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RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
Back in California we got a notice that the power company had a neat new way for us to "save money" by hooking up a smart meter. We opted out once then had to opt out again when they signed us up anyway. Well these poor suckers in Colorado fucked around and found out.



Climate change and green energy defends democracy. When are you fucking morons going to wake up?

Imagine believeing that America can't get enough electricity to avoid this. California just announced they would keep the last nuke plant open another 10 years in an admission of the epic stupidity of leftist green energy policy.

Environmental groups are not happy. Because its not about the environment

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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,744 Founders Club
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,554 Founders Club
    @puppylove_sugarsteel was saying this back in the 1990s
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,744 Founders Club
    Goduckies said:

    Idiots

    The idiots are the ones that paid good money for all of the smart home stuff. HGTV really did ruin society.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,651 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    Goduckies said:

    Idiots

    The idiots are the ones that paid good money for all of the smart home stuff. HGTV really did ruin society.
    Nothing wrong with a smart home. I like my programable smart thermostat. As long as I'm the one doing the programming. I can turn it up, go away for a week, then dial it down on the way home and have it comfortable by the time I get home. No way I sign up for some incompetent bureaucrat turning off my air conditioning. Deal with the real problem, the damn dirty not green super expensive renewables.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I have smart/programmable things. I also have my of thermostat I could hook up in 5 minutes if needed.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    There's a sucker born every minute.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    Good thing I’m pour.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,323 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
  • georgiaduck
    georgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,633 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bend in the River and I owned a rental home In St Simons Island Ga. for about ten years. AC bills killed us in the summer- sometimes up to $800. Best thing we did was put in a Nest to keep cooling constant. Made money back in one month.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,323 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,323 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
    To locate a car? no.

    To actually disable that's a whole different thing because not all cars in the past 10 years have connected tech. If they did cops would be using the tech now to avoid car chases, etc.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,884 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
    To locate a car? no.

    To actually disable that's a whole different thing because not all cars in the past 10 years have connected tech. If they did cops would be using the tech now to avoid car chases, etc.
    Most cops are not allowed to chase anyone anymore. Insanity.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited September 2022

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
    To locate a car? no.

    To actually disable that's a whole different thing because not all cars in the past 10 years have connected tech. If they did cops would be using the tech now to avoid car chases, etc.
    I’m talking about disabling. Not locating. And I’m not taking about the cops. I’m talking about forced rationing auto use in a “climate crisis”. Major automakers could disable millions of cars if given the order.

    But I’m sure the government would NEVER do that. Or force people to take an untested medical procedure to keep their jobs, or go to a football game. Or to carry proof of the medical procedure electronically. Or weld bars or basketball hoops. Or arrest people for laying on the beach….. or have millions of Americans rat on their neighbors for not following the rules. All is well.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,323 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
    To locate a car? no.

    To actually disable that's a whole different thing because not all cars in the past 10 years have connected tech. If they did cops would be using the tech now to avoid car chases, etc.
    Most cops are not allowed to chase anyone anymore. Insanity.
    True, but if they had tech to allow them to remotely disable vehicles on a large scale they would be using it. I have no doubt that's coming in the future.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
    To locate a car? no.

    To actually disable that's a whole different thing because not all cars in the past 10 years have connected tech. If they did cops would be using the tech now to avoid car chases, etc.
    Most cops are not allowed to chase anyone anymore. Insanity.
    True, but if they had tech to allow them to remotely disable vehicles on a large scale they would be using it. I have no doubt that's coming in the future.
    They have the tech…just waiting for the right moment. More softening still needs to happen. Covid was a trial run. It went well.
  • booker14
    booker14 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 185 Swaye's Wigwam
    The data connection in 2015 and older GM (OnStar) vehicles is 2G and it is going away this fall as they sunset all the 2G networks. I think they'll lose access to those vehicles. I just got a notice about it today. You can connect again if you download a new mobile app so they can use your phone's network.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,651 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
    To locate a car? no.

    To actually disable that's a whole different thing because not all cars in the past 10 years have connected tech. If they did cops would be using the tech now to avoid car chases, etc.
    Most cops are not allowed to chase anyone anymore. Insanity.
    True, but if they had tech to allow them to remotely disable vehicles on a large scale they would be using it. I have no doubt that's coming in the future.
    That and an active GPS system in your car so they know where you are at anytime. They were already pinging cell phone data to locate citizens at the capitol on January 6 without a warrant. Just don't call that authoritarian.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
    To locate a car? no.

    To actually disable that's a whole different thing because not all cars in the past 10 years have connected tech. If they did cops would be using the tech now to avoid car chases, etc.
    Most cops are not allowed to chase anyone anymore. Insanity.
    True, but if they had tech to allow them to remotely disable vehicles on a large scale they would be using it. I have no doubt that's coming in the future.
    That and an active GPS system in your car so they know where you are at anytime. They were already pinging cell phone data to locate citizens at the capitol on January 6 without a warrant. Just don't call that authoritarian.
    Can’t be true. I saw 2000 Mules was debunked.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,884 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2022

    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
    To locate a car? no.

    To actually disable that's a whole different thing because not all cars in the past 10 years have connected tech. If they did cops would be using the tech now to avoid car chases, etc.
    Most cops are not allowed to chase anyone anymore. Insanity.
    True, but if they had tech to allow them to remotely disable vehicles on a large scale they would be using it. I have no doubt that's coming in the future.
    Seems like a constitutional right to move about. Disabling cars for climate bullshit would seem to violate that but hey I'm no supreme court justice.

    I think has been used a time or two but I'm out of the game these days and when I was working if I wanted to shit to their car I need a warrant.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    If you own a car made in the last 10 years it can be disabled remotely.
    You sure about that? There was talk about kill switch legislation for new cars made in 2026.
    I'm sure about that. In most models it's already there.

    I can start my 2017 Chevy with a iPhone app. Chevy can disable it if I report it stolen
    If you activated OnStar, yeah. I didn't in my car. I'm sure there are some newer models where it's possible, but not all new cars have that feature. Definitely not everything of the past 10 years.
    No onstar. Also, do really think the government need you to activate onstar to disable your car?

    You seem naive
    To locate a car? no.

    To actually disable that's a whole different thing because not all cars in the past 10 years have connected tech. If they did cops would be using the tech now to avoid car chases, etc.
    Most cops are not allowed to chase anyone anymore. Insanity.
    True, but if they had tech to allow them to remotely disable vehicles on a large scale they would be using it. I have no doubt that's coming in the future.
    Seems like a constitutional right to move about. Disabling cars for climate bullshit would seem to violate that but hey I'm no supreme court justice.

    I think has been used a time or two but I'm out of the game these days and when I was working if I wanted to shit to their car I need a warrant.
    Just declare an emergency. Constitution then takes a back seat.