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Pentagon Was Running PSY-OP Promoting Pro-Ukraine & Anti-Russian Narratives

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,706
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    Three Ukraine provinces are going to vote on joining the B1G Russian conference

    Our leaders say it's a sham and a mockery and the election will be rigged

    Could be but I need a better source than Biden

    I support democracy
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,699
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    Three Ukraine provinces are going to vote on joining the B1G Russian conference

    Our leaders say it's a sham and a mockery and the election will be rigged

    Could be but I need a better source than Biden

    I support democracy

    I'll assume that the election will be legitimate unless a Russian or American court has a full legal proceeding finding wide spread fraud. I'm sure the Russian Courts will be all over this.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,102
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    Putin is rushing the referendums so he can claim "Ukraine is attacking the motherland!!" And declare a full mobilization and put nukes on the table.

    Could be a dangerous escalation, could be a useless political gesture before sending unarmed conscripts into the donboss meat grinder.


  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,680
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    Putin is rushing the referendums so he can claim "Ukraine is attacking the motherland!!" And declare a full mobilization and put nukes on the table.

    Could be a dangerous escalation, could be a useless political gesture before sending unarmed conscripts into the donboss meat grinder.


    According to Scott Ritter (fwiw) Putin does NOT want a full mobilization. He is only mobilizing enough to complete his stated objectives from the beginning - no NATO in UKR, removal of Nazi elements of UKR military, and regime change. Ritter claims it will take him 5 mos to get those 350k troops trained up, then another 5 mos to execute the plan.


    Long but chinteresting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_FY87Se1d8


  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,102
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    pawz said:

    Putin is rushing the referendums so he can claim "Ukraine is attacking the motherland!!" And declare a full mobilization and put nukes on the table.

    Could be a dangerous escalation, could be a useless political gesture before sending unarmed conscripts into the donboss meat grinder.


    According to Scott Ritter (fwiw) Putin does NOT want a full mobilization. He is only mobilizing enough to complete his stated objectives from the beginning - no NATO in UKR, removal of Nazi elements of UKR military, and regime change. Ritter claims it will take him 5 mos to get those 350k troops trained up, then another 5 mos to execute the plan.


    Long but chinteresting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_FY87Se1d8


    Those are all just Kremlin propaganda talking points.

    Even Putin has to balance the internal political parties(or factions) of Russia. He would fully mobilize if he could.

    The reality is Putin wants the revival of the USSR map as his legacy. He grossly underestimated what that would take. It happens when you live in a bubble of yes men. It's not hard.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,699
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    pawz said:

    Putin is rushing the referendums so he can claim "Ukraine is attacking the motherland!!" And declare a full mobilization and put nukes on the table.

    Could be a dangerous escalation, could be a useless political gesture before sending unarmed conscripts into the donboss meat grinder.


    According to Scott Ritter (fwiw) Putin does NOT want a full mobilization. He is only mobilizing enough to complete his stated objectives from the beginning - no NATO in UKR, removal of Nazi elements of UKR military, and regime change. Ritter claims it will take him 5 mos to get those 350k troops trained up, then another 5 mos to execute the plan.


    Long but chinteresting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_FY87Se1d8


    Those are all just Kremlin propaganda talking points.

    Even Putin has to balance the internal political parties(or factions) of Russia. He would fully mobilize if he could.

    The reality is Putin wants the revival of the USSR map as his legacy. He grossly underestimated what that would take. It happens when you live in a bubble of yes men. It's not hard.

    The facts turned out that the Russian military was primarily a vehicle for Russian political and military officer corruption. It isn't a war machine. Throwing more untrained and unmotivated Russians into the Ukraine is just doubling down on stupid.
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