Where DeBoer Ranks on Early Power 5 Football Coaches' List

RaceBannon said:

Tequilla said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Tequilla said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Tequilla said:

RaceBannon said:

Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches

Matt Campbell - The Kirk Ferentz of Iowa State!

Ringing endorsement for hiring him.

People that act like Ferentz is a bad coach amuse me

The point for both is that there are ceilings of what you can accomplish at both places and both coaches have pushed their schools up against those barriers

The fact that both programs are nationally relevant is more of a testament to them than an indictment

He’s a good developer and Iowa seems to get some good players to the NFL, but he’s never had a good offense. They are also the type of program that will have an All American type at one LB spot and the other has cement in his shoes.

He’s far from a perfect coach

I think most don’t understand how difficult it is to win big big at Iowa

Ferentz is a doog legend that was used to prop up Ty

Your take on him is on par with your Emmert take at the same time

Act like you're high standards guy now but your doog always shows through

Mediocre is not something to aspire to

Hth

I’ve always had high standards and can’t stand sustained mediocrity

Given the current trending at UW … Ferentz looks like a great safe baseline

UW should aspire to do better than what Ferentz has for his ceiling

Not sure how Lanning comes in at 54. This is a list of head coaches, and he has yet to coach a game. Like they say ‘He sucks until he doesn’t’!

haie said:

thechatch said:

Throwing money at Campbell would have at least shown me that someone in the UW Admin gives a shit about football…

Instead they pinched pennies on a WAC coach.

Yawn.

Throwing money at a coach who had one good season where he beat Oregon and never won his conference? That's a very UW hire but no, that would be dumb af.

UW made a bottom line decision and Deboer was clearly a cost-prudent hire that doogs can talk themselves into liking and may…just may deliver a 9 or 10 win season during his time at U-Dub, if everything falls just right.

And that’s fine, because that’s what admin has decided is “good enough” for this fanbase. Just like Justin Wilcox is “good enough” to stay at Cal. We’ll see if he can “coach em up” and we’ll see just how good of a talent evaluator/play caller he is, because his recruiting is MWC-level, where, coincidentally, he also ALMOST won 10 games last year and ALMOST won the MWC.

Matt Campbell also almost won 10 games at Iowa St, but that was in the Big12 and he has a NYD Bowl Win under his belt, and it looks like his recruiting will be better in shit-ass Ames, Iowa than Deboer will in “The Greatest Setting”.

I sincerely hope this helps.

Gene Chizik went 2-10 and 3-9 in his two years in Ames and then won a Natty at Auburn yr 1.

Dan McCarney coached 12 fucking years there and won 9 games exactly once and 7 games twice. The remaining 9 years were a bunch of 3-9 and 2-10 pants shittings.

Ames is the worst job in the B12. No one has even mildly succeeded there, except Campbell.

Of course he would have been a better hire than DeBoer.

ntxduck said:

RaceBannon said:

Iowa State fans hoped he left

The dumb ones, sure. Campbell is coach in waiting at Ohio state. The job is his when day tries the nfl

I think you’re confusing him with Fickell

ntxduck said:

RaceBannon said:

Iowa State fans hoped he left

The dumb ones, sure. Campbell is coach in waiting at Ohio state. The job is his when day tries the nfl

I doubt that. I’ll take the field.

Tequilla said:

thechatch said:

haie said:

thechatch said:

Throwing money at Campbell would have at least shown me that someone in the UW Admin gives a shit about football…

Instead they pinched pennies on a WAC coach.

Yawn.

Throwing money at a coach who had one good season where he beat Oregon and never won his conference? That's a very UW hire but no, that would be dumb af.

UW made a bottom line decision and Deboer was clearly a cost-prudent hire that doogs can talk themselves into liking and may…just may deliver a 9 or 10 win season during his time at U-Dub, if everything falls just right.

And that’s fine, because that’s what admin has decided is “good enough” for this fanbase. Just like Justin Wilcox is “good enough” to stay at Cal. We’ll see if he can “coach em up” and we’ll see just how good of a talent evaluator/play caller he is, because his recruiting is MWC-level, where, coincidentally, he also ALMOST won 10 games last year and ALMOST won the MWC.

Matt Campbell also almost won 10 games at Iowa St, but that was in the Big12 and he has a NYD Bowl Win under his belt, and it looks like his recruiting will be better in shit-ass Ames, Iowa than Deboer will in “The Greatest Setting”.

I sincerely hope this helps.

How many people on this board have been to Ames?

It’s a very difficult job

Probably as many that actually remember their Pullman trip(s).

Ames is right there with Manhattan, KS. as Power 5 outposts. Still not as isolated as Pullman of course.