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This was the beginning of the end of Don James at UW
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You still here? Crazy!RaceBannon said:
Its so embarrassing for H that he is compelled to keep digging deeperhardhat said:This thread is still going? sheesh.
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I'm declaring victory.
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3-1 in bowl games with two top 25 finishes in the stretch that H said would have been a shoo-in to fire Don James.
I'm sold. Dazzler and his ilk killed husky football. -
I didn’t know you ever followed the minutiae of Husky football and cared so much.
It’s interesting that (a minimum of) 10,000 Husky fans traveled to Eugene during Don James’ down period in the 80’s.
Oregon averaged approximately 30,000 fans per game during that era (except when the Dawgs came to town).
If somebody was calling for Don James’ head during that “down period”, the fans certainly didn’t get the message.
Amazing how many autos in the Portland metro area were decked out in purple and gold during this era. -
Hell of a hill to die on.46XiJCAB said:Dazzler struggling to the bitter end is the tell.
Imagine being pissed off about this. -
Gerberdung and Babs let James hang in the wind. He wouldn't back up a great football coach and a good guy. The stuff we got popped for is like a jaywalking ticket in the SEC and for Texass schools. Bad take DazzlerHHusky said:
That stretch from '85 to '88 was similar to Lambright's tenure. It might not get you fired, but it could. And again, if Gerberding had wanted James gone, he would have gotten minimal backlash after the '88 season. But he didn't want James gone; he didn't hate athletics; and he wasn't some radical lefty. The whole "upper campus was out to get Don James" nonsense has been made up out of whole cloth by a fan base that conflates its every frustration with its politics. It's especially silly because Don James wasn't fired. He could probably have coached at the UW as long as he wanted.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
He proved himself from '77 to '84 or whatever the first good stretch was, then again in the early 90s. The only guy to approach him was Peterson, who never really won the big one and lost in big bowl games. At least you're not a doog, but that part of the 80s was down time, it wasn't toilet time.HHusky said:
1985 was awful and featured a home loss to an absolutely terrible Oregon State as well as three non-competitive losses.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
8-2-1 regular season in '86. They mauled THE Ohio State.HHusky said:
Rose Bowls after the seasons of 1990, 1991 and 1992.WestlinnDuck said:
I thought that the Huskies went to the Rose Bowl for seasons 1989-1991 and when the story broke about the loan that the Huskies were 8-0 and ranked Number 1 in the country. Who was whispering that "the game had passed him by?" Seems like a pretty good run.HHusky said:
Four mediocre seasons in a row. Audible whispers that "the game has passed him by."46XiJCAB said:
That second consecutive loss to Oregon in 88' brought out the worst in Husky fans.HHusky said:
Majority of the UW fans on the bored would have cheered DJ's firing at the end of the '88 season. Some of them were calling for it.46XiJCAB said:Dazzler struggling to the bitter end is the tell.
Just the facts, ma'am.
Beat Oregon,
Nothing else matters.
And nobody gave an extra shit about Oregon in 1988 except Oregon State.
Seasons of 1985-88 were awful. Painful.
It was a mediocre stretch. Bammer had those before they stopped investigating the SUCKEC elite about 12-15 years ago because Emmert's a corrupt cocksucker. You're reaching.
1986 was the best of the 4; still, we were non-competitive in a bowl loss.
1987 was mediocre and we were non-competitive in three of our losses.
1988, in retrospect, may have reflected a turning of the corner in the sense of being competitive in all games, but snapped our consecutive bowl streak and seemed like a dud at the time.
Coaches get fired at big-time programs for stretches like this. The drop from 1984 was precipitous.
And James shouldn't have made an appearance at a campaign rally for anyone. It was bad judgment. But it didn't have anything to do with anything in 1993. -
Petty and envious, the Pac-9 was going to fuck us--and ended up fucking itself in the process. Bill and Babs simply were left with bad alternatives. But it takes tv money to fund an athletic department, so they chose their sentence accordingly.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Gerberdung and Babs let James hang in the wind. He wouldn't back up a great football coach and a good guy. The stuff we got popped for is like a jaywalking ticket in the SEC and for Texass schools. Bad take DazzlerHHusky said:
That stretch from '85 to '88 was similar to Lambright's tenure. It might not get you fired, but it could. And again, if Gerberding had wanted James gone, he would have gotten minimal backlash after the '88 season. But he didn't want James gone; he didn't hate athletics; and he wasn't some radical lefty. The whole "upper campus was out to get Don James" nonsense has been made up out of whole cloth by a fan base that conflates its every frustration with its politics. It's especially silly because Don James wasn't fired. He could probably have coached at the UW as long as he wanted.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
He proved himself from '77 to '84 or whatever the first good stretch was, then again in the early 90s. The only guy to approach him was Peterson, who never really won the big one and lost in big bowl games. At least you're not a doog, but that part of the 80s was down time, it wasn't toilet time.HHusky said:
1985 was awful and featured a home loss to an absolutely terrible Oregon State as well as three non-competitive losses.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
8-2-1 regular season in '86. They mauled THE Ohio State.HHusky said:
Rose Bowls after the seasons of 1990, 1991 and 1992.WestlinnDuck said:
I thought that the Huskies went to the Rose Bowl for seasons 1989-1991 and when the story broke about the loan that the Huskies were 8-0 and ranked Number 1 in the country. Who was whispering that "the game had passed him by?" Seems like a pretty good run.HHusky said:
Four mediocre seasons in a row. Audible whispers that "the game has passed him by."46XiJCAB said:
That second consecutive loss to Oregon in 88' brought out the worst in Husky fans.HHusky said:
Majority of the UW fans on the bored would have cheered DJ's firing at the end of the '88 season. Some of them were calling for it.46XiJCAB said:Dazzler struggling to the bitter end is the tell.
Just the facts, ma'am.
Beat Oregon,
Nothing else matters.
And nobody gave an extra shit about Oregon in 1988 except Oregon State.
Seasons of 1985-88 were awful. Painful.
It was a mediocre stretch. Bammer had those before they stopped investigating the SUCKEC elite about 12-15 years ago because Emmert's a corrupt cocksucker. You're reaching.
1986 was the best of the 4; still, we were non-competitive in a bowl loss.
1987 was mediocre and we were non-competitive in three of our losses.
1988, in retrospect, may have reflected a turning of the corner in the sense of being competitive in all games, but snapped our consecutive bowl streak and seemed like a dud at the time.
Coaches get fired at big-time programs for stretches like this. The drop from 1984 was precipitous.
And James shouldn't have made an appearance at a campaign rally for anyone. It was bad judgment. But it didn't have anything to do with anything in 1993.
James had a choice too--whether to coach through a two-year bowl ban or not. I don't begrudge him saying it wasn't in him, but he made the choice. Sad situation. But you should stop letting the conference off the hook. -
Only a dipshit like you would play that game.HHusky said:
Don James said he had to resign in August, 1993 because he gave Reagan a football in 1984?RaceBannon said:
Your hearsayHHusky said:
My hearsay is vastly superior to Derek's. It didn't come from an agenda or desire for a "hot take". It came from a Reagan and Bush voter, in fact. It spans several UW Presidents and James's entire tenure at UW.WestlinnDuck said:
As usual, the dazzler's story makes no sense. On the other hand, having actually gone to a large state university, the left hated Nixon and they hated Reagan even more than the Bush's did. You can feel the Reagan hatred from the dazzler, someone he claims he voted for. Like the decline of America, the decline of Washington football was an administrative choice.RaceBannon said:
meltdownHHusky said:
This is unmitigated horseshit.RaceBannon said:Dr. William Gerberding (no one ever called him “Bill”), President, University of Washington, held an animus toward major college sports, believing their popularity was a convolution of priorities, and was further rankled by the esteem with which Washington Head Coach Don James was held on campus (he was just a football coach, after all).
As it was explained to me, Gerberding’s politics were a little to the left of Barney Frank while James’ convictions, of course, were not. This further aggravated Gerberding as evidenced by Gerberding’s reaction when President George H. W. Bush, while in Seattle, invited James to join him (the two had met when the national champion Huskies visited Washington D.C.). Gerberding had not been similarly invited – apparently in Gerberding’s mind, a slight. Gerberding believed Bush invited James because James was a Republican, perhaps active in the party, and Gerberding read James the riot act for mixing politics with football.
James, who served in the army and has great affection for his country, reminded Gerberding that Bush was the President of the United States and, regardless of party, when the President of the United States invites you to dinner, you go. It’s a great honor. If the president was Lyndon Johnson, James would go. Jimmy Carter. But it didn’t explain why Gerberding wasn’t invited. Although, considering Gerberding’s political convictions, he probably would have declined the invitation had one been extended, Gerberding was not mollified.
Like anyone is going to take your word for it Sally
Bill Gerberding was a left winger? Sure. And Sled says I'm a Communist.
Our articles and sourced information including Don F James himself
Fuck off
I think only Derek is saying that. -
1989 was actually the year after 1988. (Glad I could help.)Doogles said:
3-1 in bowl games with two top 25 finishes in the stretch that H said would have been a shoo-in to fire Don James.
I'm sold. Dazzler and his ilk killed husky football.
Can't go 3-1 in bowls when you only played three bowls after the four seasons in question. (Ditto)
We did go 2 - 1 in bowls during the stretch I mentioned. (Take that, Tulane!)
