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https://www.salon.com/2023/02/21/fox-news-texts-reveal-the-truth-the-big-lie-was-a-con--that-the-viewers-were-in-on/

It's not just that Fox News audiences don't care if they're lied to. Lies are what they crave. They tune into Fox News because lies are exactly what they want to hear.

I'm going to indulge for a moment in told-ya-so: I've long written about my view that Republican voters don't really believe the Big Lie, even as they claim they do to pollsters. Instead, I've argued, it's less a sincere belief than a collective lie Republicans tell together, as a power play and a show of tribal loyalty. In other words, Republicans aren't fooled by Trump's claims he "won" the 2020 election. They just think they're in on the con. Yet every time I write about this, I get serious pushback from people insisting that Republicans "really" believe this stuff.

Well, if that were true, then audiences would be angry at Fox News for lying to their faces. That isn't happening, and no one expects it to.
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,568 Standard Supporter
    If only state laws could be changed by executive fiat on how they conduct elections you might have a point. The dazzler must have missed the explanation about how a statute is changed by the legislature through this thing called a bill and then signed into law by the governor. It's almost like he never went to law school.

    When the dazzler looks to Salon for an honest assessment of anything, then you know the fix is in.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    edited February 2023
    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    RaceBannon said:

    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid

    Gasbag says Tucker is a journalist.

    I'll let you gals fight it out.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    WestlinnDuck said:

    If only state laws could be changed by executive fiat on how they conduct elections you might have a point. The dazzler must have missed the explanation about how a statute is changed by the legislature through this thing called a bill and then signed into law by the governor. It's almost like he never went to law school.

    When the dazzler looks to Salon for an honest assessment of anything, then you know the fix is in.

    Really scintillating analysis of nothing whatsoever to do with the Dominion lies, Gasbag.

    Strong work!
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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,677 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid

    Gasbag says Tucker is a journalist.

    I'll let you gals fight it out.
    Who is your favorite journalist?
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid

    Gasbag says Tucker is a journalist.

    I'll let you gals fight it out.
    Who is your favorite journalist?
    Chet Huntley
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid

    Gasbag says Tucker is a journalist.

    I'll let you gals fight it out.
    Full of shit as usual

    Lightweight
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid

    Gasbag says Tucker is a journalist.

    I'll let you gals fight it out.
    Who is your favorite journalist?
    Chet Huntley
    Chet Huntly would want the J 6 videos

    Kind of like Tucker

    I said FOX News imploded not Tucker but then again you're stupid
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    RaceBannon said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid

    Gasbag says Tucker is a journalist.

    I'll let you gals fight it out.
    Who is your favorite journalist?
    Chet Huntley
    Chet Huntly would want the J 6 videos

    Kind of like Tucker

    I said FOX News imploded not Tucker but then again you're stupid
    Tucker says you girls believe a bunch of bullshit. But not to your faces, so it's okay.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid

    Gasbag says Tucker is a journalist.

    I'll let you gals fight it out.
    Who is your favorite journalist?
    Chet Huntley
    Chet Huntly would want the J 6 videos

    Kind of like Tucker

    I said FOX News imploded not Tucker but then again you're stupid
    Tucker says you girls believe a bunch of bullshit. But not to your faces, so it's okay.
    Blah blah blah the lightweight brays like a donkey

    FOX! TUCKER!


    SQUIRREL!
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    RaceBannon said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid

    Gasbag says Tucker is a journalist.

    I'll let you gals fight it out.
    Who is your favorite journalist?
    Chet Huntley
    Chet Huntly would want the J 6 videos

    Kind of like Tucker

    I said FOX News imploded not Tucker but then again you're stupid
    Tucker says you girls believe a bunch of bullshit. But not to your faces, so it's okay.
    Blah blah blah the lightweight brays like a donkey

    FOX! TUCKER!


    SQUIRREL!
    Out of ammo already?
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    You voted for Biden.

    Fuck off.

    Proven idiot.
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  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,846
    edited February 2023
    HHusky said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    If only state laws could be changed by executive fiat on how they conduct elections you might have a point. The dazzler must have missed the explanation about how a statute is changed by the legislature through this thing called a bill and then signed into law by the governor. It's almost like he never went to law school.

    When the dazzler looks to Salon for an honest assessment of anything, then you know the fix is in.

    Really scintillating analysis of nothing whatsoever to do with the Dominion lies, Gasbag.

    Strong work!
    The texts are irrelevant. Fraud has been mentioned enough by them to make the base forever question elections, which was the only intent.

    Eagle Freedom Arms Bearer News will keep running with it though.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    HHusky said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    If only state laws could be changed by executive fiat on how they conduct elections you might have a point. The dazzler must have missed the explanation about how a statute is changed by the legislature through this thing called a bill and then signed into law by the governor. It's almost like he never went to law school.

    When the dazzler looks to Salon for an honest assessment of anything, then you know the fix is in.

    Really scintillating analysis of nothing whatsoever to do with the Dominion lies, Gasbag.

    Strong work!
    The texts are irrelevant. Fraud has been mentioned enough by them to make the base forever question elections, which was the only intent.

    Eagle Freedom Arms Bearer News will keep running with it though.
    If the racist Democrats thought black and brown folks capable enough to get an ID, we? could put the whole matter to rest.

    Don't hold your breath.

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  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,846
    pawz said:

    MelloDawg said:

    HHusky said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    If only state laws could be changed by executive fiat on how they conduct elections you might have a point. The dazzler must have missed the explanation about how a statute is changed by the legislature through this thing called a bill and then signed into law by the governor. It's almost like he never went to law school.

    When the dazzler looks to Salon for an honest assessment of anything, then you know the fix is in.

    Really scintillating analysis of nothing whatsoever to do with the Dominion lies, Gasbag.

    Strong work!
    The texts are irrelevant. Fraud has been mentioned enough by them to make the base forever question elections, which was the only intent.

    Eagle Freedom Arms Bearer News will keep running with it though.
    If the racist Democrats thought black and brown folks capable enough to get an ID, we? could put the whole matter to rest.

    Don't hold your breath.

    People forget that Mexico is surprisingly good with voter ID. People forget that.
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  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited February 2023
    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Of all the shit going on under the moron in chief that H voted for, he remains focused like a laser on meaningless bullshit

    FOX News imploded 2 years ago

    Leftists are slow

    And stupid

    Gasbag says Tucker is a journalist.

    I'll let you gals fight it out.
    What’s your definition of a “journalist”, Mr. Salon.com?



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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    https://www.salon.com/2023/02/21/fox-news-texts-reveal-the-truth-the-big-lie-was-a-con--that-the-viewers-were-in-on/

    It's not just that Fox News audiences don't care if they're lied to. Lies are what they crave. They tune into Fox News because lies are exactly what they want to hear.

    I'm going to indulge for a moment in told-ya-so: I've long written about my view that Republican voters don't really believe the Big Lie, even as they claim they do to pollsters. Instead, I've argued, it's less a sincere belief than a collective lie Republicans tell together, as a power play and a show of tribal loyalty. In other words, Republicans aren't fooled by Trump's claims he "won" the 2020 election. They just think they're in on the con. Yet every time I write about this, I get serious pushback from people insisting that Republicans "really" believe this stuff.

    Well, if that were true, then audiences would be angry at Fox News for lying to their faces. That isn't happening, and no one expects it to.

    Embarrassing that you admit to reading Salon. Now I know for sure you’re a mouth agape moron posing as a lawyer here.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited February 2023
    Two categories of TugCons:

    1. rube; or
    2. in on the con.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/arizona-s-top-prosecutor-concealed-records-debunking-election-fraud-claims/ar-AA17NZUJ
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,748 Standard Supporter
    MSN? Hondo is that you?
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Sledog said:

    MSN? Hondo is that you?

    rube
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter
    Washington compost lol
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter
    Burn o vich talks out both sides of his mouth. I don't trust a word he says.
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  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,846
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Washington compost lol

    Must be nice to say “I don’t believe it, so it never happened.”
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,568 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Washington compost lol

    Must be nice to say “I don’t believe it, so it never happened.”
    So ironic.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    WestlinnDuck said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Washington compost lol

    Must be nice to say “I don’t believe it, so it never happened.”
    So ironic.
    in on it

    more reprehensible, but not Sludge level dumb at least
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,568 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Washington compost lol

    Must be nice to say “I don’t believe it, so it never happened.”
    So ironic.
    in on it

    more reprehensible, but not Sludge level dumb at least
    You voted for a bought and paid for dementia patient. I didn't. You bought the Fow Chee lies. I didn't. Definitely Sludge level stupidity.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    WestlinnDuck said:

    HHusky said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Washington compost lol

    Must be nice to say “I don’t believe it, so it never happened.”
    So ironic.
    in on it

    more reprehensible, but not Sludge level dumb at least
    You voted for a bought and paid for dementia patient. I didn't. You bought the Fow Chee lies. I didn't. Definitely Sludge level stupidity.
    no denial from Gasbag
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,568 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    HHusky said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Washington compost lol

    Must be nice to say “I don’t believe it, so it never happened.”
    So ironic.
    in on it

    more reprehensible, but not Sludge level dumb at least
    You voted for a bought and paid for dementia patient. I didn't. You bought the Fow Chee lies. I didn't. Definitely Sludge level stupidity.
    no denial from Gasbag
    No denial from the dazzler.
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