Puppylove_SugarSteel shares his thoughts on Dawgman.com's transformation from its early days as an internet juggernaut.
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My sure fire method of not reading a thread that I know will annoy me is by not clicking on it. Hasn't failed me yet.And I dont understand the whole "weeding through" complaint either. If people were posting 100 threads a hour then sure. But classifying 20 doogman threads as weeding? Give me a break. You have clearly forgotten the He_Needs_More_Cock Era.
My sure fire method of not reading a thread that I know will annoy me is by not clicking on it. Hasn't failed me yet.And I dont understand the whole "weeding through" complaint either. If people were posting 100 threads a hour then sure. But classifying 20 doogman threads as weeding? Give me a break.
The board is still finding a balance with dawgman bashing. It shouldn't go away, but there is line. The obsession is a little strong sometimes. It also never ends because this board gets new posters from over there that want to vent about recent interactions with Kim.
I too was a Dave Samek fan when it was a free site. Living in Southwestern Oregon made me desperate for Husky news. You have Kim pegged. He is exactly what you said heis. Of the rest of dawgman guys, I really don't have a problem. I like Chris, Lou and Scott. Dave has basically dissapeared. I like Fleenor though I get why a lot of posters don't. I met the crew at a tailgate run by Tom Poier which I fell in with by the Waterfront Activities Center. Everyone got along and Doc always supplied three deep fried turkeys. I met many ex Husky players, lots of fans and Lambo was a regular. Even Kim was a nice guy then, but it was clear that he wasn't a football expert and he's not a good writer which probably had a lot to do with him being the photographer while Chris and Scott does most of the writing. That tailgate got me through the bad years of Husky football. I gave up my season tickets when my health made it really difficult to drive the RV up from Coos Bay, Oregon. I miss those guys a lot, but I just couldn't take Napoleon any longer.
I used to not know the difference between tailgater and ordawg. True story. I thought they were the same dude.
I've been here since the beginning and didn't think there would be 1,100 users by now. It was really slow the first six mos. Like 50 poasts per day.With the growth comes growing pains. There are a lot of wannabe halfbrains trying real hard. It's fine at times, but shit gets old...or maybe that's my creative upbringing/schooling. Who knows..From what I remember, this isn't supposed to be a direct competitor to DM, Roof, and DAwgpound, but a fansite. It's nice to have put a big dent in their numbers though.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following. I have not been there. Really it's just my thoughts. If the goal is to take down DMC and be the place to talk husky football, then it needs to be toned down. Really I don't know the goal. Lol and I don't mind the assholes on here. But a lot of people do.Don't get me wrong, I laughed my ass off at the trolling on the USC board about sark and I go to the other sites to follow the 5 reasons. Some of shit is funny and hell. You might be right. Up for DJ to decide this places trajectory. But, 1100 actual registered users in less than two years seems pretty good to me. Places like TigerDroppings and Shaggy Bevo (especially) are famous all over football circles, and are frequented by thousands of people who are not Texas or LSU fans, BECAUSE they are places to make raunchy jokes, show farks, and talk football. Yeah totally agree on the raunchy jokes and shit. I dig everyone being able to say what they want, even tell DJ to DIAFF.The main comment I guess is there's 23 posts bitching about DMC. Fuck DMC. I get it. Of course I'm the dude with 30 posts bitching about you dumb fucks. Lol
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following. I have not been there. Really it's just my thoughts. If the goal is to take down DMC and be the place to talk husky football, then it needs to be toned down. Really I don't know the goal. Lol and I don't mind the assholes on here. But a lot of people do.Don't get me wrong, I laughed my ass off at the trolling on the USC board about sark and I go to the other sites to follow the 5 reasons. Some of shit is funny and hell. You might be right. Up for DJ to decide this places trajectory. But, 1100 actual registered users in less than two years seems pretty good to me. Places like TigerDroppings and Shaggy Bevo (especially) are famous all over football circles, and are frequented by thousands of people who are not Texas or LSU fans, BECAUSE they are places to make raunchy jokes, show farks, and talk football.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following. I have not been there. Really it's just my thoughts. If the goal is to take down DMC and be the place to talk husky football, then it needs to be toned down. Really I don't know the goal. Lol and I don't mind the assholes on here. But a lot of people do.Don't get me wrong, I laughed my ass off at the trolling on the USC board about sark and I go to the other sites to follow the 5 reasons. Some of shit is funny and hell.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following. I have not been there. Really it's just my thoughts. If the goal is to take down DMC and be the place to talk husky football, then it needs to be toned down. Really I don't know the goal. Lol and I don't mind the assholes on here. But a lot of people do.Don't get me wrong, I laughed my ass off at the trolling on the USC board about sark and I go to the other sites to follow the 5 reasons. Some of shit is funny and hell. Typical fucking progressive. Leave the party that's dying... go to the rockin'est party in town and immediately try to change everything to make it better... like he did to the party he just left. Or none of the above. I haven't been to DMC since the free boards went away and hung out on dawgboard (RIP). Really I don't care one way or the other. I don't post much cause I don't care to repeat the same joke 23 times. But I come here to read about husky football while I'm taking a shit. Really it's just putting in my two cents, that NOGAF. I agree with you about the obsession over DMc. At some point that will need to give way to other focuses in order for this board to be on par with Shaggy Bevo and Tiger Droppings. As for the inside jokes though, those will never go away as far as I'm concerned. Bill Cosby once said that when he was a young comic, most of the audience wouldn't laugh at his jokes. But he knew he was onto something because the wait staff (that was there every night) was laughing at his material. So I believe it's just a matter of staying the course and letting the public catch on more and more what we're doing here.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following. I have not been there. Really it's just my thoughts. If the goal is to take down DMC and be the place to talk husky football, then it needs to be toned down. Really I don't know the goal. Lol and I don't mind the assholes on here. But a lot of people do.Don't get me wrong, I laughed my ass off at the trolling on the USC board about sark and I go to the other sites to follow the 5 reasons. Some of shit is funny and hell. Typical fucking progressive. Leave the party that's dying... go to the rockin'est party in town and immediately try to change everything to make it better... like he did to the party he just left. Or none of the above. I haven't been to DMC since the free boards went away and hung out on dawgboard (RIP). Really I don't care one way or the other. I don't post much cause I don't care to repeat the same joke 23 times. But I come here to read about husky football while I'm taking a shit. Really it's just putting in my two cents, that NOGAF.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following. I have not been there. Really it's just my thoughts. If the goal is to take down DMC and be the place to talk husky football, then it needs to be toned down. Really I don't know the goal. Lol and I don't mind the assholes on here. But a lot of people do.Don't get me wrong, I laughed my ass off at the trolling on the USC board about sark and I go to the other sites to follow the 5 reasons. Some of shit is funny and hell. Typical fucking progressive. Leave the party that's dying... go to the rockin'est party in town and immediately try to change everything to make it better... like he did to the party he just left.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following. I have not been there. Really it's just my thoughts. If the goal is to take down DMC and be the place to talk husky football, then it needs to be toned down. Really I don't know the goal. Lol and I don't mind the assholes on here. But a lot of people do. Disagree that this is the goal of this site.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following. I have not been there. Really it's just my thoughts. If the goal is to take down DMC and be the place to talk husky football, then it needs to be toned down. Really I don't know the goal. Lol and I don't mind the assholes on here. But a lot of people do.
My sure fire method of not reading a thread that I know will annoy me is by not clicking on it. Hasn't failed me yet.And I dont understand the whole "weeding through" complaint either. If people were posting 100 threads a hour then sure. But classifying 20 doogman threads as weeding? Give me a break. You have clearly forgotten the He_Needs_More_Cock Era. He posted a lot but it wasn't like he flooded the board with hundreds of threads. I had 0 issues with Cockus (he was a really good poster) besides when he got overly pissy and made certain threads hard to watch. Complaining about certain posters and threads is no worse than the abundance of doogman posts. Saying stuff like "in order for this site to grow" is basically like telling DJ to start playing the role of Kim and moderating more heavily to try and swing more posters over here (which has clearly been working great for Kim).This site has been growing fine the way it is. Sure some people will get ran, but for the most part this place is pretty open to all kinds of posters. The ones that dont last are the ones who constantly complain about how this place should be "in order to grow". They dont try to add anything and all they do is cry about free beer to convert this place into something it isn't. You dont have to know or like the inside jokes to post here. But if all you are going to do is complain about them then you will get ran.People just need to post and have fun. Not worry about what the majority of threads are, up/down votes, or these "circle jerks". The internet isn't serious yet some make it out to be that way.So just post and STFU about how you perceive how this place should look like. If you dont like it go find another site or create your own board.
The issue with this site is... It's an circle jerk of 5 sweat pants boners (up from 3 since I started trying to get this place dialed in, thanks @irishdawg22) in their moms basement. And you have to weed through 23 threads whining about DMC to get to a football thread that's 81% right. I like the atmosphere here, and it's growing. But it will never be the DMC replacement until the inside jokes and DMC obsession become a side show rather than the norm.I lurk here like a dude with a molester mustache in a windowless van offering free candy. But don't really post.And no I've never given the faggots at DMC a dime. Have you ever been on Shaggy Bevo? Place is just as over the top as this place. And it has a huge following. I have not been there. Really it's just my thoughts. If the goal is to take down DMC and be the place to talk husky football, then it needs to be toned down. Really I don't know the goal. Lol and I don't mind the assholes on here. But a lot of people do. Disagree that this is the goal of this site. Yes, really I have zero idea what the goal is, nor do I really care. But the article I was commenting on discussed the downfall of DMC.
My sure fire method of not reading a thread that I know will annoy me is by not clicking on it. Hasn't failed me yet.And I dont understand the whole "weeding through" complaint either. If people were posting 100 threads a hour then sure. But classifying 20 doogman threads as weeding? Give me a break. You have clearly forgotten the He_Needs_More_Cock Era. He posted a lot but it wasn't like he flooded the board with hundreds of threads. I had 0 issues with Cockus (he was a really good poster) besides when he got overly pissy and made certain threads hard to watch. Complaining about certain posters and threads is no worse than the abundance of doogman posts. Saying stuff like "in order for this site to grow" is basically like telling DJ to start playing the role of Kim and moderating more heavily to try and swing more posters over here (which has clearly been working great for Kim).This site has been growing fine the way it is. Sure some people will get ran, but for the most part this place is pretty open to all kinds of posters. The ones that dont last are the ones who constantly complain about how this place should be "in order to grow". They dont try to add anything and all they do is cry about free beer to convert this place into something it isn't. You dont have to know or like the inside jokes to post here. But if all you are going to do is complain about them then you will get ran.People just need to post and have fun. Not worry about what the majority of threads are, up/down votes, or these "circle jerks". The internet isn't serious yet some make it out to be that way.So just post and STFU about how you perceive how this place should look like. If you dont like it go find another site or create your own board. No one is trying to convert anything to anything else. No one is telling DJ to moderate. People are here for a reason. But it is true, there is an obsession with DMC among some posters and 81% of the people are turned off by the same joke 23 times.Lol.
My sure fire method of not reading a thread that I know will annoy me is by not clicking on it. Hasn't failed me yet.And I dont understand the whole "weeding through" complaint either. If people were posting 100 threads a hour then sure. But classifying 20 doogman threads as weeding? Give me a break. You have clearly forgotten the He_Needs_More_Cock Era. He posted a lot but it wasn't like he flooded the board with hundreds of threads. I had 0 issues with Cockus (he was a really good poster) besides when he got overly pissy and made certain threads hard to watch. Complaining about certain posters and threads is no worse than the abundance of doogman posts. Saying stuff like "in order for this site to grow" is basically like telling DJ to start playing the role of Kim and moderating more heavily to try and swing more posters over here (which has clearly been working great for Kim).This site has been growing fine the way it is. Sure some people will get ran, but for the most part this place is pretty open to all kinds of posters. The ones that dont last are the ones who constantly complain about how this place should be "in order to grow". They dont try to add anything and all they do is cry about free beer to convert this place into something it isn't. You dont have to know or like the inside jokes to post here. But if all you are going to do is complain about them then you will get ran.People just need to post and have fun. Not worry about what the majority of threads are, up/down votes, or these "circle jerks". The internet isn't serious yet some make it out to be that way.So just post and STFU about how you perceive how this place should look like. If you dont like it go find another site or create your own board. No one is trying to convert anything to anything else. No one is telling DJ to moderate. People are here for a reason. But it is true, there is an obsession with DMC among some posters and 81% of the people are turned off by the same joke 23 times.Lol. That is actually exactly what you are doing... way to speak for the majority of the board too. Keep doing your thing of not actually posting anything and complaining about the complaining though. You are just adding more fuel to the fire.
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This site has already replaced DMC, and is becoming a more accurate representation of the fan base by the day. DJ is still butthurt about Kim ruining his rep years ago and taking away HIS access. And Kim is butthurt about DJ ruining his rep in the present day and taking away HIS access. The similarities are striking and I am surprised that some of the more astute posters here don't recognize what's really going on. First it was Harv banned for scaring off new posters, then it was more cockus banned for making fun of PLSS, then it was monroe banned for giving DJ a proverbial middle finger. See a pattern here? I do. The pussification of HH is complete and it was over before you knew it. Same as it ever was.Respect da bidness. I'm out.
My sure fire method of not reading a thread that I know will annoy me is by not clicking on it. Hasn't failed me yet.And I dont understand the whole "weeding through" complaint either. If people were posting 100 threads a hour then sure. But classifying 20 doogman threads as weeding? Give me a break. You have clearly forgotten the He_Needs_More_Cock Era. He posted a lot but it wasn't like he flooded the board with hundreds of threads. I had 0 issues with Cockus (he was a really good poster) besides when he got overly pissy and made certain threads hard to watch. Complaining about certain posters and threads is no worse than the abundance of doogman posts. Saying stuff like "in order for this site to grow" is basically like telling DJ to start playing the role of Kim and moderating more heavily to try and swing more posters over here (which has clearly been working great for Kim).This site has been growing fine the way it is. Sure some people will get ran, but for the most part this place is pretty open to all kinds of posters. The ones that dont last are the ones who constantly complain about how this place should be "in order to grow". They dont try to add anything and all they do is cry about free beer to convert this place into something it isn't. You dont have to know or like the inside jokes to post here. But if all you are going to do is complain about them then you will get ran.People just need to post and have fun. Not worry about what the majority of threads are, up/down votes, or these "circle jerks". The internet isn't serious yet some make it out to be that way.So just post and STFU about how you perceive how this place should look like. If you dont like it go find another site or create your own board. No one is trying to convert anything to anything else. No one is telling DJ to moderate. People are here for a reason. But it is true, there is an obsession with DMC among some posters and 81% of the people are turned off by the same joke 23 times.Lol. That is actually exactly what you are doing... way to speak for the majority of the board too. Keep doing your thing of not actually posting anything and complaining about the complaining though. You are just adding more fuel to the fire. This is the same shit he did on dawgbored, IIRC. Rinse. Lather. Repeat.
This site has already replaced DMC, and is becoming a more accurate representation of the fan base by the day. DJ is still butthurt about Kim ruining his rep years ago and taking away HIS access. And Kim is butthurt about DJ ruining his rep in the present day and taking away HIS access. The similarities are striking and I am surprised that some of the more astute posters here don't recognize what's really going on. First it was Harv banned for scaring off new posters, then it was more cockus banned for making fun of PLSS, then it was monroe banned for giving DJ a proverbial middle finger. See a pattern here? I do. The pussification of HH is complete and it was over before you knew it. Same as it ever was.Respect da bidness. I'm out. You think you know, but you don't. Swing and a miss on many things in that post. Stick to running dawgboard.com
Here is what I see happening. DJ begins to realize by looking at internal numbers (just made that up) that it is really the Road Sluts that drive 80 percent of the traffic here (in reality it is just Koop refreshing the page 53 times per minute to go for epic JO sessions). I start getting a weekly feature article to really showcase the whores. Donations skyrocket. The Bored of Directors votes to give me royalties, say 81 dollars a month.I use the money to buy Hot Pockets in bulk, and go into a catatonic stupor after ingesting 23 Hot Pockets at once. I never recover. The Sluts are dead. I'm dead. And Sven takes out his frstration by pouring napalm on all the Vanilla servers and burning this mother fucker down. The end.
Here's what's funny about you. When you first came over here last year from the dawgbored, you tentatively PM'd me asking if it was okay that you were here. I said of course, why do you ask? You said that you had been a big part of the dawgboard and took its demise pretty badly. You said that there had been a war of words with several HHBs, and you weren't sure that you would be welcome here.
This site has already replaced DMC, and is becoming a more accurate representation of the fan base by the day. DJ is still butthurt about Kim ruining his rep years ago and taking away HIS access. And Kim is butthurt about DJ ruining his rep in the present day and taking away HIS access. The similarities are striking and I am surprised that some of the more astute posters here don't recognize what's really going on. First it was Harv banned for scaring off new posters, then it was more cockus banned for making fun of PLSS, then it was monroe banned for giving DJ a proverbial middle finger. See a pattern here? I do. The pussification of HH is complete and it was over before you knew it. Same as it ever was.Respect da bidness. I'm out. Here's what's funny about you. When you first came over here last year from the dawgbored, you tentatively PM'd me asking if it was okay that you were here. I said of course, why do you ask? You said that you had been a big part of the dawgboard and took its demise pretty badly. You said that there had been a war of words with several HHBs, and you weren't sure that you would be welcome here. And what did I tell you? I said that I was the founder here and that you were welcome anytime, don't worry about what anyone else might say. Just post and have fun.Now you accuse me of banning people for simply insulting me, which isn't true. If it was true, I would have banned you many months ago for all your whining. But you're still here.
This site has already replaced DMC, and is becoming a more accurate representation of the fan base by the day. DJ is still butthurt about Kim ruining his rep years ago and taking away HIS access. And Kim is butthurt about DJ ruining his rep in the present day and taking away HIS access. The similarities are striking and I am surprised that some of the more astute posters here don't recognize what's really going on. First it was Harv banned for scaring off new posters, then it was more cockus banned for making fun of PLSS, then it was monroe banned for giving DJ a proverbial middle finger. See a pattern here? I do. The pussification of HH is complete and it was over before you knew it. Same as it ever was.Respect da bidness. I'm out. Here's what's funny about you. When you first came over here last year from the dawgbored, you tentatively PM'd me asking if it was okay that you were here. I said of course, why do you ask? You said that you had been a big part of the dawgboard and took its demise pretty badly. You said that there had been a war of words with several HHBs, and you weren't sure that you would be welcome here. And what did I tell you? I said that I was the founder here and that you were welcome anytime, don't worry about what anyone else might say. Just post and have fun.Now you accuse me of banning people for simply insulting me, which isn't true. If it was true, I would have banned you many months ago for all your whining. But you're still here. So you're saying we can insult you all we want with no repercussions?
This site has already replaced DMC, and is becoming a more accurate representation of the fan base by the day. DJ is still butthurt about Kim ruining his rep years ago and taking away HIS access. And Kim is butthurt about DJ ruining his rep in the present day and taking away HIS access. The similarities are striking and I am surprised that some of the more astute posters here don't recognize what's really going on. First it was Harv banned for scaring off new posters, then it was more cockus banned for making fun of PLSS, then it was monroe banned for giving DJ a proverbial middle finger. See a pattern here? I do. The pussification of HH is complete and it was over before you knew it. Same as it ever was.Respect da bidness. I'm out. You think you know, but you don't. Swing and a miss on many things in that post. Stick to running dawgboard.com Judging by your response, I'd say I was spot on. Thanks for reading. Have you decided which one of you guys gets to be Fetters? Abundance?