USC/UCLA Wants to Shut the Door
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46XiJCAB said:
I pointed out that the Ducks have yet to win a 1/2 natty.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Remember the Duck glory days that resulted in no Natties?46XiJCAB said:
I guess for fans of some of these schools being able to cuddle up with their glory days at bedtime is nice.whatshouldicareabout said:
and Nebraska fans, Florida fans, Florida State fans, Miami fans, Notre Dame fans, Michigan fans, Bama fans, Tennessee fans, A&M fans, Colorado fans...46XiJCAB said:RaceBannon said:You can go back to horse and buggy and Oregon still hasn't won shit
1991 BC.RaceBannon said:You can go back to horse and buggy and Oregon still hasn't won shit
Before Cellphones.
A great team.
NOC about the 90’s.
Except grunge fans.
I wonder if there's a power 5 program who has a lower appreciation for the history of college football than ducks
You're horrible at this.46XiJCAB said: -
https://tiptop25.com/fixing1984.html
"BYU '84 differs from those other teams in another way too: they did not play a single ranked opponent. The only so-called "national champion" that didn't (though Oklahoma came very close in 1956).
BYU's 1984 opponents went 61-85-3, placing their schedule 96th amongst 98 division 1A schools. And yet their performance was as weak as their schedule. They won five games by a touchdown or less, from a 20-14 win at 3-7-1 Pitt in their opener to a 24-17 win against 6-6 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl-- by far the worst bowl opponent ever faced by a so-called "national champion." How bad was Michigan? They finished 6th in the Big Ten, and the Big Ten was a horrid 12-15 against nonconference opponents and 1-5 in bowl games.
Let's start by comparing them to #2 Washington (11-1). Washington took a 16-7 upset loss at #10 Southern Cal (9-3), but since BYU did not play a team ranked so highly (or ranked at all), we can't fairly compare that result to any of BYU's. Washington's schedule was weak, and the only rated team they defeated was #6 Oklahoma (9-2-1) 28-17 in the Orange Bowl. Still, that is of course far more than BYU accomplished. And Washington's performance was very strong too. All but one of their 11 wins was by more than a touchdown (the only close game was 17-10 over 6-5 Oregon). That's 4 fewer close wins than BYU. This comparison is a blowout for Washington, and should not even be a debate at all. Washington even dominated BYU's bowl opponent, Michigan, in Ann Arbor. The final score was 20-11, but Michigan scored a touchdown and a 2-pointer in the closing seconds to make it look closer than it was. BYU, on the other hand, had to rally for 2 4th quarter touchdowns to beat Michigan on a neutral field, scoring the winner with under 2 minutes left."
Sorry for the text wall but I don't understand why UW doesn't claim '84. Blatant. -
Bottom line: Seattle TV market is coveted and networks want it. Is it really still a question that money informs these decisions?
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Do what Washington did with the 1960 Helms Bakery Natty.Canadawg said:https://tiptop25.com/fixing1984.html
"BYU '84 differs from those other teams in another way too: they did not play a single ranked opponent. The only so-called "national champion" that didn't (though Oklahoma came very close in 1956).
BYU's 1984 opponents went 61-85-3, placing their schedule 96th amongst 98 division 1A schools. And yet their performance was as weak as their schedule. They won five games by a touchdown or less, from a 20-14 win at 3-7-1 Pitt in their opener to a 24-17 win against 6-6 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl-- by far the worst bowl opponent ever faced by a so-called "national champion." How bad was Michigan? They finished 6th in the Big Ten, and the Big Ten was a horrid 12-15 against nonconference opponents and 1-5 in bowl games.
Let's start by comparing them to #2 Washington (11-1). Washington took a 16-7 upset loss at #10 Southern Cal (9-3), but since BYU did not play a team ranked so highly (or ranked at all), we can't fairly compare that result to any of BYU's. Washington's schedule was weak, and the only rated team they defeated was #6 Oklahoma (9-2-1) 28-17 in the Orange Bowl. Still, that is of course far more than BYU accomplished. And Washington's performance was very strong too. All but one of their 11 wins was by more than a touchdown (the only close game was 17-10 over 6-5 Oregon). That's 4 fewer close wins than BYU. This comparison is a blowout for Washington, and should not even be a debate at all. Washington even dominated BYU's bowl opponent, Michigan, in Ann Arbor. The final score was 20-11, but Michigan scored a touchdown and a 2-pointer in the closing seconds to make it look closer than it was. BYU, on the other hand, had to rally for 2 4th quarter touchdowns to beat Michigan on a neutral field, scoring the winner with under 2 minutes left."
Sorry for the text wall but I don't understand why UW doesn't claim '84. Blatant.
Announce it approx. 47 years later and raise that banner in Husky Stadium.
BTW: UW finished No. 5 in the coaches poll (UPI) and No. 6 in the AP poll at the end of the season.
You make a more compelling case than for the 1984 Title than for the1960 Helms Bakery Natty. Wasn’t that when virtually all of the football players were white?
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“Just Do It”Canadawg said:https://tiptop25.com/fixing1984.html
"BYU '84 differs from those other teams in another way too: they did not play a single ranked opponent. The only so-called "national champion" that didn't (though Oklahoma came very close in 1956).
BYU's 1984 opponents went 61-85-3, placing their schedule 96th amongst 98 division 1A schools. And yet their performance was as weak as their schedule. They won five games by a touchdown or less, from a 20-14 win at 3-7-1 Pitt in their opener to a 24-17 win against 6-6 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl-- by far the worst bowl opponent ever faced by a so-called "national champion." How bad was Michigan? They finished 6th in the Big Ten, and the Big Ten was a horrid 12-15 against nonconference opponents and 1-5 in bowl games.
Let's start by comparing them to #2 Washington (11-1). Washington took a 16-7 upset loss at #10 Southern Cal (9-3), but since BYU did not play a team ranked so highly (or ranked at all), we can't fairly compare that result to any of BYU's. Washington's schedule was weak, and the only rated team they defeated was #6 Oklahoma (9-2-1) 28-17 in the Orange Bowl. Still, that is of course far more than BYU accomplished. And Washington's performance was very strong too. All but one of their 11 wins was by more than a touchdown (the only close game was 17-10 over 6-5 Oregon). That's 4 fewer close wins than BYU. This comparison is a blowout for Washington, and should not even be a debate at all. Washington even dominated BYU's bowl opponent, Michigan, in Ann Arbor. The final score was 20-11, but Michigan scored a touchdown and a 2-pointer in the closing seconds to make it look closer than it was. BYU, on the other hand, had to rally for 2 4th quarter touchdowns to beat Michigan on a neutral field, scoring the winner with under 2 minutes left."
Sorry for the text wall but I don't understand why UW doesn't claim '84. Blatant. -
He’s got enough acid saved up in his disintegrating bones to do the same shit he always does.whatshouldicareabout said:
I'm curious what Bill Walton will doRaceBannon said:
But the key is being able to watch their networkwhlinder said:Big 10 culture is weird. Seeing the ads for Case IH to buy a combine when watching their network is so out of place for my global suburban country club self.
But It also has that old school stodgy holier than thou view.
What a concept
I like the history shows. Can't wait for Big 10 legend John McKay
Walton is actually really insightful, loyal, and a super nice guy if you read his quotes instead of hearing them. But he’ll get over the loss of his beloved conference.
A couple of months ago I was smoking outside of a Lucille’s in Orange and I see a tall, like seven feet, gray haired old man talking or arguing with a woman in the parking lot. He’s wearing a powder blue UCLA polo. It’s Bill Fucking Walton. It’s gotta be. Is his wife Asian? Look it up. Yup. Gotta be Bill Walton. How many seven foot tall old men wearing UCLA polos could there be? I fake cough *Bill. Bill* and no reaction. He’s probably nearly deaf from all the shitty jam band concerts. Why is a vegetarian arguing with his wife outside of a shitty chain BBQ restaurant? No idea, but I don’t judge people for where they have their domestic squabbles. -
His autobiography is great. His youth playing with ABA players, his time at UCLA, his early career, the FBI wire taps, the relationship with the Dead, his time with the Celtics and the nuclear destruction of his back and feet. I listened to him read it on my commutes to work. Amazing.RatherBeBrewing said:
He’s got enough acid saved up in his disintegrating bones to do the same shit he always does.whatshouldicareabout said:
I'm curious what Bill Walton will doRaceBannon said:
But the key is being able to watch their networkwhlinder said:Big 10 culture is weird. Seeing the ads for Case IH to buy a combine when watching their network is so out of place for my global suburban country club self.
But It also has that old school stodgy holier than thou view.
What a concept
I like the history shows. Can't wait for Big 10 legend John McKay
Walton is actually really insightful, loyal, and a super nice guy if you read his quotes instead of hearing them. But he’ll get over the loss of his beloved conference.
A couple of months ago I was smoking outside of a Lucille’s in Orange and I see a tall, like seven feet, gray haired old man talking or arguing with a woman in the parking lot. He’s wearing a powder blue UCLA polo. It’s Bill Fucking Walton. It’s gotta be. Is his wife Asian? Look it up. Yup. Gotta be Bill Walton. How many seven foot tall old men wearing UCLA polos could there be? I fake cough *Bill. Bill* and no reaction. He’s probably nearly deaf from all the shitty jam band concerts. Why is a vegetarian arguing with his wife outside of a shitty chain BBQ restaurant? No idea, but I don’t judge people for where they have their domestic squabbles. -
Walton is god.
Love that crazy red headed motherfucker.
