As of 10/23, who is the Pac-12 Offensive Player of the Year?

DerekJohnson said:

RaceBannon said:

How did @Uncle_Duck get in here without severe hazing?

He joined in April but was laying low

GrundleStiltzkin said:

Dark horse Heisman contender imo

Kingdome_Urinals said:

TheHB said:

Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.

Kingdome_Urinals said:

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

TheHB said:

Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.

Lol.

Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.

Is this supposed to be some kind of analysis or proof to put me in my place? You basically assumed the validity of your conclusion in a couple of your premises. We call that question begging. I have no fucking idea how Penix would have fared against Ga in those same circumstances, nor do you. I just know against a common opponent, UCLA's historically oppressive home field advantage notwithstanding, Nix played great in the air and on the ground (modern QBs are judged by both) and Penix threw two horrible pix. If we're dissecting advantages and making rationalizations, Penix has a couple or three WRs better than anybody Nix throws to, Nix has a better running game and better defense. Sure, he played shitty against GA, but then Penix hasn't really played anybody other than UCLA and wasn't as good against them as was Nix. If you re-read your post, it will be evident the only one here gurgling balls is you. I'm not trying to be tough like I was with the Utah rose bowl thread. Just how I see it. Don't take it personally. I'm not saying Nix is objectively better than Penix; I am saying he's done more in league play to get the nod to date. Good news for Penix is he has three more decent teams in front of him to carve up and make his case.

Lulz.

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

TheHB said:

Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.

Lol.

Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.

Is this supposed to be some kind of analysis or proof to put me in my place? You basically assumed the validity of your conclusion in a couple of your premises. We call that question begging. I have no fucking idea how Penix would have fared against Ga in those same circumstances, nor do you. I just know against a common opponent, UCLA's historically oppressive home field advantage notwithstanding, Nix played great in the air and on the ground (modern QBs are judged by both) and Penix threw two horrible pix. If we're dissecting advantages and making rationalizations, Penix has a couple or three WRs better than anybody Nix throws to, Nix has a better running game and better defense. Sure, he played shitty against GA, but then Penix hasn't really played anybody other than UCLA and wasn't as good against them as was Nix. If you re-read your post, it will be evident the only one here gurgling balls is you. I'm not trying to be tough like I was with the Utah rose bowl thread. Just how I see it. Don't take it personally. I'm not saying Nix is objectively better than Penix; I am saying he's done more in league play to get the nod to date. Good news for Penix is he has three more decent teams in front of him to carve up and make his case.

Lulz.

And still hasn’t read the post.

Kingdome_Urinals said:

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

creepycoug said:

Kingdome_Urinals said:

TheHB said:

Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.

Lol.

Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.

Is this supposed to be some kind of analysis or proof to put me in my place? You basically assumed the validity of your conclusion in a couple of your premises. We call that question begging. I have no fucking idea how Penix would have fared against Ga in those same circumstances, nor do you. I just know against a common opponent, UCLA's historically oppressive home field advantage notwithstanding, Nix played great in the air and on the ground (modern QBs are judged by both) and Penix threw two horrible pix. If we're dissecting advantages and making rationalizations, Penix has a couple or three WRs better than anybody Nix throws to, Nix has a better running game and better defense. Sure, he played shitty against GA, but then Penix hasn't really played anybody other than UCLA and wasn't as good against them as was Nix. If you re-read your post, it will be evident the only one here gurgling balls is you. I'm not trying to be tough like I was with the Utah rose bowl thread. Just how I see it. Don't take it personally. I'm not saying Nix is objectively better than Penix; I am saying he's done more in league play to get the nod to date. Good news for Penix is he has three more decent teams in front of him to carve up and make his case.

"Seems like you care" POTD.

Did you cry to your dad after you wrote this?

Home field is huge in CFB, if you don't get that try a new sport to follow. That's part of why Nix tucked his ween between his legs and got railed by UGA. Because that was an in-region game for GA.

That actually happened. He got scared and fucked up at being QB the whole game. 3 points.

Penix basically carries his entire team and is under pressure to score every drive while passing all day long. Nix has a good run game and a better defense than Penix, and he benefits from both.

Again, Nix just had his mountain top game of the year we'll se how this shakes out. I think Penix will keep doing what he's doing and Nix will not stay hot.