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Steve Emtman - Greatest Defensive Lineman in Pac-12 History

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  • Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,850
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    Why are we back to talking about NFL careers? Emtman was a better college player than Cortez, too.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,706
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    Why are we back to talking about NFL careers? Emtman was a better college player than Cortez, too.

    2 rings > 1 ring. @RaceBannon

    But I will concede that Emtman had more class than Kennedy, at least in college. Compare/contrast. Vulgarity vs. Pure Jubilation. The wrong way vs. the right way.





    Not even close IMO. Emtman waaay classier.


  • EwaDawgEwaDawg Member Posts: 3,989
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    dtd said:

    In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.



    I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8

    At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.

    Some things to consider:

    NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
    3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
    2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
    8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
    NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
    PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
    Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
    Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
    2× National champion (1987, 1989)
    Consensus All-American (1989)
    Pro FB Hall of Fame
    I saw him dunk a basketball

    I don't recall where he played in college, but I don't think it was the Pac 10. Word is he wanted to be a Husky but didn't have the grades and was afraid of the competition.

    Why are we back to talking about NFL careers? Emtman was a better college player than Cortez, too.

    Because said poasters are trying to support an unsupportable poont.

    HTH
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    dnc said:

    dtd said:

    In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.



    I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8

    At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.

    Some things to consider:

    NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
    3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
    2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
    8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
    NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
    PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
    Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
    Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
    2× National champion (1987, 1989)
    Consensus All-American (1989)
    Pro FB Hall of Fame
    I saw him dunk a basketball

    I don't recall where he played in college, but I don't think it was the Pac 10. Word is he wanted to be a Husky but didn't have the grades and was afraid of the competition.

    I know Wiki says he won a natty in 87 but he was at Northwest MS CC in 87 (#MyRangers). Unless Northwest won a CC natty then Tez only had one natty ring.
    Bully!
    True.

    Also #MississippiCCSuperiorityGuy
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,706
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    edited March 2023
    dnc said:

    dtd said:

    In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.



    I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8

    At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.

    Some things to consider:

    NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
    3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
    2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
    8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
    NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
    PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
    Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
    Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
    2× National champion (1987, 1989)
    Consensus All-American (1989)
    Pro FB Hall of Fame
    I saw him dunk a basketball

    I don't recall where he played in college, but I don't think it was the Pac 10. Word is he wanted to be a Husky but didn't have the grades and was afraid of the competition.

    I know Wiki says he won a natty in 87 but he was at Northwest MS CC in 87 (#MyRangers). Unless Northwest won a CC natty then Tez only had one natty ring.
    If it's on Wiki, it's real.



    Besides, Miami was the best team in the country in 1988 too, so I'm going to pull an old Husky trick and call 1988 a Natty. No, Cleveland Gary didn't fumble. Christ.

    So by the authority of Wiki and the power vested in my, I'm saying 3 ringz now.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,220
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    I knew this thread was going to get creep all spooled up.

    lol
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    dnc said:

    dtd said:

    In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.



    I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8

    At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.

    Some things to consider:

    NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
    3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
    2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
    8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
    NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
    PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
    Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
    Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
    2× National champion (1987, 1989)
    Consensus All-American (1989)
    Pro FB Hall of Fame
    I saw him dunk a basketball

    I don't recall where he played in college, but I don't think it was the Pac 10. Word is he wanted to be a Husky but didn't have the grades and was afraid of the competition.

    I know Wiki says he won a natty in 87 but he was at Northwest MS CC in 87 (#MyRangers). Unless Northwest won a CC natty then Tez only had one natty ring.
    If it's on Wiki, it's real.



    Besides, Miami was the best team in the country in 1988 too, so I'm going to pull an old Husky trick and call 1988 a Natty. No, Cleveland Gary didn't fumble. Christ.

    So by the authority of Wiki and the power vested in my, I'm saying 3 ringz now.
    Fun Fact: Micheal Irvin wanted to be a Husky
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,706
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    dnc said:

    dtd said:

    In Haloti's defense, and I'm not debating here, because there isn't one to be had, but it's not at all a fair comparison. Haloti was a 0 tech 2 gap 3-4 NT most downs. How many modern NFL HoFers are there at that position? Wilfork? Ted Washington? Stan was a wrecking ball who shot gaps and ran TE stunts, and he was a way better college football player, but Haloti was a better Virta Via.



    I like defensive linemen who do both. This guy could stuff and hold the middle and get after the QB like a bitch. Better than store-bought donuts and Mormon Polys IMO.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTycAlWhrt8

    At the 1:14 mark, All-Time Husky great Warren Moon says Stan Empterman couldn't hold Kennedy's jock, and Oregon's LDS Poly can't do his laundry. Doesn't get more definitive than that.

    Some things to consider:

    NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1992) (on a 2 win team)
    3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
    2× Second-team All-Pro (1991, 1996)
    8× Pro Bowl (1991–1996, 1998, 1999)
    NFL 1990s All-Decade Team
    PFWA All-Rookie Team (1990)
    Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor
    Seattle Seahawks No. 96 retired
    2× National champion (1987, 1989)
    Consensus All-American (1989)
    Pro FB Hall of Fame
    I saw him dunk a basketball

    I don't recall where he played in college, but I don't think it was the Pac 10. Word is he wanted to be a Husky but didn't have the grades and was afraid of the competition.

    I know Wiki says he won a natty in 87 but he was at Northwest MS CC in 87 (#MyRangers). Unless Northwest won a CC natty then Tez only had one natty ring.
    If it's on Wiki, it's real.



    Besides, Miami was the best team in the country in 1988 too, so I'm going to pull an old Husky trick and call 1988 a Natty. No, Cleveland Gary didn't fumble. Christ.

    So by the authority of Wiki and the power vested in my, I'm saying 3 ringz now.
    Fun Fact: Micheal Irvin wanted to be a Husky
    He wanted to, but Don James wanted wide receivers with actual talent.

    #PaulSkansibitch
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,394
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    For the record, Skansi did manage to carve out a 9-year NFL career.
  • EwaDawgEwaDawg Member Posts: 3,989
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    For the record, Skansi did manage to carve out a 9-year NFL career.

    Don't further confuse the confused one with facts. Thank you very much.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,706
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    EwaDawg said:

    For the record, Skansi did manage to carve out a 9-year NFL career.

    Don't further confuse the confused one with facts. Thank you very much.
    You are wandering back to old form. Like when you used to take things that are ostensibly meant as foolish banter personally and seriously. It’s almost as if you think I’m talking about you. I’ve always thought that was weird.

    There are many things that can said of me. Confused about anything that is clear to you is not one of them. Rest easy. I know Paul Skansi was a good receiver. I was around when he played.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,706
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    For the record, Skansi did manage to carve out a 9-year NFL career.

    It is noted for the record.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 59,711
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    EwaDawg said:

    For the record, Skansi did manage to carve out a 9-year NFL career.

    Don't further confuse the confused one with facts. Thank you very much.
    You are wandering back to old form. Like when you used to take things that are ostensibly meant as foolish banter personally and seriously. It’s almost as if you think I’m talking about you. I’ve always thought that was weird.

    There are many things that can said of me. Confused about anything that is clear to you is not one of them. Rest easy. I know Paul Skansi was a good receiver. I was around when he played.
    Paul Skansi wanted to be a Husky
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,709
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    Wes Welker was a Paul Skansi type receiver
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 59,711
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    EwaDawg said:

    For the record, Skansi did manage to carve out a 9-year NFL career.

    Don't further confuse the confused one with facts. Thank you very much.
    You are wandering back to old form. Like when you used to take things that are ostensibly meant as foolish banter personally and seriously. It’s almost as if you think I’m talking about you. I’ve always thought that was weird.

    There are many things that can said of me. Confused about anything that is clear to you is not one of them. Rest easy. I know Paul Skansi was a good receiver. I was around when he played.
    Paul Skansi wanted to be a Husky

    Emtman vs Ngata isn’t even a conversation college speaking. Emptman was conference defensive player of the year as a sophomore. Ngata was second team all conference.

    If you call Suggs a dlineman that’s a convo.

    Great call. Suggs was a terror
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,706
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    Wes Welker was a Paul Skansi type receiver

    Wes Welker wanted to be a Husky. Dad said no; RN too west coast.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,706
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    EwaDawg said:

    For the record, Skansi did manage to carve out a 9-year NFL career.

    Don't further confuse the confused one with facts. Thank you very much.
    You are wandering back to old form. Like when you used to take things that are ostensibly meant as foolish banter personally and seriously. It’s almost as if you think I’m talking about you. I’ve always thought that was weird.

    There are many things that can said of me. Confused about anything that is clear to you is not one of them. Rest easy. I know Paul Skansi was a good receiver. I was around when he played.
    Paul Skansi wanted to be a Husky

    Emtman vs Ngata isn’t even a conversation college speaking. Emptman was conference defensive player of the year as a sophomore. Ngata was second team all conference.

    If you call Suggs a dlineman that’s a convo.

    Great call. Suggs was a terror
    Mom said no. Don James too short.
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