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That's what Jared is telling Daddy.USMChawk said:
Sure. Probably the Russians.HHusky said:
Daddy knows there was probable cause. He's just trying to figure out who flipped on him and supplied it.RaceBannon said:HHusky said:
statutes are fascistRaceBannon said:
Sure AdolfHHusky said:
But possession is the issue while any security clearance is not. And we don't know whether storage was an issue yet.USMChawk said:
As a former President he still maintains a TS clearance and also has a SCIF at Mar A Lago. If he had any TS information stored there, and it was properly stored in the SCIF, then thereโs no issue.MelloDawg said:
While president? Sure, the process is fairly straightforward.pawz said:
I assure you, you have no idea what you are talking about. POTUS and VPOTUS are the only ones in all of government with unilateral discretion to declassify.MelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he canโt say โI declassify thisโ and then itโs declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
Is 'centrist' code for not well read?
After heโs president? Much much different story, which is the essence of this argument.
If thereโs no issue with the possession and storage then why the warrant? Try not to hurt yourself.
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RaceBannon said:
Sure Adolf
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Adolf quotes TDS never-Trumpers as evidence.HHusky said:
"I'm sure that's the standard the judiciary is looking for," said no REAL lawyer ever.
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Where in the fucking weeds are you now?HHusky said:
Quoting an organization run by a pedo to cover for a pedo judge and no probable cause
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Herr Dazzler knows every nuance of what's going on with Trump... no thoughts on the press secretary.RaceBannon said:
Where in the fucking weeds are you now?HHusky said:
Quoting an organization run by a pedo to cover for a pedo judge and no probable cause
Adolf
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Maybe you missed the part where the president does what the fuck he wants to! Good lord are you the Dazzlers gay love child? I mean fags banging is how attorneys are made.AOG said:
Anybody who ever worked in any business anywhere doing anything important knows that there has to be an auditable record. Otherwise no one knows what has been declassified. So if there's no record the authorities can assume rightly it was taken without authorization. That would apply even to everyone.hardhat said:
Hello, 911? I'd like to report a murder.Swaye said:
Actually he can. As one of the only people on this board who maintained a TS/SCI for years, I feel I have more than just passing knowledge of this, and I can assure you the President can declassify anything at will. This is well established. But don't take my word for itMelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he canโt say โI declassify thisโ and then itโs declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
From Politifact in 2017:
Experts agreed that the president, as commander-in-chief, is ultimately responsible for classification and declassification. When someone lower in the chain of command handles classification and declassification duties -- which is usually how itโs done -- itโs because they have been delegated to do so by the president directly, or by an appointee chosen by the president.
The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan -- which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance -- addresses this line of authority.
"The President, after all, is the โCommander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United Statesโ" according to Article II of the Constitution, the courtโs majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."
In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the presidentโs authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."
The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders arenโt necessarily binding on the president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
So the only real question here is whether or not he did declassify it. I do not have the answer to that, but it really is as simple as Trump saying "all of this shit is now declassified." And Congress can't do fuckall about it. I figured as our resident board centrist you would want to be accurate and since you were spreading disinformation I wanted to set the record straight. You are welcome for my service. -
Citation needed.MelloDawg said:
While president? Sure, the process is fairly straightforward.pawz said:
I assure you, you have no idea what you are talking about. POTUS and VPOTUS are the only ones in all of government with unilateral discretion to declassify.MelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he canโt say โI declassify thisโ and then itโs declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
Is 'centrist' code for not well read?
After heโs president? Much much different story, which is the essence of this argument. -
There is no mole. Thatโs another FBI lie for the gullible dipshits to make the fishing expedition seem legit.
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At this point, all the Feds have is if Trump took required procedure to de classify the documents. If the Feds choose to prosecute on that, then grab your ass.MelloDawg said: -
Kreist. Statutes are by definition, related to State law.HHusky said:
statutes are fascistRaceBannon said:
Sure AdolfHHusky said:
But possession is the issue while any security clearance is not. And we don't know whether storage was an issue yet.USMChawk said:
As a former President he still maintains a TS clearance and also has a SCIF at Mar A Lago. If he had any TS information stored there, and it was properly stored in the SCIF, then thereโs no issue.MelloDawg said:
While president? Sure, the process is fairly straightforward.pawz said:
I assure you, you have no idea what you are talking about. POTUS and VPOTUS are the only ones in all of government with unilateral discretion to declassify.MelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he canโt say โI declassify thisโ and then itโs declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
Is 'centrist' code for not well read?
After heโs president? Much much different story, which is the essence of this argument.
If thereโs no issue with the possession and storage then why the warrant? Try not to hurt yourself.
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Trump decides what is and isn't classified. But we hear that several boxes were previously brought by GSA and deposited at Mar-a-lago. If there is anything there that's not on Trump. They have nothing or we would already know. They would want to drop bombs ASAP as this shit show spirals out of control.
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I'm assuming you idiotic trumptards are still explaining away Trump's theft of top secret documents... these documents contained the names of our spies and informants. He had the information in an insecure location. Nothing will ever dissuade you from the cult, I realize. Not this, not anything.
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The projection is skrong with this one.AOG said:I'm assuming you idiotic trumptards are still explaining away Trump's theft of top secret documents... these documents contained the names of our spies and informants. He had the information in an insecure location. Nothing will ever dissuade you from the cult, I realize. Not this, not anything.
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Meth make it hard to sleep.AOG said:I'm assuming you idiotic trumptards are still explaining away Trump's theft of top secret documents... these documents contained the names of our spies and informants. He had the information in an insecure location. Nothing will ever dissuade you from the cult, I realize. Not this, not anything.
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You are too stupid to insult.AOG said:I'm assuming you idiotic trumptards are still explaining away Trump's theft of top secret documents... these documents contained the names of our spies and informants. He had the information in an insecure location. Nothing will ever dissuade you from the cult, I realize. Not this, not anything.
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Congratulations ๐ just the idiocy I expected
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Reaching @MelloDawg status.AOG said:Congratulations ๐ just the idiocy I expected
Use your big boy CWU words next time.
Or expect to have the safety walked up.
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Then stop voting for the idiot communists you little commie you.AOG said:Congratulations ๐ just the idiocy I expected
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Right right...so Obama leaves with boxes of top secret documents, leaves no record of it, piles it up in a storeroom somewhere close to foot traffic (what Trump did) and you would think that was just fine.PurpleThrobber said:
Reaching @MelloDawg status.AOG said:Congratulations ๐ just the idiocy I expected
Use your big boy CWU words next time.
Or expect to have the safety walked up. -
How do you know what Obama left with? Was he ever subpoenaed?AOG said:
Right right...so Obama leaves with boxes of top secret documents, leaves no record of it, piles it up in a storeroom somewhere close to foot traffic (what Trump did) and you would think that was just fine.PurpleThrobber said:
Reaching @MelloDawg status.AOG said:Congratulations ๐ just the idiocy I expected
Use your big boy CWU words next time.
Or expect to have the safety walked up. -
They inventory this shit EinsteinSFGbob said:
How do you know what Obama left with? Was he ever subpoenaed?AOG said:
Right right...so Obama leaves with boxes of top secret documents, leaves no record of it, piles it up in a storeroom somewhere close to foot traffic (what Trump did) and you would think that was just fine.PurpleThrobber said:
Reaching @MelloDawg status.AOG said:Congratulations ๐ just the idiocy I expected
Use your big boy CWU words next time.
Or expect to have the safety walked up. -
They're fishing to try to legally expel him from running again. At best, it's a vague search. At worst, it's banana republic witch hunt level shit. I was by Mar a Lago in December. It's got SS all around it. If you stop in the parking lot across the street, they'll approach you. This happened to us. Some rando is not going to walk in and grab the nuclear code.AOG said:
Right right...so Obama leaves with boxes of top secret documents, leaves no record of it, piles it up in a storeroom somewhere close to foot traffic (what Trump did) and you would think that was just fine.PurpleThrobber said:
Reaching @MelloDawg status.AOG said:Congratulations ๐ just the idiocy I expected
Use your big boy CWU words next time.
Or expect to have the safety walked up. -
No actually he simply left with top secret documents and refused to return them. These documents contain information about our spies for one thing.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
They're fishing to try to legally expel him from running again. At best, it's a vague search. At worst, it's banana republic witch hunt level shit. I was by Mar a Lago in December. It's got SS all around it. If you stop in the parking lot across the street, they'll approach you. This happened to us. Some rando is not going to walk in and grab the nuclear code.AOG said:
Right right...so Obama leaves with boxes of top secret documents, leaves no record of it, piles it up in a storeroom somewhere close to foot traffic (what Trump did) and you would think that was just fine.PurpleThrobber said:
Reaching @MelloDawg status.AOG said:Congratulations ๐ just the idiocy I expected
Use your big boy CWU words next time.
Or expect to have the safety walked up. -
I think the Constitution explains it pretty well. Dems seem to always forget about that silly thing.
