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There will be no discussion of cooking hamburgers on a grill here. That is not barbecue. Nor is it BBQ. That is grilling meat. If you are doing that because people are coming over to your house, that is a cookout. Cookouts and grilling meat on a direct flame are good, fun things, and we should do them, but they are not the same as putting a big ole slab of meat on a smoker for 10+ hours.

There will also be no discussion of ribs in a crockpot.

Anyway, lets discuss. Smokers, cuts, WOOD, spices, whatever.

It's a beautiful day in the DMV and the golf course is closed on Mondays so I'm going to call in to meetings while firing up the Weber Smoky Mountain for a whole chicken and a leg of lamb. Have never done a leg of lamb before (other than one time when a bunch of buddies and I did a whole lamb pit roasted, that was amazing) so will see what happens. Experimenting is fun. The internets indicate that the time it takes to get to medium rare are about the same about of time as a whole chicken, (3 hours). Going with hickory WOOD chunks today.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    I grill therefore I am

    You all go on with you fancy smokers and barbecue. It's good stuff

    That's why I always knew where the best places to buy it are
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    I've done some bone in, legs of lamb in the Weber kettle grill using indirect heat and a bit of hickory wood over the Kingsford.

    The results were excellent.

    My bitch face ex wife was half Greek, so I've seen those Hellenistic bros do an entire lamb on a spit.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    If I like my crockpot, can I keep it?
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    whlinder said:

    There will be no discussion of cooking hamburgers on a grill here. That is not barbecue. Nor is it BBQ. That is grilling meat. If you are doing that because people are coming over to your house, that is a cookout. Cookouts and grilling meat on a direct flame are good, fun things, and we should do them, but they are not the same as putting a big ole slab of meat on a smoker for 10+ hours.

    There will also be no discussion of ribs in a crockpot.

    Anyway, lets discuss. Smokers, cuts, WOOD, spices, whatever.

    It's a beautiful day in the DMV and the golf course is closed on Mondays so I'm going to call in to meetings while firing up the Weber Smoky Mountain for a whole chicken and a leg of lamb. Have never done a leg of lamb before (other than one time when a bunch of buddies and I did a whole lamb pit roasted, that was amazing) so will see what happens. Experimenting is fun. The internets indicate that the time it takes to get to medium rare are about the same about of time as a whole chicken, (3 hours). Going with hickory WOOD chunks today.

    Pics or didn’t happen.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club

    If I like my crockpot, can I keep it?

    Is it a Miele brand crockpot @BennyBeaver ?
  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,871
    I smoke on my big green egg with a flame boss. Excellent results. Been smoking salmon lately as I finally got a good recipe I like. I found a great local place that has a vast selection of wood for cooking.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Standard XMas is taking a full prime rib roast and putting it out on the big egg for however long it takes

    Long and slow off of direct heat is important

    My Dad uses all kinds of wood but I tend to be more partial to apple than richer woods

    Long and slow is the key to anything ...

    Vegi's on the grill is a big time winner as well
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Standard XMas is taking a full prime rib roast and putting it out on the big egg for however long it takes

    Long and slow off of direct heat is important

    My Dad uses all kinds of wood but I tend to be more partial to apple than richer woods

    Long and slow is the key to anything ...

    Vegi's on the grill is a big time winner as well

    PM me @Tequilla for Xmas prime rib thermometer advice. I’ll get you straightened out.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,322 Founders Club
    Can we get back to talking about grilling burgers?
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,310 Standard Supporter
    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,525 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    Standard XMas is taking a full prime rib roast and putting it out on the big egg for however long it takes

    Long and slow off of direct heat is important

    My Dad uses all kinds of wood but I tend to be more partial to apple than richer woods

    Long and slow is the key to anything ...

    Vegi's on the grill is a big time winner as well

    PM me @Tequilla for Xmas prime rib thermometer advice. I’ll get you straightened out.

  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,273
    I heart St. Patrick's day not just for the drinking but because Corned Beef Briskets are plentiful and cheap. Smoked pastrami is one of my favorites.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club

    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.

    Me and @BleachedAnusDawg don't align on some things, but we are both technically proficient Weber kettle grill masters.

    The Weber Kettle grill remains to single most versatile piece of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. It can grill and it can BBQ. You can BBQ a pork shoulder or a brisket in one if you are very careful about controlling the amount of charcoal and airflow.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    whlinder said:

    I heart St. Patrick's day not just for the drinking but because Corned Beef Briskets are plentiful and cheap. Smoked pastrami is one of my favorites.

    Shout out to @Mad_Son


  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,310 Standard Supporter

    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.

    Me and @BleachedAnusDawg don't align on some things, but we are both technically proficient Weber kettle grill masters.

    The Weber Kettle grill remains to single most versatile piece of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. It can grill and it can BBQ. You can BBQ a pork shoulder or a brisket in one if you are very careful about controlling the amount of charcoal and airflow.
    Snake method is the shit for low and slow when doing pork butt or brisket.

    Picked one of these up for indirect bbq. The water break helps to keep it humid and also helps to keep the temperature even. Highly recommend. https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Sear-Original-Charcoal-Grills/dp/B084ZWJ2J1/ref=asc_df_B084ZWJ2J1/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416696576536&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=265508889368940712&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060423&hvtargid=pla-891274866143&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=92049668097&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416696576536&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=265508889368940712&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060423&hvtargid=pla-891274866143
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club

    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.

    Me and @BleachedAnusDawg don't align on some things, but we are both technically proficient Weber kettle grill masters.

    The Weber Kettle grill remains to single most versatile piece of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. It can grill and it can BBQ. You can BBQ a pork shoulder or a brisket in one if you are very careful about controlling the amount of charcoal and airflow.
    Snake method is the shit for low and slow when doing pork butt or brisket.

    Picked one of these up for indirect bbq. The water break helps to keep it humid and also helps to keep the temperature even. Highly recommend. https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Sear-Original-Charcoal-Grills/dp/B084ZWJ2J1/ref=asc_df_B084ZWJ2J1/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416696576536&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=265508889368940712&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060423&hvtargid=pla-891274866143&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=92049668097&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416696576536&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=265508889368940712&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060423&hvtargid=pla-891274866143
    Well that's pretty slick. Might order that. For 20 years now I've just piled some charcoal on one side and put the meat on the other.Put a water pan in the middle. But this system looks easier to manage.

    People also forget you can turn a Weber gas grill into a BBQ as well. Put the back burner on low and leave the other off. This is my system when I wanna cook ribs but I'm being lazy AF.




  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Standard XMas is taking a full prime rib roast and putting it out on the big egg for however long it takes

    Long and slow off of direct heat is important

    My Dad uses all kinds of wood but I tend to be more partial to apple than richer woods

    Long and slow is the key to anything ...

    Vegi's on the grill is a big time winner as well

    PM me @Tequilla for Xmas prime rib thermometer advice. I’ll get you straightened out.
    My step-mom had one job for XMas dinner this year ... ONE JOB

    No running water made the whole holiday season a bit stressful period ... I'll give a mulligan for this year
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    edited March 2023
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Standard XMas is taking a full prime rib roast and putting it out on the big egg for however long it takes

    Long and slow off of direct heat is important

    My Dad uses all kinds of wood but I tend to be more partial to apple than richer woods

    Long and slow is the key to anything ...

    Vegi's on the grill is a big time winner as well

    PM me @Tequilla for Xmas prime rib thermometer advice. I’ll get you straightened out.
    My step-mom had one job for XMas dinner this year ... ONE JOB

    No running water made the whole holiday season a bit stressful period ... I'll give a mulligan for this year
    Well there's your problem. Who in their right mind let's thier M.I.L. - unless she's like Martha Stewart or something - go anywhere near the damn prime rib? Jeebus mang.

    Furthermore, you gotta have a feel for time and oven temp to predict meat temps after a number of hours. You don't wanna be 5 hrs in on a slow roast and realize you're getting bad thermometer reads.
  • Purple_Pills
    Purple_Pills Member Posts: 2,110

    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.

    Me and @BleachedAnusDawg don't align on some things, but we are both technically proficient Weber kettle grill masters.

    The Weber Kettle grill remains to single most versatile piece of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. It can grill and it can BBQ. You can BBQ a pork shoulder or a brisket in one if you are very careful about controlling the amount of charcoal and airflow.


    It can smoke too. I have smoked many briskets and pork shoulders using a Weber. The key to smoking with a Weber is the snake technique for laying out the charcoal and wood chunks. It is pretty much a “set it and forget it” set up.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    edited March 2023

    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.

    Me and @BleachedAnusDawg don't align on some things, but we are both technically proficient Weber kettle grill masters.

    The Weber Kettle grill remains to single most versatile piece of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. It can grill and it can BBQ. You can BBQ a pork shoulder or a brisket in one if you are very careful about controlling the amount of charcoal and airflow.


    It can smoke too. I have smoked many briskets and pork shoulders using a Weber. The key to smoking with a Weber is the snake technique for laying out the charcoal and wood chunks. It is pretty much a “set it and forget it” set up.
    You didn’t “smoke” those meats though. Rather you “barbecued” them. BBQ involves smoke but there’s a difference.

    Citation: https://www.weber.com/GB/en/blog/barbecuing-vs-smoking-vs-grilling-what-is-the-difference/weber-2172609.html
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,322 Founders Club

    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.

    Me and @BleachedAnusDawg don't align on some things, but we are both technically proficient Weber kettle grill masters.

    The Weber Kettle grill remains to single most versatile piece of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. It can grill and it can BBQ. You can BBQ a pork shoulder or a brisket in one if you are very careful about controlling the amount of charcoal and airflow.
    Is there a gas version?
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,273

    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.

    Me and @BleachedAnusDawg don't align on some things, but we are both technically proficient Weber kettle grill masters.

    The Weber Kettle grill remains to single most versatile piece of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. It can grill and it can BBQ. You can BBQ a pork shoulder or a brisket in one if you are very careful about controlling the amount of charcoal and airflow.


    It can smoke too. I have smoked many briskets and pork shoulders using a Weber. The key to smoking with a Weber is the snake technique for laying out the charcoal and wood chunks. It is pretty much a “set it and forget it” set up.
    You didn’t “smoke” those meats though. Rather you “barbecued” them. BBQ involves smoke but there’s a difference.

    Citation: https://www.weber.com/GB/en/blog/barbecuing-vs-smoking-vs-grilling-what-is-the-difference/weber-2172609.html
    "Barbecuing refers to cooking over a low flame and much slower, and smoking means to also cook low and slow, whilst also using the smoke produced by the barbecue to cook the food."

    Those differences are really on the edges and getting lost on me. I get that if you don't have wood involved to produce smoke and you're low and slow then that's barbecuing, but where that line is crossed when you've got a piece of wood giving off smoke as it slowly burns seems very hard to define.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Standard XMas is taking a full prime rib roast and putting it out on the big egg for however long it takes

    Long and slow off of direct heat is important

    My Dad uses all kinds of wood but I tend to be more partial to apple than richer woods

    Long and slow is the key to anything ...

    Vegi's on the grill is a big time winner as well

    PM me @Tequilla for Xmas prime rib thermometer advice. I’ll get you straightened out.
    My step-mom had one job for XMas dinner this year ... ONE JOB

    No running water made the whole holiday season a bit stressful period ... I'll give a mulligan for this year
    Well there's your problem. Who in their right mind let's thier M.I.L. - unless she's like Martha Stewart or something - go anywhere near the damn prime rib? Jeebus mang.

    Furthermore, you gotta have a feel for time and oven temp to predict meat temps after a number of hours. You don't wanna be 5 hrs in on a slow roast and realize you're getting bad thermometer reads.
    With circumstances (not going to go off on them publicly) she's taken more of a role in that side of things ...

    You're right ultimately it's on me for not just taking full charge ...

    I lost track of time a bit taking a little cat nap between cooking/prep sessions. When I got the original temp reading being as low as it was I took the reading as the fire wasn't going or was out (remember the temps outside were terrible) ... I think she even said as much.

    Of course, when you switch the thermometer from F to C ... you're fucked
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    People forget @BleachedAnusDawg the Weber kettle excels at wings. Low indirect heat BBQ for like 90 mins and then baste on the Frank's a few times. Tough to beat.



  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,310 Standard Supporter

    People forget @BleachedAnusDawg the Weber kettle excels at wings. Low indirect heat BBQ for like 90 mins and then baste on the Frank's a few times. Tough to beat.



    Do you clip the tip of the wing off?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club

    People forget @BleachedAnusDawg the Weber kettle excels at wings. Low indirect heat BBQ for like 90 mins and then baste on the Frank's a few times. Tough to beat.



    Do you clip the tip of the wing off?
    I don't know what that means. I buy a a bunch of raw wings from the grocer and throw on 'em on.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,322 Founders Club



    Do you clip the tip of the wing off?

    Just the tip?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club

    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.

    Me and @BleachedAnusDawg don't align on some things, but we are both technically proficient Weber kettle grill masters.

    The Weber Kettle grill remains to single most versatile piece of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. It can grill and it can BBQ. You can BBQ a pork shoulder or a brisket in one if you are very careful about controlling the amount of charcoal and airflow.
    Snake method is the shit for low and slow when doing pork butt or brisket.

    Picked one of these up for indirect bbq. The water break helps to keep it humid and also helps to keep the temperature even. Highly recommend. https://www.amazon.com/Slow-Sear-Original-Charcoal-Grills/dp/B084ZWJ2J1/ref=asc_df_B084ZWJ2J1/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416696576536&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=265508889368940712&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060423&hvtargid=pla-891274866143&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=92049668097&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416696576536&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=265508889368940712&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9060423&hvtargid=pla-891274866143
    @BleachedAnusDawg I ordered the sheet metal snake thingy a few weeks back it really helps with in direct cook on a Weber. Regulates the heat much better.

    I'm getting charcoal flavored goodness that you lazy ass Traeger fucks like @GrundleStiltzkin can't touch.




  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club

    Burgers on a Weber kettle, directly over charcoal with hickory wood. Can't be beat. Look for about a 300 degree temp to give the smoke a couple extra minutes.

    Of course, season with coarse salt and pepper.

    Me and @BleachedAnusDawg don't align on some things, but we are both technically proficient Weber kettle grill masters.

    The Weber Kettle grill remains to single most versatile piece of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. It can grill and it can BBQ. You can BBQ a pork shoulder or a brisket in one if you are very careful about controlling the amount of charcoal and airflow.


    It can smoke too. I have smoked many briskets and pork shoulders using a Weber. The key to smoking with a Weber is the snake technique for laying out the charcoal and wood chunks. It is pretty much a “set it and forget it” set up.
    What's your brisket game plan on the Weber @Purple_Pills in terms of timing?