classier more high-minded super conference alternative to the meathead SEC. Treating the student athlete with a more blue state value system.

They can actually build a national coast to coast football and sports brand of mostly reputable institutions. If they get ND, UW, NC, etc. they start to really challenge for the #1 super conference spot on the field and obviously with the academic prestige.

It’s about synergy of brands and shaping the destiny of elite D-1 sports from the perspective of elite academia.

You heard it here first.

AtomicDawg said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

haie said:

SECDAWG said:

I ultimately think this will happen, but that’s a BIG if things stay status quo with WA admin. Not Oregon. I think they want to compete with whoever, whatever conference, no matter even if it’s the SEC. I do not think that with WA admin. Oregon seems to be tied to WA like OU has been to TX. That’s Jmo.

Whatever WA may do, I think OR may do. Unless they sit on the pot for too long.

Well that goes without saying. As far as universities go (which is what matters to the decision makers) Oregon isn't even on the same planet as UW. They are Oregon State with a pro sports owner and the B1G knows that. Their academics has been evaluated and called into question numerous times during this whole thing, whereas Washington's research revenue is greater than every other school except for Michigan.

The B1G long term strategy is to build a classier more high-minded super conference alternative to the meathead SEC. Treating the student athlete with a more blue state value system.

They can actually build a national coast to coast football and sports brand of mostly reputable institutions. If they get ND, UW, NC, etc. they start to really challenge for the #1 super conference spot on the field and obviously with the academic prestige.

It’s about synergy of brands and shaping the destiny of elite D-1 sports from the perspective of elite academia.

You heard it here first.

It all sounds pretty gay to me if you lose to bama in the end.

YellowSnow said:

whlinder said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

haie said:

SECDAWG said:

I ultimately think this will happen, but that’s a BIG if things stay status quo with WA admin. Not Oregon. I think they want to compete with whoever, whatever conference, no matter even if it’s the SEC. I do not think that with WA admin. Oregon seems to be tied to WA like OU has been to TX. That’s Jmo.

Whatever WA may do, I think OR may do. Unless they sit on the pot for too long.

Well that goes without saying. As far as universities go (which is what matters to the decision makers) Oregon isn't even on the same planet as UW. They are Oregon State with a pro sports owner and the B1G knows that. Their academics has been evaluated and called into question numerous times during this whole thing, whereas Washington's research revenue is greater than every other school except for Michigan.

The B1G long term strategy is to build a classier more high-minded super conference alternative to the meathead SEC. Treating the student athlete with a more blue state value system.

They can actually build a national coast to coast football and sports brand of mostly reputable institutions. If they get ND, UW, NC, etc. they start to really challenge for the #1 super conference spot on the field and obviously with the academic prestige.

It’s about synergy of brands and shaping the destiny of elite D-1 sports from the perspective of elite academia.

You heard it here first.

So then Stanford.

But is Oregon really worse than Nebraska or Iowa?

The answer is NO

@creepycoug is taking a nap on Biscayne Bay where the lazy Cuban gentleman sleep all day, so I will jump in here...

So looking at the lower acedemic prowess schools in the Big vs. Oregon....

#77 Pedo State (wtf @whlinder ? are you thinking)

#83 Iowa

#105 Oregon (Utah is tied with Oregon at #105 BTW)

#115 Rutgers

#151 Nebraksa


https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

AtomicDawg said:

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

haie said:

SECDAWG said:

I ultimately think this will happen, but that’s a BIG if things stay status quo with WA admin. Not Oregon. I think they want to compete with whoever, whatever conference, no matter even if it’s the SEC. I do not think that with WA admin. Oregon seems to be tied to WA like OU has been to TX. That’s Jmo.

Whatever WA may do, I think OR may do. Unless they sit on the pot for too long.

Well that goes without saying. As far as universities go (which is what matters to the decision makers) Oregon isn't even on the same planet as UW. They are Oregon State with a pro sports owner and the B1G knows that. Their academics has been evaluated and called into question numerous times during this whole thing, whereas Washington's research revenue is greater than every other school except for Michigan.

The B1G long term strategy is to build a classier more high-minded super conference alternative to the meathead SEC. Treating the student athlete with a more blue state value system.

They can actually build a national coast to coast football and sports brand of mostly reputable institutions. If they get ND, UW, NC, etc. they start to really challenge for the #1 super conference spot on the field and obviously with the academic prestige.

It’s about synergy of brands and shaping the destiny of elite D-1 sports from the perspective of elite academia.

You heard it here first.

You're going to have to explain Nebraska to me then. Rutgers, Maryland and Indiana are a bit of a push on "elite academics" as well. YMMV.

The academics justification bs is a favorite pastime of uw and a few other institutions in the pac 12 for not trying in athletics.

Allegedly the big 10 already pursued oregon instead of ucla in the latest poaching which if true ends academic smack talk.

haie said:

AtomicDawg said:

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

haie said:

SECDAWG said:

I ultimately think this will happen, but that’s a BIG if things stay status quo with WA admin. Not Oregon. I think they want to compete with whoever, whatever conference, no matter even if it’s the SEC. I do not think that with WA admin. Oregon seems to be tied to WA like OU has been to TX. That’s Jmo.

Whatever WA may do, I think OR may do. Unless they sit on the pot for too long.

Well that goes without saying. As far as universities go (which is what matters to the decision makers) Oregon isn't even on the same planet as UW. They are Oregon State with a pro sports owner and the B1G knows that. Their academics has been evaluated and called into question numerous times during this whole thing, whereas Washington's research revenue is greater than every other school except for Michigan.

The B1G long term strategy is to build a classier more high-minded super conference alternative to the meathead SEC. Treating the student athlete with a more blue state value system.

They can actually build a national coast to coast football and sports brand of mostly reputable institutions. If they get ND, UW, NC, etc. they start to really challenge for the #1 super conference spot on the field and obviously with the academic prestige.

It’s about synergy of brands and shaping the destiny of elite D-1 sports from the perspective of elite academia.

You heard it here first.

You're going to have to explain Nebraska to me then. Rutgers, Maryland and Indiana are a bit of a push on "elite academics" as well. YMMV.

The academics justification bs is a favorite pastime of uw and a few other institutions in the pac 12 for not trying in athletics.

Allegedly the big 10 already pursued oregon instead of ucla in the latest poaching which if true ends academic smack talk.

That's bullshit. Oregon had no clue.

They asked SC who they would want and they wanted their cross town rival.

haie said:

creepycoug said:

haie said:

AtomicDawg said:

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

haie said:

SECDAWG said:

I ultimately think this will happen, but that’s a BIG if things stay status quo with WA admin. Not Oregon. I think they want to compete with whoever, whatever conference, no matter even if it’s the SEC. I do not think that with WA admin. Oregon seems to be tied to WA like OU has been to TX. That’s Jmo.

Whatever WA may do, I think OR may do. Unless they sit on the pot for too long.

Well that goes without saying. As far as universities go (which is what matters to the decision makers) Oregon isn't even on the same planet as UW. They are Oregon State with a pro sports owner and the B1G knows that. Their academics has been evaluated and called into question numerous times during this whole thing, whereas Washington's research revenue is greater than every other school except for Michigan.

The B1G long term strategy is to build a classier more high-minded super conference alternative to the meathead SEC. Treating the student athlete with a more blue state value system.

They can actually build a national coast to coast football and sports brand of mostly reputable institutions. If they get ND, UW, NC, etc. they start to really challenge for the #1 super conference spot on the field and obviously with the academic prestige.

It’s about synergy of brands and shaping the destiny of elite D-1 sports from the perspective of elite academia.

You heard it here first.

You're going to have to explain Nebraska to me then. Rutgers, Maryland and Indiana are a bit of a push on "elite academics" as well. YMMV.

The academics justification bs is a favorite pastime of uw and a few other institutions in the pac 12 for not trying in athletics.

Allegedly the big 10 already pursued oregon instead of ucla in the latest poaching which if true ends academic smack talk.

That's bullshit. Oregon had no clue.

They asked SC who they would want and they wanted their cross town rival.

I doubt anyone here really knows.

It's been printed multiple times that Oregon and Washington had no clue.

UCLA apologized to UW. No fucks were given about Oregon.

That rumor was floated by Arizona's president who's one of the biggest fucktards in this whole fuckfest.

creepycoug said:

I'm surprised at the resurgence of the UW reflexive appeal to academics during a pre-season natty campaign. That usually happens when there is a feeling that big-time winning is in the rearview mirror. But once the term 'classy' re-enters the building, watch out!

I really don't have skin in this game, and if anything it's with Washington, which is clearly the better school all around, and from which I have more degrees than 99% of you. But this idea that you're comparing Stanford to the University of Montana doesn't quite hold up.

Washington reports better test scores historically, but that means nothing now because both schools are test optional. That said Washington's 25th, 50th and 75th ACT Composite of 27, 30 and 34 are better than Oregon's 24, 27 and 30. And UW's avg. admitted student GPA of 3.83 is better than Oregon's 3.76. Interestingly, though, the CDS shows the following distributions:

Oregon


Washington


Washington has more money at $99,000 per student to Oregon's $61,000 per. Neither figure is dazzling on a national level. Since Oregon broke away from the retarded State Higher Ed board, they have been fundraising (and building) like crazy. Watch out!

Class sizes will invariably favor Oregon, with some of UW's survey courses no longer fitting in Kane Hall, behind which I received my beating from 5 guys with letterman jackets. @YellowSnow knows who these guys are.

Of course, Washington is a research behemoth and outspends many, many, many universities across the country that are otherwise viewed as their academic equal or superior. Not sure what to make of that other than it's cool for UW.

Both schools are members of the AAU (Beav and Boof are not). Washington is more "spikey" with some departments ranking among the best of the best. Campus favors Washington, but then again, UW has the nicest campus in the conference and it's not really close.

This is not, to me, some issue with Oregon not being prestigious enough, and the fat and pasty people in the midwest confusing UW with Stanford. It's fun to run that narrative, but it's unlikely.

Here is the executive summary of all that word vomit: if this were an academic play, Cal and Furd get the next two spots and Oregon and Washington are afterthoughts. Football puts asses in the seats and gets the TV revenue. That's what is at issue here.