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AOGAOG Member Posts: 2,571
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Russia is passing more severe laws about discrediting the armed forces. If you criticize you can wind up in jail for years. If you are in jail you can voluntarily join the armed forces since the government is recruiting now in addition to or in place of Wagner. This seems to be an enterprising way to bolster the dwindling ranks. Then you are sent on suicide missions which basically average 70 percent casualties. All of this is done to make an oversized country larger.
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  • BlueduckBlueduck Member Posts: 1,580
    Source link?
    Or opinion?
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  • AOGAOG Member Posts: 2,571
    Blueduck said:

    Source link?
    Or opinion?

    ISW
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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,459 Swaye's Wigwam
    AOG said:

    Blueduck said:

    Source link?
    Or opinion?

    ISW
    Interesting BOD.


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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,832 Standard Supporter
    AOG said:

    Russia is passing more severe laws about discrediting the armed forces. If you criticize you can wind up in jail for years. If you are in jail you can voluntarily join the armed forces since the government is recruiting now in addition to or in place of Wagner. This seems to be an enterprising way to bolster the dwindling ranks. Then you are sent on suicide missions which basically average 70 percent casualties. All of this is done to make an oversized country larger.

    And we care why?

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  • BlueduckBlueduck Member Posts: 1,580
    edited March 2023
    This is opinion,

    From the link...key word "may" leverage an amendment.

    "The Kremlin may leverage an amendment to Russia’s Criminal Code increasing punishments for "discrediting" the war in Ukraine to promote further self-censorship measures among the critical ultranationalist community, prompting pushback from Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and prominent milbloggers."


    If you post something as fact that it is happening and don't cite a source with it, it's very sus!
    When it turns out that you misrepresented the article you lose all credibility whether it was unintentional or intentional


    -1 to the OP
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  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 7,926
    Fine open up drilling and kill their economy
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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,459 Swaye's Wigwam
    Goduckies said:

    Fine open up drilling and kill their economy

    Exactly right. Sanctions aren’t the way to go, just flood them out with supply.
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  • AOGAOG Member Posts: 2,571
    Blueduck said:

    This is opinion,

    From the link...key word "may" leverage an amendment.

    "The Kremlin may leverage an amendment to Russia’s Criminal Code increasing punishments for "discrediting" the war in Ukraine to promote further self-censorship measures among the critical ultranationalist community, prompting pushback from Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and prominent milbloggers."


    If you post something as fact that it is happening and don't cite a source with it, it's very sus!
    When it turns out that you misrepresented the article you lose all credibility whether it was unintentional or intentional


    -1 to the OP

    If you read the totality of sources, it is going to happen probably... anyway, it already is illegal to "discredit" and also to get out of jail early to fight as a "volunteer" ... the point is that in Russia if you criticize, you could wind up right in the middle of the target of your criticism
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  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    AOG said:

    Blueduck said:

    This is opinion,

    From the link...key word "may" leverage an amendment.

    "The Kremlin may leverage an amendment to Russia’s Criminal Code increasing punishments for "discrediting" the war in Ukraine to promote further self-censorship measures among the critical ultranationalist community, prompting pushback from Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and prominent milbloggers."


    If you post something as fact that it is happening and don't cite a source with it, it's very sus!
    When it turns out that you misrepresented the article you lose all credibility whether it was unintentional or intentional


    -1 to the OP

    If you read the totality of sources, it is going to happen probably... anyway, it already is illegal to "discredit" and also to get out of jail early to fight as a "volunteer" ... the point is that in Russia if you criticize, you could wind up right in the middle of the target of your criticism
    No way! I had no idea that things were like that bad in Russia.
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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,459 Swaye's Wigwam
    AOG said:

    Blueduck said:

    This is opinion,

    From the link...key word "may" leverage an amendment.

    "The Kremlin may leverage an amendment to Russia’s Criminal Code increasing punishments for "discrediting" the war in Ukraine to promote further self-censorship measures among the critical ultranationalist community, prompting pushback from Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and prominent milbloggers."


    If you post something as fact that it is happening and don't cite a source with it, it's very sus!
    When it turns out that you misrepresented the article you lose all credibility whether it was unintentional or intentional


    -1 to the OP

    If you read the totality of sources, it is going to happen probably... anyway, it already is illegal to "discredit" and also to get out of jail early to fight as a "volunteer" ... the point is that in Russia if you criticize, you could wind up right in the middle of the target of your criticism
    That’s true in a lot of places.
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  • BlueduckBlueduck Member Posts: 1,580
    AOG said:

    Blueduck said:

    This is opinion,

    From the link...key word "may" leverage an amendment.

    "The Kremlin may leverage an amendment to Russia’s Criminal Code increasing punishments for "discrediting" the war in Ukraine to promote further self-censorship measures among the critical ultranationalist community, prompting pushback from Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and prominent milbloggers."


    If you post something as fact that it is happening and don't cite a source with it, it's very sus!
    When it turns out that you misrepresented the article you lose all credibility whether it was unintentional or intentional


    -1 to the OP

    If you read the totality of sources, it is going to happen probably... anyway, it already is illegal to "discredit" and also to get out of jail early to fight as a "volunteer" ... the point is that in Russia if you criticize, you could wind up right in the middle of the target of your criticism
    No no, you don't get to do that!

    I have no problem with the page at face value.
    You can take away from it what you will but you cannot inject your opinion and takes from the piece and import them here as fact.

    If you poast a link, I will read it without prejudice and formulate my own opinion based on the piece.



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  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 7,926
    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    Blueduck said:

    This is opinion,

    From the link...key word "may" leverage an amendment.

    "The Kremlin may leverage an amendment to Russia’s Criminal Code increasing punishments for "discrediting" the war in Ukraine to promote further self-censorship measures among the critical ultranationalist community, prompting pushback from Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and prominent milbloggers."


    If you post something as fact that it is happening and don't cite a source with it, it's very sus!
    When it turns out that you misrepresented the article you lose all credibility whether it was unintentional or intentional


    -1 to the OP

    If you read the totality of sources, it is going to happen probably... anyway, it already is illegal to "discredit" and also to get out of jail early to fight as a "volunteer" ... the point is that in Russia if you criticize, you could wind up right in the middle of the target of your criticism
    That’s true in a lot of places.
    Yup, so keep your mouth shut or reap the consequences.... sucks, but it is what it is... maybe try to escape and talk against it from another country.
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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,298 Founders Club
    JFC. The moment PGOS bows out, AOGfs jumps in.

    @AOG pack your bags and get over there, pussy.

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  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited March 2023
    AOG said:

    Blueduck said:

    This is opinion,

    From the link...key word "may" leverage an amendment.

    "The Kremlin may leverage an amendment to Russia’s Criminal Code increasing punishments for "discrediting" the war in Ukraine to promote further self-censorship measures among the critical ultranationalist community, prompting pushback from Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and prominent milbloggers."


    If you post something as fact that it is happening and don't cite a source with it, it's very sus!
    When it turns out that you misrepresented the article you lose all credibility whether it was unintentional or intentional


    -1 to the OP

    If you read the totality of sources, it is going to happen probably... anyway, it already is illegal to "discredit" and also to get out of jail early to fight as a "volunteer" ... the point is that in Russia if you criticize, you could wind up right in the middle of the target of your criticism
    “ . . . totality of sources . . . It is going to happen probably… if you criticize, you could wind up . . . “

    Drivel . . .

    It’s your opinion, which may or may not be correct.
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  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    You know, with Putin, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don’t care for him.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,984 Founders Club
    Heal yourself AOG

    America has been engaged in censoring opinions for the last three years at least

    Also still have J 6 prisoners locked up

    Fuck off with the Russia bullshit
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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,459 Swaye's Wigwam
    LoneStarDawg said:

    I’m told Russia is about to crumble, but also that they’re about to take over Europe

    I can’t handle the ups and downs of the MIC propaganda

    They will take Paris before they take Karkhiv.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,984 Founders Club
    hardhat said:

    You know, with Putin, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don’t care for him.

    Did you know that Putin, Zelensky, and Biden are all elected presidents of their country?

    Democracy man
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  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    RaceBannon said:

    hardhat said:

    You know, with Putin, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don’t care for him.

    Did you know that Putin, Zelensky, and Biden are all elected presidents of their country?

    Democracy man
    Trump is literally hitler tho
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