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Genetically modified foods
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Europeans hate them. Americans seem to shrug their shoulders at them.
Genetically modified foods 14 votes
are going to poison humanity eventually.
28%
4 votes
are ok. They make fruits and vegtables taste better, grow faster, and last longer.
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10 votes
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Invalid pole. No Reno.
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You would vote GMO in that case. You have to be genetically modified to be that ugly.Swaye said:Invalid pole. No Reno.
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are ok. They make fruits and vegtables taste better, grow faster, and last longer.There are a thousand more issues related to food that are more pressing than GMOs.
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I am for good food but against GMOs
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Any food scientists in here?
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I saw a bumper sticker about GMOs
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are ok. They make fruits and vegtables taste better, grow faster, and last longer.I voted.
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I am for better food, but against corporations trying to hide information about whether or not a particular product is a GMO product; and I'm against Monsanto suing farmers that accidentally grew a crop that looks like a patented crop just because the neighboring crop's pollen was blown by the wind into their field. Nature >> Lawyers.
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Poisoning humans isn't the issue with GMOs
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Where is CollegeDoog when you really need him?PurpleJ said:Any food scientists in here?
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are ok. They make fruits and vegtables taste better, grow faster, and last longer.What is the difference between selective breeding/pollination and genetic modifications? Same end result.
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are going to poison humanity eventually.They're banned in dozens of countries, yet we can't even get them labeled. MERICUH
By the way, they won't poison everyone, but you know, lack of choices...the Reno joke ran its course by June, but I forget about the audience here who finds fugly attorney generals funny 230,000 times. -
Many companies freely label and market GMO free foods right now... and are able to charge an extra buck, 2 or 3 on a loaf of bread, for example. Dave's Killer Bread comes to mind. $6 a loaf vs. $1.25 for the Kroger brand.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:They're banned in dozens of countries, yet we can't even get them labeled. MERICUH
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FRANZ bakery has their premium breads such as San Juan Island at around $4 but have also added GMO free, Organic for about $1 more, right next to their old line.
There is about $.02 worth of grain in a loaf of bread.
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sarktastic said:
Many companies freely label and market GMO free foods right now... and are able to charge an extra buck, 2 or 3 on a loaf of bread, for example. Dave's Killer Bread comes to mind. $6 a loaf vs. $1.25 for the Kroger brand.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:They're banned in dozens of countries, yet we can't even get them labeled. MERICUH
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FRANNY'S bakery has their premium breads such as San Juan Island at around $4 but have also added GMO free, Organic for about $1 more, right next to their old line.
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are ok. They make fruits and vegtables taste better, grow faster, and last longer.This is the costco shopper mentality. Upper middle class white people trying to dictate what everyone else should do, not giving a fuck if it makes things more expensive or more difficult to get for the poorer people of the world. It's elitist thinking and hurts the poor in an effort to make themselves feel good about their activism. A poor person cares about getting a loaf of bread or an ear of corn for as cheaply as possible. They don't care about some nebulous science that may or may not have anything to do with them living to be 74 rather than 75. (Assuming the 100 other more dangerous things don't kill them first) Not to mention feeding a billion people who would otherwise starve to death. Not staving by American standards. But actually staving to death.
As far as Monsanto suing farmers and controlling the seeds...that would not be possible without the god damn government's hand all over this. It would not be happening in a free market. -
Corporate for-profit food production isn't trying to help the poor. It is trying to make the poor dependent on a product that they own the patent on. The poor are better off growing crops that evolved in their ecosystem and that have some natural resistance to the local pests and use the local nutrients -- not planting Monsanto rice seed #125 that requires Monsanto pesticide #875 and Monsanto fertilizer #765.MikeDamone said:This is the costco shopper mentality. Upper middle class white people trying to dictate what everyone else should do, not giving a fuck if it makes things more expensive or more difficult to get for the poorer people of the world.
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are ok. They make fruits and vegtables taste better, grow faster, and last longer.
Again, without the government fucking with the market, none of this is an issue. And while the company may not "try to help the poor" that happens naturally as they feed a billion more people while turning a profit.Baphomet said:
Corporate for-profit food production isn't trying to help the poor. It is trying to make the poor dependent on a product that they own the patent on. The poor are better off growing crops that evolved in their ecosystem and that have some natural resistance to the local pests and use the local nutrients -- not planting Monsanto rice seed #125 that requires Monsanto pesticide #875 and Monsanto fertilizer #765.MikeDamone said:This is the costco shopper mentality. Upper middle class white people trying to dictate what everyone else should do, not giving a fuck if it makes things more expensive or more difficult to get for the poorer people of the world.
I'm glad the worlds poor have the crops evolved in their own ecosystem dialed in.
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They did, before the world bank, on the behalf of Monsanto, lent them money to "modernize" their farming practices to Monsanto standards (which is very oil intensive), and then they had a glut of food for 10-20 years and had huge population explosions... beyond what the land could naturally support on local crops... then the loans came due and they could no longer afford this unsustainable farming practice and their crops failed and people starved.MikeDamone said:
I'm glad the worlds poor have the crops evolved in their own ecosystem dialed in.
But hey... as long as some people in the market made a buck.. who cares, right? It makes for a good picture as to why we should all have a warm fuzzy for Monsanto (and in your case, Jon Galt). -
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are ok. They make fruits and vegtables taste better, grow faster, and last longer.
So you're saying government fucked it up? I think we agree.Baphomet said:
They did, before the world bank, on the behalf of Monsanto, lent them money to "modernize" their farming practices to Monsanto standards (which is very oil intensive), and then they had a glut of food for 10-20 years and had huge population explosions... beyond what the land could naturally support on local crops... then the loans came due and they could no longer afford this unsustainable farming practice and their crops failed and people starved.MikeDamone said:
I'm glad the worlds poor have the crops evolved in their own ecosystem dialed in.
But hey... as long as some people in the market made a buck.. who cares, right? It makes for a good picture as to why we should all have a warm fuzzy for Monsanto (and in your case, Jon Galt).
You also seem to be saying that if they have plenty of food, the fuckers start shitting out kids, so it best to keep them on the edge of starvation to keep the bastards from breeding too much. Lib logic. -
Sure, I can agree that when the government is doing the bidding of for profit corporations, it tends to fuck things up, it also tends to lead to fascism.MikeDamone said:
So you're saying government fucked it up? I think we agree.Baphomet said:
They did, before the world bank, on the behalf of Monsanto, lent them money to "modernize" their farming practices to Monsanto standards (which is very oil intensive), and then they had a glut of food for 10-20 years and had huge population explosions... beyond what the land could naturally support on local crops... then the loans came due and they could no longer afford this unsustainable farming practice and their crops failed and people starved.MikeDamone said:
I'm glad the worlds poor have the crops evolved in their own ecosystem dialed in.
But hey... as long as some people in the market made a buck.. who cares, right? It makes for a good picture as to why we should all have a warm fuzzy for Monsanto (and in your case, Jon Galt).
You also seem to be saying that if they have plenty of food, the fuckers start shitting out kids, so it best to keep them on the edge of starvation to keep the bastards from breeding too much. Lib logic.
I'd rather teach them birth control, then teach them how to farm the way Monsanto thinks is best.
The converse... enabling unlimited breeding beyond what the environment can support... that's conservative missionary logic.
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are ok. They make fruits and vegtables taste better, grow faster, and last longer.
"Enabling breeding". Lol.Baphomet said:
Sure, I can agree that when the government is doing the bidding of for profit corporations, it tends to fuck things up, it also tends to lead to fascism.MikeDamone said:
So you're saying government fucked it up? I think we agree.Baphomet said:
They did, before the world bank, on the behalf of Monsanto, lent them money to "modernize" their farming practices to Monsanto standards (which is very oil intensive), and then they had a glut of food for 10-20 years and had huge population explosions... beyond what the land could naturally support on local crops... then the loans came due and they could no longer afford this unsustainable farming practice and their crops failed and people starved.MikeDamone said:
I'm glad the worlds poor have the crops evolved in their own ecosystem dialed in.
But hey... as long as some people in the market made a buck.. who cares, right? It makes for a good picture as to why we should all have a warm fuzzy for Monsanto (and in your case, Jon Galt).
You also seem to be saying that if they have plenty of food, the fuckers start shitting out kids, so it best to keep them on the edge of starvation to keep the bastards from breeding too much. Lib logic.
I'd rather teach them birth control, then teach them how to farm the way Monsanto thinks is best.
The converse... enabling unlimited breeding beyond what the environment can support... that's conservative logic.
I don't think you understand fascism, but that doesn't matter. In the free market Monsanto wouldn't be able to do any of this shit. This is government corporatism pure and simple. Obama and the congress have the power and opportunity to end this, but they keep pushing it forward. It's bullshit.
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Sounds like Bathomat has the world dialed in
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are ok. They make fruits and vegtables taste better, grow faster, and last longer.Also to clarify, I'm for GMOs but against the way the government and the bio companies are doing it.
