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The odds are not good in November

Bendintheriver
Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,015 Standard Supporter
If the Supreme Court rumor is true, they just killed chances to take over congress in November.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,941 Founders Club


    It will be settled by the states just like was happening in 1973

    The proposed reasoning seems sound. Abortion isn't going anywhere

    Of course the GOP sucks at messaging and this will be the lifeline the left media complex has been waiting for.

  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,333 Founders Club
    If you're talking about the supposed abortion reversal, I don't think it'll matter much. Blue states will hem and haw and pass their own laws. The fuckery that is the Biden admin will remain, ensuring the inevitability of November's red wave.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,015 Standard Supporter
    Sources said:

    If you're talking about the supposed abortion reversal, I don't think it'll matter much. Blue states will hem and haw and pass their own laws. The fuckery that is the Biden admin will remain, ensuring the inevitability of November's red wave.

    There is no more polarizing issue in this country than abortion rights. Not free speech, land ownership, nothing that motivates like abortion.

    Unleash the hounds
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Bob_C said:

    I don’t really have a dog in this fight. But it’s the economy stupid.

    Agree. People that care about this were already going to vote dem. The rest of the normal people are pissed about the economy which is slapping them in the face every day.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,015 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    I don’t really have a dog in this fight. But it’s the economy stupid.

    I'm not stupid but you are short sighted.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Bob_C said:

    I don’t really have a dog in this fight. But it’s the economy stupid.

    I'm not stupid but you are short sighted.
    Disagree.
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,333 Founders Club

    Sources said:

    If you're talking about the supposed abortion reversal, I don't think it'll matter much. Blue states will hem and haw and pass their own laws. The fuckery that is the Biden admin will remain, ensuring the inevitability of November's red wave.

    There is no more polarizing issue in this country than abortion rights. Not free speech, land ownership, nothing that motivates like abortion.

    Unleash the hounds
    I think this could have been the case previously, but circumstances are different now.

    The economy is melting, housing prices are exclusionary, and inflation is putting a strain on middle class incomes. People always want to bitch about something. When the economy is good, people will complain about things that don't concern them, e.g., whether their neighbor can abort the mistake from the bowling alley parking lot. When you're worried about feeding your family, whether teaches are exposing your children to transgender info, and our population grew by 5%+ due to a sieve border, people aren't going to vote for the status quo. Those that need to rationalize voting red will do so in view of the fact that people will be able to travel to California or New York to have it done legally.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,683 Founders Club
    C

    Sources said:

    If you're talking about the supposed abortion reversal, I don't think it'll matter much. Blue states will hem and haw and pass their own laws. The fuckery that is the Biden admin will remain, ensuring the inevitability of November's red wave.

    There is no more polarizing issue in this country than abortion rights. Not free speech, land ownership, nothing that motivates like abortion.

    Unleash the hounds
    I smell an actual insurrection.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,792 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    C

    Sources said:

    If you're talking about the supposed abortion reversal, I don't think it'll matter much. Blue states will hem and haw and pass their own laws. The fuckery that is the Biden admin will remain, ensuring the inevitability of November's red wave.

    There is no more polarizing issue in this country than abortion rights. Not free speech, land ownership, nothing that motivates like abortion.

    Unleash the hounds
    I smell an actual insurrection.
    Not polarizing for those being killed.

    Not our biggest issue.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Sources said:

    If you're talking about the supposed abortion reversal, I don't think it'll matter much. Blue states will hem and haw and pass their own laws. The fuckery that is the Biden admin will remain, ensuring the inevitability of November's red wave.

    There is no more polarizing issue in this country than abortion rights. Not free speech, land ownership, nothing that motivates like abortion.

    Unleash the hounds
    It changes nothing and won’t change anything in most places. Of course the left wing media will push the “abortion is now illegal” angle.


    The economy >> everything else.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    edited May 2022
    Sources said:

    If you're talking about the supposed abortion reversal, I don't think it'll matter much. Blue states will hem and haw and pass their own laws. The fuckery that is the Biden admin will remain, ensuring the inevitability of November's red wave.

    I agree.

    First, this doesn’t ban abortions, it simply reaffirms that abortion is not a constitutional right. This kicks the issue back to the states where state legislators can enact laws that represent the will of the people in each state individually. Prior to Roe abortion was legal, generally with some restrictions, in not quite half the states. I suspect it will remain legal in all or nearly all with restrictions that may range from the heartbeat rule to the estimated time of fetal viability outside he womb. The west coast may even attempt to go so far as to allow partial birth abortions, because that’s how they roll.

    Second, people’s attitudes towards abortion have changed over time. It’s still a hot button issue, but the size of the militant crowd is proportionally smaller now.

    Anyway, the driving force in the midterms will not be this. The democrats have severely fucked things up on every front. Folks are itching for change.
  • Prestonluv
    Prestonluv Member Posts: 275
    I wouldn’t tell a lady not to get an abortion

    I wouldn’t associate with most who would choose to get one who weren’t young or at risk.

    Shouldn’t even be an issue. Let them have abortions. They don’t deserve kids in most cases and we are over populated anyhow n
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,941 Founders Club
    Jenny responds



    Looks like the left is going to overplay their hand early and often

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    There's just no reason to go after the abortions. It's not gaining voters. Just stop it
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club

    There's just no reason to go after the abortions. It's not gaining voters. Just stop it



  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited May 2022
    Think it just means more want-to-be aborted babies will be voting with the dead at 3am to keep the election under control…
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,968 Standard Supporter

    Jenny responds



    Looks like the left is going to overplay their hand early and often

    Conservative my arse
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,968 Standard Supporter
    If this was leaked in October it would have an issue, leaking it now and in June it comes out will have us back to focusing on O'Bidens failures by then.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    Goduckies said:

    Jenny responds



    Looks like the left is going to overplay their hand early and often

    Conservative my arse
    Sane my arse…
  • booker14
    booker14 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 185 Swaye's Wigwam
    A point to consider, dems have assumed they'd get the Hispanic vote and are worried about the recent loss in the polls. But generally Hispanics are pretty conservative on this issue and are usually not pro-abortion. Libs aren't going to gain any ground in this demographic by going crazy here.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Goduckies said:

    If this was leaked in October it would have an issue, leaking it now and in June it comes out will have us back to focusing on O'Bidens failures by then.

    Disagree. This has rallied all of the deepest and darkest a month early. And when it becomes official in June. The explosion will be stronger, deeper and wider than it would have been with no leak.
  • georgiaduck
    georgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,608 Swaye's Wigwam
    If the news is true, then I would agree November is back up for grabs- sadly. But as I understand, all this would do is take the law back to the State level which is where I believe it should have been all along.

    Dems can't be surprised by this- for the last few years we've seen states like New York and Virginia bring laws to the books that would allow abortion to the moment of birth. When your argument goes from Safe. legal, rare to "whenever I want" you're going to lose folks.

    Right now as I see it the platform for the left is:

    Free (someone else pays for it) Healthcare
    $15/hr minimum regardless of skill set
    Shift loan burden to working class
    Men can get pregnant
    Men shouldn't control women's bodies

    Not exactly the party of maturity and good decisions.


  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,968 Standard Supporter
    Kaepsknee said:

    Goduckies said:

    If this was leaked in October it would have an issue, leaking it now and in June it comes out will have us back to focusing on O'Bidens failures by then.

    Disagree. This has rallied all of the deepest and darkest a month early. And when it becomes official in June. The explosion will be stronger, deeper and wider than it would have been with no leak.
    True it will be nuts then, a good 6 months before the election, plenty of time for Joe to find his rope.