Haie's OFFICIAL Blazer hot talk thread
"Portland's only won 4 series in 8 years!"
Yeah but 2 of those came in one year in a finals run that ended to the Warriors. They were 1/1 against the Nuggets although it's looking like Chauncey is a major downgrade from Stotts.
Also, I guess Charlotte fans (?) were booing them for not taking this 'Scoot' kid. But it seems like Portland would be better off with a wing like Miller. This is another redundant guard.
Portland's attempt at getting Bam is dead now? Thank Christ. Maybe they should actually offload Dame but but it's better for business to keep him.
Dame the GM has been way shittier than Lebron the GM.
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Franchise going nowhere. OKC is in a better spot than them.
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If they do end up just going young with Simons, Sharpe, Scoot, Thybulle (you need defensive guys like that Philly was dumb to deal him), Grant and then use Lillard to get a usable center and some useful pieces, that's pretty much what a small market NBA team needs to go do to hit a window of contention. I don't know if their top picks will work out, but that is what Seattle did before they moved the team and OKC benefited from it.BleachedAnusDawg said:Franchise going nowhere. OKC is in a better spot than them.
OKC is one of the best run teams in the league, the way they've been able to rebuild while still contending is pretty much unmatched. The Gonzaga kid could end up being a huge injury prone bust though. -
OKC hasn't won anything for all the brains they have, and never will because they're a small-market team. Same problem Portland has. Nobody willingly goes to places like OKC and Portland. Those teams aren't willing/able to pay the luxury tax to afford a championship roster. Dame is a passive-aggressive coward and moron for not forcing a trade 3-4 years ago. A nice run to the conference semis every handful of years would is a nice accomplishment for either team.
Seattle is getting an NBA team in 3-4 years. I don't see the Seattle market being much more of a draw than Portland is to the NBA elite players. There are no longer many opportunities to land big free agent superstars on the open market, ala Shaq to LA back in the day, because of how the collective bargaining agreement is structured to allow the home team to drastically overpay to keep guys on their roster. Of course, what happens 99% of the time (Dame being the exception) is that the home-grown superstar signs the deal for their bag of cash, then promptly forces their way out 1-2 years later (Zion will be next if he stays on the court this coming season).
NBA is a league of guys who want to play in Florida, California, Texas, and maybe NY if the ownership groups get their shit together or change. Denver and San Antonio are outliers because they landed superstar players in Duncan and Jokic who are not in it for the glamour and ego. Wembanyama seems like he might be cut from the same cloth as those guys.
Silver lining for the small market teams is that half of the league's best, young players are foreign-born and seem to have different loyalties than the American kids who are about their brand, agents, etc, first. If Portland had landed Jokic instead of Nurkic they would have a title by now. Imagine having him and Dame, two of the only loyal guys of their caliber in the entire league. -
Denver is the first western conference team not in Texas or California to win the title since the Sonics
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Unlike the rest of you fags, Bleached Anus doesn't need to go running to Google to look up facts and debate sports. Stick to your Seinfeld jokes and lemon parties while Bleached Anus brings the facts and has sex with your wives.RaceBannon said:Denver is the first western conference team not in Texas or California to win the title since the Sonics
Bleached Anus makes a good point
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Before Toronto won it that had seemed like a franchise I never thought would get a ring. Their star was sent there essentially as punishment.
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And he promptly left for LA.haie said:Before Toronto won it that had seemed like a franchise I never thought would get a ring. Their star was sent there essentially as punishment.
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Milwaukee and Toronto also recently won. Nothing to do with market size. If you don't have a top 5 player you're not winning it. Only outlier I can think of since the 70's would be some of the pistons teams and the last spurs team that won with old guys and young kawaii.BleachedAnusDawg said:OKC hasn't won anything for all the brains they have, and never will because they're a small-market team. Same problem Portland has. Nobody willingly goes to places like OKC and Portland. Those teams aren't willing/able to pay the luxury tax to afford a championship roster. Dame is a passive-aggressive coward and moron for not forcing a trade 3-4 years ago. A nice run to the conference semis every handful of years would is a nice accomplishment for either team.
Seattle is getting an NBA team in 3-4 years. I don't see the Seattle market being much more of a draw than Portland is to the NBA elite players. There are no longer many opportunities to land big free agent superstars on the open market, ala Shaq to LA back in the day, because of how the collective bargaining agreement is structured to allow the home team to drastically overpay to keep guys on their roster. Of course, what happens 99% of the time (Dame being the exception) is that the home-grown superstar signs the deal for their bag of cash, then promptly forces their way out 1-2 years later (Zion will be next if he stays on the court this coming season).
NBA is a league of guys who want to play in Florida, California, Texas, and maybe NY if the ownership groups get their shit together or change. Denver and San Antonio are outliers because they landed superstar players in Duncan and Jokic who are not in it for the glamour and ego. Wembanyama seems like he might be cut from the same cloth as those guys.
Silver lining for the small market teams is that half of the league's best, young players are foreign-born and seem to have different loyalties than the American kids who are about their brand, agents, etc, first. If Portland had landed Jokic instead of Nurkic they would have a title by now. Imagine having him and Dame, two of the only loyal guys of their caliber in the entire league.
Pdx never had a problem spending when Paul was alive and if they would sell to uncle Phil that could happen again. Jodi is worthless. -
Anybody that considers themselves a UW person but also has an interest in the Blazers is fucktarded
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Allegedly Jodi isn't as stingy as you would be led to believe, but the GM isn't very good. Probably the real thing Dame is thinking about here.AtomicDawg said:
Milwaukee and Toronto also recently won. Nothing to do with market size. If you don't have a top 5 player you're not winning it. Only outlier I can think of since the 70's would be some of the pistons teams and the last spurs team that won with old guys and young kawaii.BleachedAnusDawg said:OKC hasn't won anything for all the brains they have, and never will because they're a small-market team. Same problem Portland has. Nobody willingly goes to places like OKC and Portland. Those teams aren't willing/able to pay the luxury tax to afford a championship roster. Dame is a passive-aggressive coward and moron for not forcing a trade 3-4 years ago. A nice run to the conference semis every handful of years would is a nice accomplishment for either team.
Seattle is getting an NBA team in 3-4 years. I don't see the Seattle market being much more of a draw than Portland is to the NBA elite players. There are no longer many opportunities to land big free agent superstars on the open market, ala Shaq to LA back in the day, because of how the collective bargaining agreement is structured to allow the home team to drastically overpay to keep guys on their roster. Of course, what happens 99% of the time (Dame being the exception) is that the home-grown superstar signs the deal for their bag of cash, then promptly forces their way out 1-2 years later (Zion will be next if he stays on the court this coming season).
NBA is a league of guys who want to play in Florida, California, Texas, and maybe NY if the ownership groups get their shit together or change. Denver and San Antonio are outliers because they landed superstar players in Duncan and Jokic who are not in it for the glamour and ego. Wembanyama seems like he might be cut from the same cloth as those guys.
Silver lining for the small market teams is that half of the league's best, young players are foreign-born and seem to have different loyalties than the American kids who are about their brand, agents, etc, first. If Portland had landed Jokic instead of Nurkic they would have a title by now. Imagine having him and Dame, two of the only loyal guys of their caliber in the entire league.
Pdx never had a problem spending when Paul was alive and if they would sell to uncle Phil that could happen again. Jodi is worthless.
