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pawz
pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,420 Founders Club
… after 17 years, the CDC just happens to update the toxicological profile for Vinyl Chloride mere weeks before the Ohio train derailment?








Citation needed.

Before (archived): https://web.archive.org/web/20221021211734/https://atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp20.pdf

Now (see page 6 for version history): https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp20.pdf

Surprise surprise, in the new version they said its less deadly. They changed the DEATH ppm limit from 100 to >100 000.

Story just broke on the chans: https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/416338885

Comments

  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965
    Yeah they set up a train to derail... lol man you guys and your conspiracy theories lol
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    Wow
    Goduckies said:

    Yeah they set up a train to derail... lol man you guys and your conspiracy theories lol

    Nonetheless, it is a very odd coincidence.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,420 Founders Club
    Goduckies said:

    Yeah they set up a train to derail... lol man you guys and your conspiracy theories lol

    How hard do you think that would be? Serious question.

    I would take the under.

  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965
    The specific instance, very hard to set up, but neglect can cause it and railroads have been guilty of that lately.
  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,592
    Yep, nothing to see here...,
    They made a movie about a train derailment and huge toxic cloud that's set in Ohio, using extras from Palestine and release the movie a couple months before it actually happens in the exact same area.

    Totally coincidence
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,703 Founders Club
    Goduckies said:

    Yeah they set up a train to derail... lol man you guys and your conspiracy theories lol

    DeSantis voter
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,836
    Goduckies said:

    Yeah they set up a train to derail... lol man you guys and your conspiracy theories lol

    Home run.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,703 Founders Club
    lol go duckies and mello

    Two peas in a pod
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,627 Founders Club
    What if they made a vaccine before a virus?
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965

    lol go duckies and mello

    Two peas in a pod

    Considering i just got hired by BNSF and have been a train buff my whole life and knew about this a week before you all, no I'm not connected to mello.... But yes, i do know what happened and what caused it... it wasn't some grand conspiracy theory...
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,703 Founders Club
    Goduckies said:

    lol go duckies and mello

    Two peas in a pod

    Considering i just got hired by BNSF and have been a train buff my whole life and knew about this a week before you all, no I'm not connected to mello.... But yes, i do know what happened and what caused it... it wasn't some grand conspiracy theory...
    Nothing is

    Completely normal

    Quite common
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,703 Founders Club
    Grand conspiracy theory = leftist argument when the facts are against them

    Covid was manufactured in a lab

    Grand conspiracy theory
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Blueduck said:

    Yep, nothing to see here...,
    They made a movie about a train derailment and huge toxic cloud that's set in Ohio, using extras from Palestine and release the movie a couple months before it actually happens in the exact same area.

    Totally coincidence

    I watched that movie and the interesting thing is the movie wasn’t entirely based around the toxic cloud. Just the first half.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,007
    Goduckies said:

    lol go duckies and mello

    Two peas in a pod

    Considering i just got hired by BNSF and have been a train buff my whole life and knew about this a week before you all, no I'm not connected to mello.... But yes, i do know what happened and what caused it... it wasn't some grand conspiracy theory...
    You should spill your guts if you do know what happened.

    Or are you afraid of getting Epstein'd?
  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,592
    Yep, they made a movie about a train derailment and huge toxic
    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    Yep, nothing to see here...,
    They made a movie about a train derailment and huge toxic cloud that's set in Ohio, using extras from Palestine and release the movie a couple months before it actually happens in the exact same area.

    Totally coincidence

    I watched that movie and the interesting thing is the movie wasn’t entirely based around the toxic cloud. Just the first half.
    Fun fact, the movie was based on a book written over 30 years ago...(which doesn't exactly help the "coincidence theorists")
  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,592
    edited February 2023

    Goduckies said:

    lol go duckies and mello

    Two peas in a pod

    Considering i just got hired by BNSF and have been a train buff my whole life and knew about this a week before you all, no I'm not connected to mello.... But yes, i do know what happened and what caused it... it wasn't some grand conspiracy theory...
    You should spill your guts if you do know what happened.

    Or are you afraid of getting Epstein'd?
    Prolly has an NDA and will get fired...then disappeared.

  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Blueduck said:

    Yep, they made a movie about a train derailment and huge toxic

    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    Yep, nothing to see here...,
    They made a movie about a train derailment and huge toxic cloud that's set in Ohio, using extras from Palestine and release the movie a couple months before it actually happens in the exact same area.

    Totally coincidence

    I watched that movie and the interesting thing is the movie wasn’t entirely based around the toxic cloud. Just the first half.
    Fun fact, the movie was based on a book written over 30 years ago...(which doesn't exactly help the "coincidence theorists")
    And easily could have been written two weeks ago.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    edited February 2023
    Goduckies said:

    lol go duckies and mello

    Two peas in a pod

    Considering i just got hired by BNSF and have been a train buff my whole life and knew about this a week before you all, no I'm not connected to mello.... But yes, i do know what happened and what caused it... it wasn't some grand conspiracy theory...
    There's video evidence of the car scraping and causing sparks well before it happened. The next question is why was it undetected or neglected?
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965

    Goduckies said:

    lol go duckies and mello

    Two peas in a pod

    Considering i just got hired by BNSF and have been a train buff my whole life and knew about this a week before you all, no I'm not connected to mello.... But yes, i do know what happened and what caused it... it wasn't some grand conspiracy theory...
    You should spill your guts if you do know what happened.

    Or are you afraid of getting Epstein'd?
    It isn't hard to see what happened if you look it up, the train had a hot box journal and was even caught on a ring camera. The next defector they are every 20 miles was actually in East Palestine just past the wreck site. Sadly the train derailed before hand. There were a bunch of HCL cars on fire and they were going to explode way worse in a bleve explosion so they decided to control it themselves while bad was less bad. That's it... no conspiracy theory to blow up farmland.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965
    edited February 2023
    Blueduck said:

    Yep, they made a movie about a train derailment and huge toxic

    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    Yep, nothing to see here...,
    They made a movie about a train derailment and huge toxic cloud that's set in Ohio, using extras from Palestine and release the movie a couple months before it actually happens in the exact same area.

    Totally coincidence

    I watched that movie and the interesting thing is the movie wasn’t entirely based around the toxic cloud. Just the first half.
    Fun fact, the movie was based on a book written over 30 years ago...(which doesn't exactly help the "coincidence theorists")
    Yes, this isn't a far fetched idea... this has happened through the years in Canada 50 people died in a horrific wreck. Trains unfortunately are dangerous.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965
    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    lol go duckies and mello

    Two peas in a pod

    Considering i just got hired by BNSF and have been a train buff my whole life and knew about this a week before you all, no I'm not connected to mello.... But yes, i do know what happened and what caused it... it wasn't some grand conspiracy theory...
    There's video evidence of the car scraping and causing sparks well before it happened. The next question is why was it undetected or neglected?
    Every 20 miles there is a detector... trains are also up to 2 miles long now making it harder to see those issues by the crew that is now only in the cab, no caboose for 30 years. The real question which hasn't come out yet is if the hot box detector went off prior and the NS dispatcher told them to keep going which now in the days of Precision scheduled railroading(aka bigger trains less staff less maintenance) they might have pushed it. Sadly they and east Palestine might have got burned due to that.


    Railroads never used to be controlled by wall street near as much as they are now so they have been cutting corners unfortunately. If it wasn't a life long goal of mine to work on the railroad, i wouldn't ever think of taking the job now.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,576 Standard Supporter
    I know nothing about the science or engineering of trains, but two miles seems really long and probably unsafe.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965

    I know nothing about the science or engineering of trains, but two miles seems really long and probably unsafe.

    I know nothing about the science or engineering of trains, but two miles seems really long and probably unsafe.

    They are usually safe that long. Hundreds of trains a day now are running that size with zero issue, but when shit hits the fan, yes it's not as safe.