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Tucker: We are being lied to about the Ukraine war

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  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2023
    I disagree with Tucker here, he isn't a whistle-blower he is a kid who wanted to brag...
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,663
    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,663
    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
    State media = credible. Hawt take.

    Do you think the US govt intends to prosecute Julian Assange and Edward Snowden for releasing fabricated information? Or just the 21 year old kid who received information under suspicious pretenses?



  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,663
    even Russia itself does not inflate the casualty rate as 1/ 7, Russia/Ukraine! Don't take that guy seriously (also his hair color looks dyed and fake)
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,066
    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Do tell. Or you playing the @MelloDawgFS shit post and run game?

    Who the fuck cares whether it is 2:1 or 3:1 or 99:1? The point is the reality of what is happening is UKR is NOT what is being reported. The lack of information and reporting is intentional.

    Go educate yourself in the 100 page thread. This has been foretold in the Tug for over a year.

    Hell, OBK was out front of it for a couple years.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
    Who are the most credible sources? Name one.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    even Russia itself does not inflate the casualty rate as 1/ 7, Russia/Ukraine! Don't take that guy seriously (also his hair color looks dyed and fake)

    How do you know that? Have you been using a VPN to access RT?

    That could get you 20 years under proposed federal law.


    Then you deflect to Tucker’s hair, which we? call a tell.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,066
    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
    Who are the most credible sources? Name one.
    Anybody other than @PostGameOrangeSlices

  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    Goduckies said:

    I disagree with Tucker here, he isn't a whistle-blower he is a kid who wanted to brag...

    Does it fucking matter? What government propaganda won't you believe? Well son of a bitch.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
    Who are the most credible sources? Name one.
    Anybody other than @PostGameOrangeSlices

    Baghdad Bob had his finger closer to the pulse.
  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,600
    edited April 2023
    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes

    Ummmm
    We don't get classified info in pentagon reports because it's " CLASSIFIED "
    We only get what has been scrubbed clean and
    we definitely don't get information that shows our government is doing something they shouldn't.

    That's the whole point of why this leak is damaging.
    We are being fed propaganda to keep support for a military campaign that we shouldn't be involved in orchestrated by politicians who have their hand in a cookie jar and are trying to cover up the rest of the story they don't want you to know using media outlets who are no longer loyal to the American people but are running cover for the corruption..

    Look look, we got the leaker, pay no attention to what he leaked!

    A 21 yo nation guardsman outsmarted the pentagon and the CIA for weeks?

    The media already reported it was Russia

    Cmon now, this must be a Matthew Broderick movie about a teenager playing war games.


  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    State Media confirmed vis a vis downvote.


  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Blueduck said:

    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes

    Ummmm
    We don't get classified info in pentagon reports because it's " CLASSIFIED "
    We only get what has been scrubbed clean and
    we definitely don't get information that shows our government is doing something they shouldn't.

    That's the whole point of why this leak is damaging.
    We are being fed propaganda to keep support for a military campaign that we shouldn't be involved in orchestrated by politicians who have their hand in a cookie jar and are trying to cover up the rest of the story they don't want you to know using media outlets who are no longer loyal to the American people but are running cover for the corruption..

    Look look, we got the leaker, pay no attention to what he leaked!

    A 21 yo nation guardsman outsmarted the pentagon and the CIA for weeks?

    The media already reported it was Russia

    Cmon now, this must be a Matthew Broderick movie about a teenager playing war games.


    The “media” especially the NYT and WaPo have reported exactly what the Pentagon wants them reporting. Glenn Greenwald has a long Twitter takedown on how compromised they are.
  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,600
    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes
    We don't get classified info in pentagon reports, only what has been scrubbed clean ..

    That's the whole point
    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes

    Ummmm
    We don't get classified info in pentagon reports because it's " CLASSIFIED "
    We only get what has been scrubbed clean and
    we definitely don't get information that shows our government is doing something they shouldn't.

    That's the whole point of why this leak is damaging.
    We are being fed propaganda to keep support for a military campaign that we shouldn't be involved in orchestrated by politicians who have their hand in a cookie jar and are trying to cover up the rest of the story they don't want you to know using media outlets who are no longer loyal to the American people but are running cover for the corruption..

    Look look, we got the leaker, pay no attention to what he leaked!

    A 21 yo nation guardsman outsmarted the pentagon and the CIA for weeks?

    The media already reported it was Russia

    Cmon now, this must be a Matthew Broderick movie about a teenager playing war games.


    The “media” especially the NYT and WaPo have reported exactly what the Pentagon wants them reporting. Glenn Greenwald has a long Twitter takedown on how compromised they are.
    Exactly the point, the media is cooperating with the state, they no longer work for the people,
    (see 2012 Smith-Mundt modernization act)

    Even Tucker is on a leash, you saw how fast the J6 video was stopped when Schmucky called on Rupert Murdock to pull the plug on Tucker!
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes

    Ummmm
    We don't get classified info in pentagon reports because it's " CLASSIFIED "
    We only get what has been scrubbed clean and
    we definitely don't get information that shows our government is doing something they shouldn't.

    That's the whole point of why this leak is damaging.
    We are being fed propaganda to keep support for a military campaign that we shouldn't be involved in orchestrated by politicians who have their hand in a cookie jar and are trying to cover up the rest of the story they don't want you to know using media outlets who are no longer loyal to the American people but are running cover for the corruption..

    Look look, we got the leaker, pay no attention to what he leaked!

    A 21 yo nation guardsman outsmarted the pentagon and the CIA for weeks?

    The media already reported it was Russia

    Cmon now, this must be a Matthew Broderick movie about a teenager playing war games.


    The “media” especially the NYT and WaPo have reported exactly what the Pentagon wants them reporting. Glenn Greenwald has a long Twitter takedown on how compromised they are.
    He has a daily show on Rumble called System Update. His takedown was there before it was on Twitter.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,066
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
    Who are the most credible sources? Name one.
    Anybody other than @PostGameOrangeSlices

    Baghdad Bob had his finger closer to the pulse.
    We’ll always have Moldova.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    I guess the BidenBros were sucking to hard to hear "no American troops in Ukraine" all those tims. But then they are so experienced they sound like a Hoover sucking a horsehair sofa.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,066
    Sledog said:

    I guess the BidenBros were sucking to hard to hear "no American troops in Ukraine" all those tims. But then they are so experienced they sound like a Hoover sucking a horsehair sofa.

    They’re just “advisors”.

    Just like the “advisors” in Vietnam.

    Except the stakes are much much higher fucking around and finding out in UKR.
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,663
    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
    Who are the most credible sources? Name one.
    Even propaganda does not inflate the casualties ratio to 7 to 1. So the Incredible sources are not even so unbelievable
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited April 2023
    Blueduck said:

    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes
    We don't get classified info in pentagon reports, only what has been scrubbed clean ..

    That's the whole point
    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes

    Ummmm
    We don't get classified info in pentagon reports because it's " CLASSIFIED "
    We only get what has been scrubbed clean and
    we definitely don't get information that shows our government is doing something they shouldn't.

    That's the whole point of why this leak is damaging.
    We are being fed propaganda to keep support for a military campaign that we shouldn't be involved in orchestrated by politicians who have their hand in a cookie jar and are trying to cover up the rest of the story they don't want you to know using media outlets who are no longer loyal to the American people but are running cover for the corruption..

    Look look, we got the leaker, pay no attention to what he leaked!

    A 21 yo nation guardsman outsmarted the pentagon and the CIA for weeks?

    The media already reported it was Russia

    Cmon now, this must be a Matthew Broderick movie about a teenager playing war games.


    The “media” especially the NYT and WaPo have reported exactly what the Pentagon wants them reporting. Glenn Greenwald has a long Twitter takedown on how compromised they are.
    Exactly the point, the media is cooperating with the state, they no longer work for the people,
    (see 2012 Smith-Mundt modernization act)

    Even Tucker is on a leash, you saw how fast the J6 video was stopped when Schmucky called on Rupert Murdock to pull the plug on Tucker!
    Notice how all the other media stopped crying for access to the tapes? Also notice how none of the idiot DIMS like Dazzler were at all curious?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes
    We don't get classified info in pentagon reports, only what has been scrubbed clean ..

    That's the whole point
    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    So our pentagon is wrong with the numbers?

    Just to be clear about your position, are you asking us to believe the numbers the pentagon reports?
    Their classified info, yes

    Ummmm
    We don't get classified info in pentagon reports because it's " CLASSIFIED "
    We only get what has been scrubbed clean and
    we definitely don't get information that shows our government is doing something they shouldn't.

    That's the whole point of why this leak is damaging.
    We are being fed propaganda to keep support for a military campaign that we shouldn't be involved in orchestrated by politicians who have their hand in a cookie jar and are trying to cover up the rest of the story they don't want you to know using media outlets who are no longer loyal to the American people but are running cover for the corruption..

    Look look, we got the leaker, pay no attention to what he leaked!

    A 21 yo nation guardsman outsmarted the pentagon and the CIA for weeks?

    The media already reported it was Russia

    Cmon now, this must be a Matthew Broderick movie about a teenager playing war games.


    The “media” especially the NYT and WaPo have reported exactly what the Pentagon wants them reporting. Glenn Greenwald has a long Twitter takedown on how compromised they are.
    Exactly the point, the media is cooperating with the state, they no longer work for the people,
    (see 2012 Smith-Mundt modernization act)

    Even Tucker is on a leash, you saw how fast the J6 video was stopped when Schmucky called on Rupert Murdock to pull the plug on Tucker!
    Notice how all the other media stopped crying for access to the tapes? Also notice how none of the idiot DIMS like Dazzler were at all curious?
    The Dazzler: "Brady Rule?"
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
    Who are the most credible sources? Name one.
    Even propaganda does not inflate the casualties ratio to 7 to 1. So the Incredible sources are not even so unbelievable
    Huh?

    Glad you were able to identify a credible source for us.

  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,600
    edited April 2023
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Epicness on the call out!
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
    Who are the most credible sources? Name one.
    Even propaganda does not inflate the casualties ratio to 7 to 1. So the Incredible sources are not even so unbelievable
    How do we determine a credible source in something like this?
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,663
    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    pawz said:

    AOG said:

    Lots of fallacies and twisting in there

    Please, tell us all about what State Media told you.

    If you look at the map note Ukraine has reclaimed a great deal of territory. That means that they have not been losing... The loss of soldiers is not 7 Ukraine to 1 Russia by all credible reports. If that were true Ukraine would be defeated long ago given the size of respective armies. Etc
    Who are the most credible sources? Name one.
    Even propaganda does not inflate the casualties ratio to 7 to 1. So the Incredible sources are not even so unbelievable
    How do we determine a credible source in something like this?

    They can research based upon factors such as funeral announcement and social media. All estimates are fallible of course. A wild outlier guess unsourced completely like Tucker is not