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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,641
    Eklund said he doesn't expect in-state 4* CB Caleb Pressley to visit UW at all. He was supposedly there this week but it was "not a football-related visit". A couple months ago he was seen as a pretty big UW lean and now they can't even get him to spend the weekend there and get a free $300 dinner. Pretty pathetic.

    I'm seeing 3 possibilities here with this staff
    1- they simply aren't concerned with recruiting because they arrogantly think that they can coach anyone up and think kids should be coming to them
    2) DeBoer is already regretting taking the UW job/ frustrated with NIL disadvantage and is not putting any extra effort into recruiting
    3) this staff actually has done their due diligence and thinks some of these low ranked guys are just as good or better than the high-ranked FSP guys.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,951 Founders Club

    Eklund said he doesn't expect in-state 4* CB Caleb Pressley to visit UW at all. He was supposedly there this week but it was "not a football-related visit". A couple months ago he was seen as a pretty big UW lean and now they can't even get him to spend the weekend there and get a free $300 dinner. Pretty pathetic.

    I'm seeing 3 possibilities here with this staff
    1- they simply aren't concerned with recruiting because they arrogantly think that they can coach anyone up and think kids should be coming to them
    2) DeBoer is already regretting taking the UW job/ frustrated with NIL disadvantage and is not putting any extra effort into recruiting
    3) this staff actually has done their due diligence and thinks some of these low ranked guys are just as good or better than the high-ranked FSP guys.

    #1 stinks of Jimmy Lake. Please god no.
    #2 feels right.
    #3 is what doogs say as truth and optimists pray for. Me? Unless KDB and staff are unicorns that love the challenge of acquiring talent with both hands tied and just can’t imagine themselves leaving our two months of great weather then they will bolt as soon as they win enough to get an offer out of here.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259

    Eklund said he doesn't expect in-state 4* CB Caleb Pressley to visit UW at all. He was supposedly there this week but it was "not a football-related visit". A couple months ago he was seen as a pretty big UW lean and now they can't even get him to spend the weekend there and get a free $300 dinner. Pretty pathetic.

    I'm seeing 3 possibilities here with this staff
    1- they simply aren't concerned with recruiting because they arrogantly think that they can coach anyone up and think kids should be coming to them
    2) DeBoer is already regretting taking the UW job/ frustrated with NIL disadvantage and is not putting any extra effort into recruiting
    3) this staff actually has done their due diligence and thinks some of these low ranked guys are just as good or better than the high-ranked FSP guys.

    It’s probably more of 2 than anything else minus DeBoer regretting taking the job because he gets his cash bag regardless

    The reality that may be hitting him though is that our NIL approach is absolute garbage with respect to HS kids in particular

    Given that there’s some 1/3 in there with the added element of leveraging the portal for guys that are undervalued there

    The recruiting failures start up in the AD
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,732 Founders Club
    godawgst said:

    haie said:

    godawgst said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Always a good day to lose an in-state player to USC while picking up an “under the radar diamond in the rough” player out of DFW …

    BTW, DFW players aren’t typically under the radar

    We beat out UConn and South Alabama for this kid. Juice Brown picking up where Terrence and Willip left off

    He has an offer from Utah from a month ago, but still.
    Same Utah who you said only was good last two years b/c SC, UW and UCLA sucked?

    #cherrypick
    They've always had a solid/good defense.

    I said they only *won the conference* because those other schools were down; Offense and getting skill players means you can be good but still lose to a burned out coach 10-3 in the conference championship game.

    Are we done here?
    UW can recruit and sign 100 kids with the exact same offer sheet at every position as the db that signed today, and you can even change out a Utah for a SC, Oregon, UCLA, etc etc wherever you want.

    What would your expectation be for a average season for us even in the Pac-12?

    There is no way to spin that offer sheet into a positive no matter how hard you try.

    What was/is the sense of urgency to sign him middle of June?

    If this is really KD and his staff's best option that says it all.

    I'm not even trying dipshit. A team that was a few plays from a rose bowl victory last year offered the kid, and they have a similar track record on developing defensive players.

    If you're shitting on a getting a kid like that you're a fucking idiot.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,518 Standard Supporter
    Haie could write for RealDawg in his downtime.

    He doesn’t have a downtime because he’s too busy pounding Michter’s and cleaning out the distressed tee shirt aisle at American Eagle Outfitters(like any self-respecting executive) but you get the point.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,732 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    Haie could write for RealDawg in his downtime.

    He doesn’t have a downtime because he’s too busy pounding Michter’s and cleaning out the distressed tee shirt aisle at American Eagle Outfitters(like any self-respecting executive) but you get the point.

    Rent. Fucking. Free.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,518 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    thechatch said:

    Haie could write for RealDawg in his downtime.

    He doesn’t have a downtime because he’s too busy pounding Michter’s and cleaning out the distressed tee shirt aisle at American Eagle Outfitters(like any self-respecting executive) but you get the point.

    Rent. Fucking. Free.
    I just can’t stop thinking about you.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,614 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tequilla said:

    godawgst said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Always a good day to lose an in-state player to USC while picking up an “under the radar diamond in the rough” player out of DFW …

    BTW, DFW players aren’t typically under the radar

    We beat out UConn and South Alabama for this kid. Juice Brown picking up where Terrence and Willip left off

    He has an offer from Utah from a month ago, but still.
    Same Utah who you said only was good last two years b/c SC, UW and UCLA sucked?

    #cherrypick
    He isn’t the worst poster here for nothing
    #trudat
    haie said:

    godawgst said:

    haie said:

    godawgst said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    Always a good day to lose an in-state player to USC while picking up an “under the radar diamond in the rough” player out of DFW …

    BTW, DFW players aren’t typically under the radar

    We beat out UConn and South Alabama for this kid. Juice Brown picking up where Terrence and Willip left off

    He has an offer from Utah from a month ago, but still.
    Same Utah who you said only was good last two years b/c SC, UW and UCLA sucked?

    #cherrypick
    They've always had a solid/good defense.

    I said they only *won the conference* because those other schools were down; Offense and getting skill players means you can be good but still lose to a burned out coach 10-3 in the conference championship game.

    Are we done here?
    UW can recruit and sign 100 kids with the exact same offer sheet at every position as the db that signed today, and you can even change out a Utah for a SC, Oregon, UCLA, etc etc wherever you want.

    What would your expectation be for a average season for us even in the Pac-12?

    There is no way to spin that offer sheet into a positive no matter how hard you try.

    What was/is the sense of urgency to sign him middle of June?

    If this is really KD and his staff's best option that says it all.

    I'm not even trying dipshit. A team that was a few plays from a rose bowl victory last year offered the kid, and they have a similar track record on developing defensive players.

    If you're shitting on a getting a kid like that you're a fucking idiot.
    I'm not shitting on the kid, and if I was him, I would run to accept either UW or Utah (how serious or committable their offer is I question but putting that aside) scholarship campus site unseen as he did.

    I'm crapping on how this staff is getting completely blown out and uncompetitive in recruiting although with our NIL stance it is not surprising.

    You saw Utah as being a few plays from winning the Rose Bowl. I saw Ohio State not want to be the 1st half, walked in at halftime (per Ryan Day) and the leaders stood up and said "were not going out like this" then proceeded to win the 2nd half 27-3 and do anything they wanted with 5 minutes left in the game.

    Just a guess, but Ohio State doesn't offer, sign or look at what the majority of our class is going to be.

    We will never be them, but we shouldn't be going up against MWC schools to fill our class with either.

    It's okay Ballz, there's a place for you here. Every court needs a jester.



  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,841 Swaye's Wigwam

    Eklund said he doesn't expect in-state 4* CB Caleb Pressley to visit UW at all. He was supposedly there this week but it was "not a football-related visit". A couple months ago he was seen as a pretty big UW lean and now they can't even get him to spend the weekend there and get a free $300 dinner. Pretty pathetic.

    I'm seeing 3 possibilities here with this staff
    1- they simply aren't concerned with recruiting because they arrogantly think that they can coach anyone up and think kids should be coming to them
    2) DeBoer is already regretting taking the UW job/ frustrated with NIL disadvantage and is not putting any extra effort into recruiting
    3) this staff actually has done their due diligence and thinks some of these low ranked guys are just as good or better than the high-ranked FSP guys.

    Holy shit, it's all legal and in the open now and we STILL can't accept that the correct answer is

    4.) DeBoner is working his ass off, cares a lot, and he and the staff are doing all they can, but they can't even get kids to answer the phone anymore after they ask what the cash offer is and DeBoner tells them the truth.
    This is the answer. It's simple and obvious.

    It's not just the lack of cash bags though. Bad recruiting, like Sark at UW calibe, takes a couple of years to recover from. Petersen recovered by snagging an amazing class of Mtn west recruits for his first at UW. Later he started having success going against the big boys, really in year three.

    So...well...that's all. I don't know if there's any silver lining or hope for better days. I'm just saying there still might be.