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Biden set the stage for an excuse to shift blame for the recent gas price increase

MikeDamone
MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
edited September 2022 in Tug Tavern
Prices have been going up for a couple of weeks. The “prices have fallen for 90 days” narrative is dead. Biden gave the oil companies a stern warning today that they better not “gouge” Americans because of the hurricane. Prices will continue to go up as they have been. Biden then tries to ride the “oil companies gouging because the hurricane” excuse all the way to the midterms. Cook it.

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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Simple message from a simple mind.

    "Do it now."

    FTG
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,313 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,126 Standard Supporter
    The old narrative is locked up at Gitmo. The new narrative is a clone.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Gas stations generally price their gas according to what they think the next shipment is going to be priced at, not what the last shipment received was.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Tell me you don't understand how commodities are prices with out telling me you don't understand how commodities are priced.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,633 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
    Correct, they are operating according to cash flows and not p&l. As they should. These guys aren't carrying around piles of liquid cash, it's all tied up in inventory.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
    Dont forget 10 percent for the big guy
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,126 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
    Dont forget 10 percent for the big guy
    The first 10 percent for the big guy is implied.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
    Dont forget 10 percent for the big guy
    The first 10 percent for the big guy is implied.

    Does he get the 10% off the consumer price or the 10% off at every supply chain stage like a VAT tax? Or both?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Hurtful.

    If you're a Duck dropout.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
    Could you send this to the Simpleton in the WH.

    Do it now.

    Do it now.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,633 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
    Could you send this to the Simpleton in the WH.

    Do it now.

    Do it now.
    It's just not the dementia patient. It is every dem, every one that votes for a dem, and almost every teacher and most of the PMS housewives.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,538 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    It does when perceived demand increases
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,633 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    It does when perceived demand increases actual supply is threatened
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
    @WestlinnDuck gets it. @BleachedAnusDawg, not so much.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,313 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
    Good info. Is this because the gas and oil markets are much more volatile? I've been around other consumer products and pricing is determined by what they pay to get the product built or on the shelf. In the case of gas, I have actively noticed that prices always drop slower than they rise even if the correlating change in oil prices occur at the same rate.

    I'm not paying attention to what's causing rising prices right now, but the hurricane seems like a bs excuse.

    https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6313021393112#sp=show-clips
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So the Putin price hike is officially dead?

    Ian price hike is warming up in the bull pen
    Just paid nearly $6.00 a gallon for regular. It's been rising steeply the last two weeks here in California. Good thing we've depleted our reserve
    Gas went up $.90 in less than two weeks.

    One thing that does piss me off about the gas stations is that they're pricing existing inventory at post-hurricane rates. The stuff bought last week didn't magically become $.50 more per gallon while it sat in the ground waiting to be pumped by a dropout Duck fan.
    Once again, to maintain their necessary rate of return, the price of gas has to reflect the replacement cost. If I buy gas at $4 a gallon to sell at $4.40 a gallon, I'd get a $.40 profit and the $4 to buy the next gallon. If my replacement cost goes to $5 a gallon, then I need to sell my $4 a gallon of gas at $5.50 to get my 10% profit and have $5 to buy the next gallon. Now, I would show a $1.50 profit, but I need that profit to buy the next gallon. My actual retained cash flow is only the $.50. Plus, the price of $5.50 is the market clearing price, so if you go to the pump you can actually get your gallon of gas. Demanding price controls always results in shortages.

    This is stuff that every high school senior should know about, let alone democrat politicians and every MSM alleged reporter.
    Good info. Is this because the gas and oil markets are much more volatile? I've been around other consumer products and pricing is determined by what they pay to get the product built or on the shelf. In the case of gas, I have actively noticed that prices always drop slower than they rise even if the correlating change in oil prices occur at the same rate.

    I'm not paying attention to what's causing rising prices right now, but the hurricane seems like a bs excuse.

    https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6313021393112#sp=show-clips
    Inelasticity of gas demand, which is due to lack of tradeoff options and forced urgency of purchase, also explains a lot of why it differs from consumer products in terms of pricing.