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As of 10/23, who is the Pac-12 Offensive Player of the Year?

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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    edited October 2022
    Michael Penix, Jr. (UW)
    It's an insane year in this conference where there's 4 "elite" quarterbacks but only Nix runs like a 4 star slot wr.

    Penix the best skill wise but who cares about that atm.
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    Bo Nix (Oregon)
    dtd said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    TheHB said:

    Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

    Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

    Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

    If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.
    Lol.
    Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

    But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

    If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.
    You're fucking horrible at this. What other game was nix "noncompetitive"? He has 25 fucking TDs and 1 TO since UGA.

    Down 12 to WSU with 5 to play:

    1st & 10 at ORE 25
    (6:41 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 18 yds to the Oregn 43 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 43
    (6:17 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Moliki Matavao for 8 yds to the WshSt 49

    2nd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:58 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    3rd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:54 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    4th & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:48 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Bucky Irving for 21 yds to the WshSt 28 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 28
    (5:24 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 5 yds to the WshSt 23

    2nd & 5 at WSU 23
    (4:53 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 17 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 17
    (4:37 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 11

    2nd & 4 at WSU 11
    (4:13 - 4th) Noah Whittington run for 10 yds to the WshSt 1 for a 1ST down

    1st & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:54 - 4th) Bo Nix run for no gain to the WshSt 1

    2nd & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:48 - 4th) Cam McCormick 1 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Camden Lewis Kick)

    1st & 10 at ORE 31
    (2:35 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 8 yds to the Oregn 39

    2nd & 2 at ORE 39
    (2:11 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 2 yds to the Oregn 41 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 41
    (2:03 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    2nd & 10 at ORE 41
    (1:55 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Troy Franklin for 9 yds to the 50 yard line

    3rd & 1 at 50
    (1:21 - 4th) Troy Franklin 50 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Bo Nix Run for Two-Point Conversion)

    because you're too fucking stupid to keep up, that's 9/11 for 134 yards and two TDs in the last 4 minutes of the game, to win it.
    I think Coug's couged it more than Bo Nix did anything special. But whatever, winners win. It's Nix for now. Penix has some games down the line to step up, regardless of the retard defense he has on the other side of the ball.
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,269 Standard Supporter
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    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    TheHB said:

    Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

    Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

    Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

    If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.
    Lol.
    Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

    But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

    If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.
    You're fucking horrible at this. What other game was nix "noncompetitive"? He has 25 fucking TDs and 1 TO since UGA.

    Down 12 to WSU with 5 to play:

    1st & 10 at ORE 25
    (6:41 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 18 yds to the Oregn 43 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 43
    (6:17 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Moliki Matavao for 8 yds to the WshSt 49

    2nd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:58 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    3rd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:54 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    4th & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:48 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Bucky Irving for 21 yds to the WshSt 28 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 28
    (5:24 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 5 yds to the WshSt 23

    2nd & 5 at WSU 23
    (4:53 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 17 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 17
    (4:37 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 11

    2nd & 4 at WSU 11
    (4:13 - 4th) Noah Whittington run for 10 yds to the WshSt 1 for a 1ST down

    1st & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:54 - 4th) Bo Nix run for no gain to the WshSt 1

    2nd & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:48 - 4th) Cam McCormick 1 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Camden Lewis Kick)

    1st & 10 at ORE 31
    (2:35 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 8 yds to the Oregn 39

    2nd & 2 at ORE 39
    (2:11 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 2 yds to the Oregn 41 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 41
    (2:03 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    2nd & 10 at ORE 41
    (1:55 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Troy Franklin for 9 yds to the 50 yard line

    3rd & 1 at 50
    (1:21 - 4th) Troy Franklin 50 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Bo Nix Run for Two-Point Conversion)

    because you're too fucking stupid to keep up, that's 9/11 for 134 yards and two TDs in the last 4 minutes of the game, to win it.
    I think Coug's couged it more than Bo Nix did anything special. But whatever, winners win. It's Nix for now. Penix has some games down the line to step up, regardless of the retard defense he has on the other side of the ball.
    All you doogs do is move the goalposts.

    "Oregon had to come back to beat WSU, fucking losers"
    "Nix hasn't had to face any adversity, I'd rather have the QB that could come back from a big deficit."
    "The only reason Oregon came back is because the other team let them".
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,284
    Michael Penix, Jr. (UW)
    Good QB ≠ good team

    Here's a sprinkling of highish draft picks In their draft years

    In 2021
    Bailey Zappe lost 5 games
    Kenny Pickett lost 3 games (including to Western Michigan) as a 1st rounder
    Malik Willis lost 5 games

    In 2020
    Kyle Trask lost 4 games
    Davis Mills was 4-2

    In 2019
    Jordan love lost 6 games
    Lynn Bowden lost 5 games
    Eason lost 5 games

    In 2018
    Drew Lock lost 5 games
    Daniel Jones lost 5 games
    Will Grier lost 4 games

    In 2017
    Josh Rosen lost 7 games
    Josh Allen lost 5 games
    Lamar Jackson lost 5 games

    In 2016
    Mahomes lost 7 games
    Lamar Jackson lost 4 games (Heisman year)
    Trubisky lost 5 games
    Deshone Kizer lost 8 games

    In 2015
    Dak Prescott lost 4 games
    Jared Goff lost 5 games
    Paxton Lynch lost 4 games



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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    HuskyJW said:

    UW Defense

    In all seriousness it’s Nix. Better than Mariota

    Mariota is probably the best PAC 12 QB of the last 20 years. Nix isn’t even close to being as good as Mariota.
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    Bo Nix (Oregon)
    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    TheHB said:

    Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

    Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

    Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

    If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.
    Lol.
    Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

    But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

    If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.
    You're fucking horrible at this. What other game was nix "noncompetitive"? He has 25 fucking TDs and 1 TO since UGA.

    Down 12 to WSU with 5 to play:

    1st & 10 at ORE 25
    (6:41 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 18 yds to the Oregn 43 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 43
    (6:17 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Moliki Matavao for 8 yds to the WshSt 49

    2nd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:58 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    3rd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:54 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    4th & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:48 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Bucky Irving for 21 yds to the WshSt 28 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 28
    (5:24 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 5 yds to the WshSt 23

    2nd & 5 at WSU 23
    (4:53 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 17 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 17
    (4:37 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 11

    2nd & 4 at WSU 11
    (4:13 - 4th) Noah Whittington run for 10 yds to the WshSt 1 for a 1ST down

    1st & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:54 - 4th) Bo Nix run for no gain to the WshSt 1

    2nd & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:48 - 4th) Cam McCormick 1 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Camden Lewis Kick)

    1st & 10 at ORE 31
    (2:35 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 8 yds to the Oregn 39

    2nd & 2 at ORE 39
    (2:11 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 2 yds to the Oregn 41 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 41
    (2:03 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    2nd & 10 at ORE 41
    (1:55 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Troy Franklin for 9 yds to the 50 yard line

    3rd & 1 at 50
    (1:21 - 4th) Troy Franklin 50 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Bo Nix Run for Two-Point Conversion)

    because you're too fucking stupid to keep up, that's 9/11 for 134 yards and two TDs in the last 4 minutes of the game, to win it.
    I think Coug's couged it more than Bo Nix did anything special. But whatever, winners win. It's Nix for now. Penix has some games down the line to step up, regardless of the retard defense he has on the other side of the ball.
    All you doogs do is move the goalposts.

    "Oregon had to come back to beat WSU, fucking losers"
    "Nix hasn't had to face any adversity, I'd rather have the QB that could come back from a big deficit."
    "The only reason Oregon came back is because the other team let them".
    Hey dipshit goalpost mover. I voted for Nix. And again said it was him in the poast. Figure it out.
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,284
    Michael Penix, Jr. (UW)
    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    Stafford > Jackson, Allen

    🤡
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    Jordan >> LeBron

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,801 Founders Club
    Canadawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    Stafford > Jackson, Allen

    🤡
    Stafford has the stats and the ring over those two

    Stick to hockey eh?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,801 Founders Club
    And our Canuck seems to miss that the 4 contenders in the Pac have a higher qbr too

    I'm right

    As usual
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,801 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    Jordan >> LeBron

    Many people say that
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,284
    Michael Penix, Jr. (UW)
    RaceBannon said:

    Canadawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    Stafford > Jackson, Allen

    🤡
    Stafford has the stats and the ring over those two

    Stick to hockey eh?
    Sure. Mcdavid, Draisaitle, Matthews. No rings. You like this hill that much?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,801 Founders Club
    Canadawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Canadawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    Stafford > Jackson, Allen

    🤡
    Stafford has the stats and the ring over those two

    Stick to hockey eh?
    Sure. Mcdavid, Draisaitle, Matthews. No rings. You like this hill that much?
    I'm right

    You're wrong

    That hill?
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,284
    Michael Penix, Jr. (UW)
    RaceBannon said:

    Canadawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Canadawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    Stafford > Jackson, Allen

    🤡
    Stafford has the stats and the ring over those two

    Stick to hockey eh?
    Sure. Mcdavid, Draisaitle, Matthews. No rings. You like this hill that much?
    I'm right

    You're wrong

    That hill?
    Yikes
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    edited October 2022
    Canadawg said:

    Good QB ≠ good team

    Here's a sprinkling of highish draft picks In their draft years

    In 2021
    Bailey Zappe lost 5 games
    Kenny Pickett lost 3 games (including to Western Michigan) as a 1st rounder
    Malik Willis lost 5 games

    In 2020
    Kyle Trask lost 4 games
    Davis Mills was 4-2

    In 2019
    Jordan love lost 6 games
    Lynn Bowden lost 5 games
    Eason lost 5 games

    In 2018
    Drew Lock lost 5 games
    Daniel Jones lost 5 games
    Will Grier lost 4 games

    In 2017
    Josh Rosen lost 7 games
    Josh Allen lost 5 games
    Lamar Jackson lost 5 games

    In 2016
    Mahomes lost 7 games
    Lamar Jackson lost 4 games (Heisman year)
    Trubisky lost 5 games
    Deshone Kizer lost 8 games

    In 2015
    Dak Prescott lost 4 games
    Jared Goff lost 5 games
    Paxton Lynch lost 4 games



    Leave some words for the rest of us.

    Eh?
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    TheHB said:

    Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

    Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

    Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

    If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.
    Lol.
    Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

    But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

    If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.
    You're fucking horrible at this. What other game was nix "noncompetitive"? He has 25 fucking TDs and 1 TO since UGA.

    Down 12 to WSU with 5 to play:

    1st & 10 at ORE 25
    (6:41 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 18 yds to the Oregn 43 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 43
    (6:17 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Moliki Matavao for 8 yds to the WshSt 49

    2nd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:58 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    3rd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:54 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    4th & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:48 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Bucky Irving for 21 yds to the WshSt 28 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 28
    (5:24 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 5 yds to the WshSt 23

    2nd & 5 at WSU 23
    (4:53 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 17 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 17
    (4:37 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 11

    2nd & 4 at WSU 11
    (4:13 - 4th) Noah Whittington run for 10 yds to the WshSt 1 for a 1ST down

    1st & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:54 - 4th) Bo Nix run for no gain to the WshSt 1

    2nd & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:48 - 4th) Cam McCormick 1 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Camden Lewis Kick)

    1st & 10 at ORE 31
    (2:35 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 8 yds to the Oregn 39

    2nd & 2 at ORE 39
    (2:11 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 2 yds to the Oregn 41 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 41
    (2:03 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    2nd & 10 at ORE 41
    (1:55 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Troy Franklin for 9 yds to the 50 yard line

    3rd & 1 at 50
    (1:21 - 4th) Troy Franklin 50 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Bo Nix Run for Two-Point Conversion)

    because you're too fucking stupid to keep up, that's 9/11 for 134 yards and two TDs in the last 4 minutes of the game, to win it.
    I think Coug's couged it more than Bo Nix did anything special. But whatever, winners win. It's Nix for now. Penix has some games down the line to step up, regardless of the retard defense he has on the other side of the ball.
    All you doogs do is move the goalposts.

    "Oregon had to come back to beat WSU, fucking losers"
    "Nix hasn't had to face any adversity, I'd rather have the QB that could come back from a big deficit."
    "The only reason Oregon came back is because the other team let them".
    Hey dipshit goalpost mover. I voted for Nix. And again said it was him in the poast. Figure it out.
    I think his post was meant to be more directed at another poster. Posting is hard.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    As an unapologetic super fan of Dan Marino - not homo - and hater of all things ND, you won't be surprised to learn that it took me most of my adult life to internalize this as the truth. I covered for Marino for years and pointed out all of Montana's team advantages. In the end, I had to concede: Cool Joe > Dandy Dan. He just is.

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bo Nix (Oregon)
    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    As an unapologetic super fan of Dan Marino - not homo - and hater of all things ND, you won't be surprised to learn that it took me most of my adult life to internalize this as the truth. I covered for Marino for years and pointed out all of Montana's team advantages. In the end, I had to concede: Cool Joe > Dandy Dan. He just is.

    I also fought that for a long time. I dumped Pittsburg as my team for San Diego and their fun offense in 1981. When they faded and all their cool players were gone (i never forgave them for letting John Jefferson go), Marino took over that niche so I liked him even though I've never rooted for Miami.

    Montana benefitted from a system that protected the QB, receivers who turned quick slants into touchdowns, and defenses that could win games on their own. Marino never had those.

    Too bad for him. Joe Cool wins that contest by a mile. He was more than a system QB and made plays to win big games.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,338 Founders Club
    Michael Penix, Jr. (UW)
    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    So the top 4 in qbr are the 4 left with a shot at the title



    For those of you new to football the ring beats the stats

    Montana >> Marino
    As an unapologetic super fan of Dan Marino - not homo - and hater of all things ND, you won't be surprised to learn that it took me most of my adult life to internalize this as the truth. I covered for Marino for years and pointed out all of Montana's team advantages. In the end, I had to concede: Cool Joe > Dandy Dan. He just is.





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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,793
    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    TheHB said:

    Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

    Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

    Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

    If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.
    Lol.
    Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

    But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

    If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.
    Is this supposed to be some kind of analysis or proof to put me in my place? You basically assumed the validity of your conclusion in a couple of your premises. We call that question begging. I have no fucking idea how Penix would have fared against Ga in those same circumstances, nor do you. I just know against a common opponent, UCLA's historically oppressive home field advantage notwithstanding, Nix played great in the air and on the ground (modern QBs are judged by both) and Penix threw two horrible pix. If we're dissecting advantages and making rationalizations, Penix has a couple or three WRs better than anybody Nix throws to, Nix has a better running game and better defense. Sure, he played shitty against GA, but then Penix hasn't really played anybody other than UCLA and wasn't as good against them as was Nix. If you re-read your post, it will be evident the only one here gurgling balls is you. I'm not trying to be tough like I was with the Utah rose bowl thread. Just how I see it. Don't take it personally. I'm not saying Nix is objectively better than Penix; I am saying he's done more in league play to get the nod to date. Good news for Penix is he has three more decent teams in front of him to carve up and make his case.
    "Seems like you care" POTD.

    Did you cry to your dad after you wrote this?

    Home field is huge in CFB, if you don't get that try a new sport to follow. That's part of why Nix tucked his ween between his legs and got railed by UGA. Because that was an in-region game for GA.

    That actually happened. He got scared and fucked up at being QB the whole game. 3 points.

    Penix basically carries his entire team and is under pressure to score every drive while passing all day long. Nix has a good run game and a better defense than Penix, and he benefits from both.

    Again, Nix just had his mountain top game of the year we'll se how this shakes out. I think Penix will keep doing what he's doing and Nix will not stay hot.



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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,793
    dtd said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    TheHB said:

    Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

    Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

    Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

    If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.
    Lol.
    Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

    But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

    If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.
    You're fucking horrible at this. What other game was nix "noncompetitive"? He has 25 fucking TDs and 1 TO since UGA.

    Down 12 to WSU with 5 to play:

    1st & 10 at ORE 25
    (6:41 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 18 yds to the Oregn 43 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 43
    (6:17 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Moliki Matavao for 8 yds to the WshSt 49

    2nd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:58 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    3rd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:54 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    4th & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:48 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Bucky Irving for 21 yds to the WshSt 28 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 28
    (5:24 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 5 yds to the WshSt 23

    2nd & 5 at WSU 23
    (4:53 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 17 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 17
    (4:37 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 11

    2nd & 4 at WSU 11
    (4:13 - 4th) Noah Whittington run for 10 yds to the WshSt 1 for a 1ST down

    1st & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:54 - 4th) Bo Nix run for no gain to the WshSt 1

    2nd & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:48 - 4th) Cam McCormick 1 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Camden Lewis Kick)

    1st & 10 at ORE 31
    (2:35 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 8 yds to the Oregn 39

    2nd & 2 at ORE 39
    (2:11 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 2 yds to the Oregn 41 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 41
    (2:03 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    2nd & 10 at ORE 41
    (1:55 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Troy Franklin for 9 yds to the 50 yard line

    3rd & 1 at 50
    (1:21 - 4th) Troy Franklin 50 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Bo Nix Run for Two-Point Conversion)

    because you're too fucking stupid to keep up, that's 9/11 for 134 yards and two TDs in the last 4 minutes of the game, to win it.
    Looks like 12 points to me, not 17 dipshit.
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    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,334
    edited October 2022
    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    TheHB said:

    Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

    Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

    Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

    If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.
    Lol.
    Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

    But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

    If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.
    Is this supposed to be some kind of analysis or proof to put me in my place? You basically assumed the validity of your conclusion in a couple of your premises. We call that question begging. I have no fucking idea how Penix would have fared against Ga in those same circumstances, nor do you. I just know against a common opponent, UCLA's historically oppressive home field advantage notwithstanding, Nix played great in the air and on the ground (modern QBs are judged by both) and Penix threw two horrible pix. If we're dissecting advantages and making rationalizations, Penix has a couple or three WRs better than anybody Nix throws to, Nix has a better running game and better defense. Sure, he played shitty against GA, but then Penix hasn't really played anybody other than UCLA and wasn't as good against them as was Nix. If you re-read your post, it will be evident the only one here gurgling balls is you. I'm not trying to be tough like I was with the Utah rose bowl thread. Just how I see it. Don't take it personally. I'm not saying Nix is objectively better than Penix; I am saying he's done more in league play to get the nod to date. Good news for Penix is he has three more decent teams in front of him to carve up and make his case.
    "Seems like you care" POTD.

    Did you cry to your dad after you wrote this?

    Home field is huge in CFB, if you don't get that try a new sport to follow. That's part of why Nix tucked his ween between his legs and got railed by UGA. Because that was an in-region game for GA.

    That actually happened. He got scared and fucked up at being QB the whole game. 3 points.

    Penix basically carries his entire team and is under pressure to score every drive while passing all day long. Nix has a good run game and a better defense than Penix, and he benefits from both.

    Again, Nix just had his mountain top game of the year we'll se how this shakes out. I think Penix will keep doing what he's doing and Nix will not stay hot.



    So your super Penix has won all of 33 % of his road games. Where is your buddy Nix? Okay, I will answer that: 67%. Care to continue?




    (EVERY objective metric).
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    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    edited October 2022
    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    TheHB said:

    Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

    Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

    Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

    If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.
    Lol.
    Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

    But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

    If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.
    Is this supposed to be some kind of analysis or proof to put me in my place? You basically assumed the validity of your conclusion in a couple of your premises. We call that question begging. I have no fucking idea how Penix would have fared against Ga in those same circumstances, nor do you. I just know against a common opponent, UCLA's historically oppressive home field advantage notwithstanding, Nix played great in the air and on the ground (modern QBs are judged by both) and Penix threw two horrible pix. If we're dissecting advantages and making rationalizations, Penix has a couple or three WRs better than anybody Nix throws to, Nix has a better running game and better defense. Sure, he played shitty against GA, but then Penix hasn't really played anybody other than UCLA and wasn't as good against them as was Nix. If you re-read your post, it will be evident the only one here gurgling balls is you. I'm not trying to be tough like I was with the Utah rose bowl thread. Just how I see it. Don't take it personally. I'm not saying Nix is objectively better than Penix; I am saying he's done more in league play to get the nod to date. Good news for Penix is he has three more decent teams in front of him to carve up and make his case.
    "Seems like you care" POTD.

    Did you cry to your dad after you wrote this?

    Home field is huge in CFB, if you don't get that try a new sport to follow. That's part of why Nix tucked his ween between his legs and got railed by UGA. Because that was an in-region game for GA.

    That actually happened. He got scared and fucked up at being QB the whole game. 3 points.

    Penix basically carries his entire team and is under pressure to score every drive while passing all day long. Nix has a good run game and a better defense than Penix, and he benefits from both.

    Again, Nix just had his mountain top game of the year we'll se how this shakes out. I think Penix will keep doing what he's doing and Nix will not stay hot.



    You and Bill: the only two retards who think this is still a cool comeback, and coming from a guy who is making his case for Penix rather forcefully himself. Hard key board typing "but, but Penix!" even though I said exactly what you just said about Penix having more games against better teams left and LIPO. But as of 10/23, which was the question, the truth, and you'd be saying it loud and proud if the jerseys were switched, is that Penix and Nix each have the UCLA game to their resumes and not much else, and Nix > Penix in that game.

    Assessing the Ga. game on any basis other than Ga. being way better than Oregon is not terribly thought provoking. Keep it if you like it; IDRGAF.

    And like we say, fuck off dick licker.
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    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036
    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    dtd said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    creepycoug said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    TheHB said:

    Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

    Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

    Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

    If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.
    Lol.
    Nix is coming off his best game of the year so the ball gurgling is in high-gear.

    But going 21/37 for 173 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT, is part of why Oregon got dragged by Georgia. Nix has been noncompetitive at times this year. Just a fact.

    If your team is down 17 points who do you want at QB, Nix or Penix? That's how I judge QBs.
    You're fucking horrible at this. What other game was nix "noncompetitive"? He has 25 fucking TDs and 1 TO since UGA.

    Down 12 to WSU with 5 to play:

    1st & 10 at ORE 25
    (6:41 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 18 yds to the Oregn 43 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 43
    (6:17 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Moliki Matavao for 8 yds to the WshSt 49

    2nd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:58 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    3rd & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:54 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    4th & 2 at WSU 49
    (5:48 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Bucky Irving for 21 yds to the WshSt 28 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 28
    (5:24 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Chase Cota for 5 yds to the WshSt 23

    2nd & 5 at WSU 23
    (4:53 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 17 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at WSU 17
    (4:37 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Kris Hutson for 6 yds to the WshSt 11

    2nd & 4 at WSU 11
    (4:13 - 4th) Noah Whittington run for 10 yds to the WshSt 1 for a 1ST down

    1st & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:54 - 4th) Bo Nix run for no gain to the WshSt 1

    2nd & Goal at WSU 1
    (3:48 - 4th) Cam McCormick 1 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Camden Lewis Kick)

    1st & 10 at ORE 31
    (2:35 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 8 yds to the Oregn 39

    2nd & 2 at ORE 39
    (2:11 - 4th) Bucky Irving run for 2 yds to the Oregn 41 for a 1ST down

    1st & 10 at ORE 41
    (2:03 - 4th) Bo Nix pass incomplete

    2nd & 10 at ORE 41
    (1:55 - 4th) Bo Nix pass complete to Troy Franklin for 9 yds to the 50 yard line

    3rd & 1 at 50
    (1:21 - 4th) Troy Franklin 50 Yd pass from Bo Nix (Bo Nix Run for Two-Point Conversion)

    because you're too fucking stupid to keep up, that's 9/11 for 134 yards and two TDs in the last 4 minutes of the game, to win it.
    Looks like 12 points to me, not 17 dipshit.
    Oh Christ, you may have surpassed Bill on the retardo meter. Super awesome comeback. You suck dude.
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    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    creepycoug said:

    Canadawg said:

    Good QB ≠ good team

    Here's a sprinkling of highish draft picks In their draft years

    In 2021
    Bailey Zappe lost 5 games
    Kenny Pickett lost 3 games (including to Western Michigan) as a 1st rounder
    Malik Willis lost 5 games

    In 2020
    Kyle Trask lost 4 games
    Davis Mills was 4-2

    In 2019
    Jordan love lost 6 games
    Lynn Bowden lost 5 games
    Eason lost 5 games

    In 2018
    Drew Lock lost 5 games
    Daniel Jones lost 5 games
    Will Grier lost 4 games

    In 2017
    Josh Rosen lost 7 games
    Josh Allen lost 5 games
    Lamar Jackson lost 5 games

    In 2016
    Mahomes lost 7 games
    Lamar Jackson lost 4 games (Heisman year)
    Trubisky lost 5 games
    Deshone Kizer lost 8 games

    In 2015
    Dak Prescott lost 4 games
    Jared Goff lost 5 games
    Paxton Lynch lost 4 games



    Leave some words for the rest of us.

    Eh?
    @Tequilla thinks yore* getting soft, Ese.

    Gloves still on.


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    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,801 Founders Club
    Hot blooded Cuban appears
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