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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,168
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.


    After covid everything is a grand conspiracy to the Tug.

    You hate to see it.

    The lizard people!!
  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,600
    edited May 2023
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,701 Standard Supporter

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    Stop the bullshit. My trigger pullers that fly said we're fucked we have a weeks supply if the shit hits the fan. Then we are FUBAR.

    Screw the midget Nazi supporting scum that fuels the DNC!
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,168
    Sledog said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    Stop the bullshit. My trigger pullers that fly said we're fucked we have a weeks supply if the shit hits the fan. Then we are FUBAR.

    Screw the midget Nazi supporting scum that fuels the DNC!
    Advanced autism
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    edited May 2023

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.


    After covid everything is a grand conspiracy to the Tug.

    You hate to see it.

    The lizard people!!



  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,168

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.


    After covid everything is a grand conspiracy to the Tug.

    You hate to see it.

    The lizard people!!
    The military industrial complex and endless wars is not a conspiracy.

    Neither is Russia invading Eastern Europe for land
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.


    After covid everything is a grand conspiracy to the Tug.

    You hate to see it.

    The lizard people!!
    The military industrial complex and endless wars is not a conspiracy.

    Neither is Russia invading Eastern Europe for land
    Neither is the invasion of our southern border. Five million illegals under Slo Joe > 150,000 Russians.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,168

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.


    After covid everything is a grand conspiracy to the Tug.

    You hate to see it.

    The lizard people!!
    The military industrial complex and endless wars is not a conspiracy.

    Neither is Russia invading Eastern Europe for land
    Neither is the invasion of our southern border. Five million illegals under Slo Joe > 150,000 Russians.
    I agree that the southern border situation is a clusterfuck.

    Ive said this multiple times.

    The US has the ability to do more than one thing at once.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,701 Standard Supporter

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.


    After covid everything is a grand conspiracy to the Tug.

    You hate to see it.

    The lizard people!!
    The military industrial complex and endless wars is not a conspiracy.

    Neither is Russia invading Eastern Europe for land
    Neither is the invasion of our southern border. Five million illegals under Slo Joe > 150,000 Russians.
    I agree that the southern border situation is a clusterfuck.

    Ive said this multiple times.

    The US has the ability to do more than one thing at once.
    The guys you are currently supporting hate America and are working to destroy it. Cheer them on!
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.


    After covid everything is a grand conspiracy to the Tug.

    You hate to see it.

    The lizard people!!
    The military industrial complex and endless wars is not a conspiracy.

    Neither is Russia invading Eastern Europe for land
    Neither is the invasion of our southern border. Five million illegals under Slo Joe > 150,000 Russians.
    I agree that the southern border situation is a clusterfuck.

    Ive said this multiple times.

    The US has the ability to do more than one thing at once.
    The guys you are currently supporting hate America and are working to destroy it and the Ukraine. Cheer them on!
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,215 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2023

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.


    After covid everything is a grand conspiracy to the Tug.

    You hate to see it.

    The lizard people!!
    The military industrial complex and endless wars is not a conspiracy.

    Neither is Russia invading Eastern Europe for land
    Neither is the invasion of our southern border. Five million illegals under Slo Joe > 150,000 Russians.
    I agree that the southern border situation is a clusterfuck.

    Ive said this multiple times.

    The US has the ability to do more than one thing at once.
    Right now we’re doing nothing about the more important thing while pretending to do something but actually doing something that’s not enough for the other thing that we? made possible by years of bad FP with Russia and China as well as a complete abdication of responsibility to the American people with regard to energy policy….

    Tell me I’m wrong.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    You guys would be arguing that the US shouldve stayed loyal to the crown.

    The people of Ukraine said no to Russian fuckery. Its evident by how they are currently resisting Russian fuckery.

    Doesn't justify giving them over 100 billion

    We probably give them more than we give to Israel at this point
    Most of the shit we gave them is old equipment left over from Iraq 20 years ago.

    Meh.
    So fucking what.

    If I give you a pistol made in 1970 to go kill my neighbor that makes a shit bit of difference when the police come knocking?

    Most retarded logic ever.

    I know it saddens you that Russia is not able to pacify Ukraine.

    It's like the US struggling to take Tijuana.

    Ridiculous.

    Also, your analogy is as stupid as you are. This is like giving your neighor an old glock to defend their house against a home invasion with an AK.

    Dipshit.
    Look dumbfuck, this was never about Ukraine. That’s the part of this your pea brain doesn’t seem to grasp.

    Ukraine is merely the pawn the West sent off to die.

    But you hold on to your blue and yellow flag, old weapons, and ‘Putin is literally Hitler’ because you can’t tell the difference between your “sources” and the globalist elite agenda.

    One would have thought you might have figured it out watching the media the last three years, but clearly you are making diamonds somewhere in that dense fog you live in.


    After covid everything is a grand conspiracy to the Tug.

    You hate to see it.

    The lizard people!!
    The military industrial complex and endless wars is not a conspiracy.

    Neither is Russia invading Eastern Europe for land
    Neither is the invasion of our southern border. Five million illegals under Slo Joe > 150,000 Russians.
    I agree that the southern border situation is a clusterfuck.

    Ive said this multiple times.

    The US has the ability to do more than one thing at once.
    Right now we’re doing nothing about the more important thing while pretending to do something but actually doing something that’s not enough for the other thing that we? made possible by years of bad FP with Russia and China as well as a complete abdication of responsibility to the American people with regard to energy policy….

    Tell me I’m wrong.

  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club

    @RobertKennedyJr explains that the U.S. military-industrial complex's goal is to prolong the War in Urakine, maximizing the loss of lives while continuing to expand NATO and advocating for regime change in Russia:

    "This is no longer a humanitarian mission, and all the decisions the United States has made since the start has been about prolonging the war, maximizing the violence of the war, and being absolutely intransigent against the many opportunities to actually settle the war. My understanding of the war is not that Zelensky is pushing this war as hard as he can but that the neocons in the White House want this war. They want regime change with the Russians. They want to exhaust the Russian army.

    That's what Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in 2022, our objective is to exhaust and degrade Russian forces so they cannot fight anywhere else. President Biden acknowledged that one of his objectives in the war was regime change in Russia and removing Vladimir Putin. If those are the objectives, that is the opposite of a humanitarian mission. That is a mission to maximalize casualties to prolong the war. It's essentially a war of attrition, and that's what we are seeing, and the brunt of this is being paid by the flower of Ukrainian youth.

    This is something that the Ukrainian government and the United States government have worked hard to hide, the number of catastrophic casualties. This is the most violent conflict since World War II that's probably occurred anywhere worldwide, and the casualties are enormous. Over 300,000 Ukrainians are dead... The real story starts in 2014 when the U.S. government and, in particular, the neocons in the White House and elsewhere participated and supported the violent overthrow, a coup de tat, against the democratically elected government of Ukraine and put in a very, very anti-Russian government.

    This prompted the Russians, who believed the U.S. Navy would be invited into the Black Sea to have a port in Crimea. It prompted the Russians to pre-emptively invade Crimea. At the same time, the government that came into Ukraine began enacting a series of laws that turned the Russian populations of the Donbas region into second-class citizens. They essentially criminalized their culture and language and ultimately began killing them. They killed 14,000 of them, prompting a civil war in the country. And the Russian response was illegal; I have no sympathy towards Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin is a gangster and a thug, but his response to the Donbas is not irrational...

    We have been doing integrative military exercises with the Ukrainian military. We were actively integrating them into NATO forces. There's no question. The one thing Putin said from the onset is that this is the redline... We're putting these intermediate missile systems all along the Russian border. Romania, Poland, and in Ukraine, and those missiles can hit Moscow in a few minutes... We should be de-escalating these provocations... George Tenet asked after the Soviet Union collapsed, why do we even have NATO anymore? Why don't we do a Marshall Plan for Russia?

    We won the war; they are the losers and admit they are the losers. They want to join the European community. Let's make it easy for them. Let's not continue to treat them as if they are the enemy because that is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and that is, unfortunately, what we did... Why are we trying to expand NATO? We gave our word that we would not expand NATO one inch to the east, and now we've gone into thirteen countries. It is a provocation."

    The full episode with

    @theallinpod
    :
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nA0OXZuaG0g



    @PostGameOrangeSlices

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,641 Founders Club
    The 2014 coup was already debunked is what I was told.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,168
    pawz said:


    @RobertKennedyJr explains that the U.S. military-industrial complex's goal is to prolong the War in Urakine, maximizing the loss of lives while continuing to expand NATO and advocating for regime change in Russia:

    "This is no longer a humanitarian mission, and all the decisions the United States has made since the start has been about prolonging the war, maximizing the violence of the war, and being absolutely intransigent against the many opportunities to actually settle the war. My understanding of the war is not that Zelensky is pushing this war as hard as he can but that the neocons in the White House want this war. They want regime change with the Russians. They want to exhaust the Russian army.

    That's what Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in 2022, our objective is to exhaust and degrade Russian forces so they cannot fight anywhere else. President Biden acknowledged that one of his objectives in the war was regime change in Russia and removing Vladimir Putin. If those are the objectives, that is the opposite of a humanitarian mission. That is a mission to maximalize casualties to prolong the war. It's essentially a war of attrition, and that's what we are seeing, and the brunt of this is being paid by the flower of Ukrainian youth.

    This is something that the Ukrainian government and the United States government have worked hard to hide, the number of catastrophic casualties. This is the most violent conflict since World War II that's probably occurred anywhere worldwide, and the casualties are enormous. Over 300,000 Ukrainians are dead... The real story starts in 2014 when the U.S. government and, in particular, the neocons in the White House and elsewhere participated and supported the violent overthrow, a coup de tat, against the democratically elected government of Ukraine and put in a very, very anti-Russian government.

    This prompted the Russians, who believed the U.S. Navy would be invited into the Black Sea to have a port in Crimea. It prompted the Russians to pre-emptively invade Crimea. At the same time, the government that came into Ukraine began enacting a series of laws that turned the Russian populations of the Donbas region into second-class citizens. They essentially criminalized their culture and language and ultimately began killing them. They killed 14,000 of them, prompting a civil war in the country. And the Russian response was illegal; I have no sympathy towards Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin is a gangster and a thug, but his response to the Donbas is not irrational...

    We have been doing integrative military exercises with the Ukrainian military. We were actively integrating them into NATO forces. There's no question. The one thing Putin said from the onset is that this is the redline... We're putting these intermediate missile systems all along the Russian border. Romania, Poland, and in Ukraine, and those missiles can hit Moscow in a few minutes... We should be de-escalating these provocations... George Tenet asked after the Soviet Union collapsed, why do we even have NATO anymore? Why don't we do a Marshall Plan for Russia?

    We won the war; they are the losers and admit they are the losers. They want to join the European community. Let's make it easy for them. Let's not continue to treat them as if they are the enemy because that is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and that is, unfortunately, what we did... Why are we trying to expand NATO? We gave our word that we would not expand NATO one inch to the east, and now we've gone into thirteen countries. It is a provocation."

    The full episode with

    @theallinpod
    :
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nA0OXZuaG0g



    @PostGameOrangeSlices

    Disagree
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,168
    That is certainly a take.

    It's the US killing them, not Russia.

    Huge brain dialogue
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    Zelensky dick sucker
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029

    pawz said:


    @RobertKennedyJr explains that the U.S. military-industrial complex's goal is to prolong the War in Urakine, maximizing the loss of lives while continuing to expand NATO and advocating for regime change in Russia:

    "This is no longer a humanitarian mission, and all the decisions the United States has made since the start has been about prolonging the war, maximizing the violence of the war, and being absolutely intransigent against the many opportunities to actually settle the war. My understanding of the war is not that Zelensky is pushing this war as hard as he can but that the neocons in the White House want this war. They want regime change with the Russians. They want to exhaust the Russian army.

    That's what Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in 2022, our objective is to exhaust and degrade Russian forces so they cannot fight anywhere else. President Biden acknowledged that one of his objectives in the war was regime change in Russia and removing Vladimir Putin. If those are the objectives, that is the opposite of a humanitarian mission. That is a mission to maximalize casualties to prolong the war. It's essentially a war of attrition, and that's what we are seeing, and the brunt of this is being paid by the flower of Ukrainian youth.

    This is something that the Ukrainian government and the United States government have worked hard to hide, the number of catastrophic casualties. This is the most violent conflict since World War II that's probably occurred anywhere worldwide, and the casualties are enormous. Over 300,000 Ukrainians are dead... The real story starts in 2014 when the U.S. government and, in particular, the neocons in the White House and elsewhere participated and supported the violent overthrow, a coup de tat, against the democratically elected government of Ukraine and put in a very, very anti-Russian government.

    This prompted the Russians, who believed the U.S. Navy would be invited into the Black Sea to have a port in Crimea. It prompted the Russians to pre-emptively invade Crimea. At the same time, the government that came into Ukraine began enacting a series of laws that turned the Russian populations of the Donbas region into second-class citizens. They essentially criminalized their culture and language and ultimately began killing them. They killed 14,000 of them, prompting a civil war in the country. And the Russian response was illegal; I have no sympathy towards Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin is a gangster and a thug, but his response to the Donbas is not irrational...

    We have been doing integrative military exercises with the Ukrainian military. We were actively integrating them into NATO forces. There's no question. The one thing Putin said from the onset is that this is the redline... We're putting these intermediate missile systems all along the Russian border. Romania, Poland, and in Ukraine, and those missiles can hit Moscow in a few minutes... We should be de-escalating these provocations... George Tenet asked after the Soviet Union collapsed, why do we even have NATO anymore? Why don't we do a Marshall Plan for Russia?

    We won the war; they are the losers and admit they are the losers. They want to join the European community. Let's make it easy for them. Let's not continue to treat them as if they are the enemy because that is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and that is, unfortunately, what we did... Why are we trying to expand NATO? We gave our word that we would not expand NATO one inch to the east, and now we've gone into thirteen countries. It is a provocation."

    The full episode with

    @theallinpod
    :
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nA0OXZuaG0g



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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    pawz said:

    @RobertKennedyJr explains that the U.S. military-industrial complex's goal is to prolong the War in Urakine, maximizing the loss of lives while continuing to expand NATO and advocating for regime change in Russia:

    "This is no longer a humanitarian mission, and all the decisions the United States has made since the start has been about prolonging the war, maximizing the violence of the war, and being absolutely intransigent against the many opportunities to actually settle the war. My understanding of the war is not that Zelensky is pushing this war as hard as he can but that the neocons in the White House want this war. They want regime change with the Russians. They want to exhaust the Russian army.

    That's what Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in 2022, our objective is to exhaust and degrade Russian forces so they cannot fight anywhere else. President Biden acknowledged that one of his objectives in the war was regime change in Russia and removing Vladimir Putin. If those are the objectives, that is the opposite of a humanitarian mission. That is a mission to maximalize casualties to prolong the war. It's essentially a war of attrition, and that's what we are seeing, and the brunt of this is being paid by the flower of Ukrainian youth.

    This is something that the Ukrainian government and the United States government have worked hard to hide, the number of catastrophic casualties. This is the most violent conflict since World War II that's probably occurred anywhere worldwide, and the casualties are enormous. Over 300,000 Ukrainians are dead... The real story starts in 2014 when the U.S. government and, in particular, the neocons in the White House and elsewhere participated and supported the violent overthrow, a coup de tat, against the democratically elected government of Ukraine and put in a very, very anti-Russian government.

    This prompted the Russians, who believed the U.S. Navy would be invited into the Black Sea to have a port in Crimea. It prompted the Russians to pre-emptively invade Crimea. At the same time, the government that came into Ukraine began enacting a series of laws that turned the Russian populations of the Donbas region into second-class citizens. They essentially criminalized their culture and language and ultimately began killing them. They killed 14,000 of them, prompting a civil war in the country. And the Russian response was illegal; I have no sympathy towards Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin is a gangster and a thug, but his response to the Donbas is not irrational...

    We have been doing integrative military exercises with the Ukrainian military. We were actively integrating them into NATO forces. There's no question. The one thing Putin said from the onset is that this is the redline... We're putting these intermediate missile systems all along the Russian border. Romania, Poland, and in Ukraine, and those missiles can hit Moscow in a few minutes... We should be de-escalating these provocations... George Tenet asked after the Soviet Union collapsed, why do we even have NATO anymore? Why don't we do a Marshall Plan for Russia?

    We won the war; they are the losers and admit they are the losers. They want to join the European community. Let's make it easy for them. Let's not continue to treat them as if they are the enemy because that is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and that is, unfortunately, what we did... Why are we trying to expand NATO? We gave our word that we would not expand NATO one inch to the east, and now we've gone into thirteen countries. It is a provocation."

    The full episode with

    @theallinpod
    :
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nA0OXZuaG0g

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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    113 pages in and still can’t see the forest for the trees.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    edited May 2023

    That is certainly a take.

    It's the US killing them, not Russia.

    Huge brain dialogue
    -Putin is literally Hitler

    -We must protect DeMoCrAcY!

    -Ukraine is a sovereign country

    -It’s only our old weapons

    -Ukraine is winning

    -Spring offensive


    That about cover it for the Mensa application?