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Pac-12 - no easy wins...

I think there is a shit ton of parity in the league this year.

Asu moving the ball and hanging with USC is Chinteresting.
WSU, OSU - tougher than expected.

The conference is going to beat up on each other.

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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,824
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    It's like that every year. Colorado is the only really bad team. Arizona has the talent to make a bowl. The Condoms had quite a run in the 2000s, but they'd lose. 5-4 would get us 8-4. I don't see this team with all its deficiencies going 7-2 or 8-1.
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    CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,056
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    Georgia almost lost to Missouri. TCU blew out OK. It's college football baby
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    Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,605
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    Uw needs 42 to win at asu. Huskies are legitimately a bottom third pac defense.
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    Uw needs 42 to win at asu. Huskies are legitimately a bottom third pac defense.

    Are we? Which defense has looked good besides Utah?
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    CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,056
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    Uw needs 42 to win at asu. Huskies are legitimately a bottom third pac defense.

    Power rank the teams then. Don't be shy
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Baseman said:

    It’s hard

    It's not microwave popcorn
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    Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,605
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    Canadawg said:

    Uw needs 42 to win at asu. Huskies are legitimately a bottom third pac defense.

    Power rank the teams then. Don't be shy
    Have looked helpless on defense against non-elite programs for long stretches
    12. Colorado
    11. Arizona
    10. Stanford
    9. UW

    Have been blown out but have at least played legit top-15 teams/elite offenses
    8. Oregon
    7. Arizona St.

    Have actually kept a P5 program under 20 points or slowed down a good offense
    6. USC
    5. Cal
    4. UCLA
    3. Oregon St.
    2. WSU
    1. Utah

    They are all pretty bad-to-average but I think UW's lack of P5 athletic talent in the secondary makes them a largely helpless defense against quality passing attacks. It looks that bad.
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    CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,056
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    Canadawg said:

    Uw needs 42 to win at asu. Huskies are legitimately a bottom third pac defense.

    Power rank the teams then. Don't be shy
    Have looked helpless on defense against non-elite programs for long stretches
    12. Colorado
    11. Arizona
    10. Stanford
    9. UW

    Have been blown out but have at least played legit top-15 teams/elite offenses
    8. Oregon
    7. Arizona St.

    Have actually kept a P5 program under 20 points or slowed down a good offense
    6. USC
    5. Cal
    4. UCLA
    3. Oregon St.
    2. WSU
    1. Utah

    They are all pretty bad-to-average but I think UW's lack of P5 athletic talent in the secondary makes them a largely helpless defense against quality passing attacks. It looks that bad.
    Appreciate the effort but having a hard time with your list. I'll touch on where I disagree

    Tier 1)
    UTAH
    USC, flawed but convincing wins besides for beav
    UCLA

    Tier 2)
    Oregon, they've been more than ok since Georgia
    UW, you think Cal and ASU are better teams?
    WSU, their offense is not good and Wisconsin sucks

    Tier 3)
    OSU, they have no QB at all
    ASU
    Cal, little torn here because they should have beat ND but that's a rough L to WSU

    Tier 4)
    Arizona
    Stanford
    COL, no disagreement but at least they care enough to fire Dorell
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    TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,314
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    Sorry, Ucla isn’t a good defense. Utah is the only team with a good defense in the conference. WSU is probably next with an average D, then SC, then Beav.

    The rest is dreck.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    TheHB said:

    The thing that is most concerning is UW just doesn’t look like it wants to hit anyone.

    Girls club culture has reached the field of play.

    Many off the attempts at tackling were hilarious and embarrassing at the same time.
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    haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,459
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    TheHB said:

    Sorry, Ucla isn’t a good defense.

    That's why it was optimistic that if UW just gets one stop at the end they can score 8 points. They just scored 8 with little resistance.

    WSU's D sucks. 500+ yards minimum is the expectation, in a high school stadium.
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    Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,605
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    Canadawg said:

    Canadawg said:

    Uw needs 42 to win at asu. Huskies are legitimately a bottom third pac defense.

    Power rank the teams then. Don't be shy
    Have looked helpless on defense against non-elite programs for long stretches
    12. Colorado
    11. Arizona
    10. Stanford
    9. UW

    Have been blown out but have at least played legit top-15 teams/elite offenses
    8. Oregon
    7. Arizona St.

    Have actually kept a P5 program under 20 points or slowed down a good offense
    6. USC
    5. Cal
    4. UCLA
    3. Oregon St.
    2. WSU
    1. Utah

    They are all pretty bad-to-average but I think UW's lack of P5 athletic talent in the secondary makes them a largely helpless defense against quality passing attacks. It looks that bad.
    Appreciate the effort but having a hard time with your list. I'll touch on where I disagree

    Tier 1)
    UTAH
    USC, flawed but convincing wins besides for beav
    UCLA

    Tier 2)
    Oregon, they've been more than ok since Georgia
    UW, you think Cal and ASU are better teams?
    WSU, their offense is not good and Wisconsin sucks

    Tier 3)
    OSU, they have no QB at all
    ASU
    Cal, little torn here because they should have beat ND but that's a rough L to WSU

    Tier 4)
    Arizona
    Stanford
    COL, no disagreement but at least they care enough to fire Dorell
    I’m ranking for defense only. Overall UW is top 4 pac program this year, but the defense is bad.

    I would say usc and uw have the two best offenses.
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    CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,056
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    Canadawg said:

    Canadawg said:

    Uw needs 42 to win at asu. Huskies are legitimately a bottom third pac defense.

    Power rank the teams then. Don't be shy
    Have looked helpless on defense against non-elite programs for long stretches
    12. Colorado
    11. Arizona
    10. Stanford
    9. UW

    Have been blown out but have at least played legit top-15 teams/elite offenses
    8. Oregon
    7. Arizona St.

    Have actually kept a P5 program under 20 points or slowed down a good offense
    6. USC
    5. Cal
    4. UCLA
    3. Oregon St.
    2. WSU
    1. Utah

    They are all pretty bad-to-average but I think UW's lack of P5 athletic talent in the secondary makes them a largely helpless defense against quality passing attacks. It looks that bad.
    Appreciate the effort but having a hard time with your list. I'll touch on where I disagree

    Tier 1)
    UTAH
    USC, flawed but convincing wins besides for beav
    UCLA

    Tier 2)
    Oregon, they've been more than ok since Georgia
    UW, you think Cal and ASU are better teams?
    WSU, their offense is not good and Wisconsin sucks

    Tier 3)
    OSU, they have no QB at all
    ASU
    Cal, little torn here because they should have beat ND but that's a rough L to WSU

    Tier 4)
    Arizona
    Stanford
    COL, no disagreement but at least they care enough to fire Dorell
    I’m ranking for defense only. Overall UW is top 4 pac program this year, but the defense is bad.

    I would say usc and uw have the two best offenses.
    Gotcha. Way more sense
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