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$70k minimum wage.

2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
Sounds like gravity is failing just like Rush predicted.

Then the inevitable backlash came. Price has been pilloried on Fox News and trashed by the multimillionaire Limbaugh ("I hope this company is a case study in MBA programs on how socialism does not work, because it's gonna fail"). A Times story in July was so laden with quotes from disgruntled customers and staff that Price's worried friends called to say he always has a place to stay if things don't work out. Others accused Price of orchestrating a clever publicity stunt. ("If it was," he replies, "I'm a genius.")

Six months after Price's announcement, Gravity has defied doubters. Revenue is growing at double the previous rate. Profits have also doubled. Gravity did lose a few customers: Some objected to what seemed like a political statement that put pressure on them to raise their own wages; others feared price hikes or service cutbacks. But media reports suggesting that panicked customers were fleeing have proved false. In fact, Gravity's customer retention rate rose from 91 to 95 percent in the second quarter.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/10/23/remember_dan_price_of_gravity_payments_who_gave_his_employees_a_70_000_minimum.html

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Are you really that faggoty purple? Never mind I know that answer.

    Funny think is, you can see a couple quotes in your article and the full story in the article I linked.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    This is working because no other firm is doing it. When the competitors copy this all profits will drop and people will be laid off
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827
    It's the free market at it's best. He found a market and exploited it. His announcement got him assloads of FREE PUB, and more than enough people (especially in the northwest) want to help prove this model works to increase his market share.

    Of course it can't work in macro when there's competition for all those socialist nirvana dollars, but in micro at one firm, it's genius.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dnc said:

    It's the free market at it's best. He found a market and exploited it. His announcement got him assloads of FREE PUB, and more than enough people (especially in the northwest) want to help prove this model works to increase his market share.

    Of course it can't work in macro when there's competition for all those socialist nirvana dollars, but in micro at one firm, it's genius.

    Reality is I laugh and post this shit cause most the people on this board think this is a conservative versus liberal issue. When really this is just what one person wanted to do to grow his business.

    I've seen it myself, in a different way. The article discusses how he was penny pinching after the recession cause he had to and he saw productivity decrease too. Then he gave people 20% raises and was amazed how he was actually more profitable "giving money away to his employees".

    My scenario, the first place I worked out of college. I was getting 15-20% raises a year along with a few others. The average raises were 10%. They kicked out the shitty performers. We grew from $4 million in revenue to $12 million and the partners went from making $250k a year to $750k a year. So the more they paid us, the more they made.

    But you are right, this doesn't work in most scenarios (and his free pub is generating a lot of the growth). Big businesses like Microsoft are too big. I don't think it would work in a manufacturing setting, so a company like Boeing is out. But in smaller companies where humans " are the machines " generating productivity, it can and does work.
  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,223 Swaye's Wigwam
    I only want him to succeed to prove you guys wrong
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,901
    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    It's the free market at it's best. He found a market and exploited it. His announcement got him assloads of FREE PUB, and more than enough people (especially in the northwest) want to help prove this model works to increase his market share.

    Of course it can't work in macro when there's competition for all those socialist nirvana dollars, but in micro at one firm, it's genius.

    Reality is I laugh and post this shit cause most the people on this board think this is a conservative versus liberal issue. When really this is just what one person wanted to do to grow his business.

    I've seen it myself, in a different way. The article discusses how he was penny pinching after the recession cause he had to and he saw productivity decrease too. Then he gave people 20% raises and was amazed how he was actually more profitable "giving money away to his employees".

    My scenario, the first place I worked out of college. I was getting 15-20% raises a year along with a few others. The average raises were 10%. They kicked out the shitty performers. We grew from $4 million in revenue to $12 million and the partners went from making $250k a year to $750k a year. So the more they paid us, the more they made.

    But you are right, this doesn't work in most scenarios (and his free pub is generating a lot of the growth). Big businesses like Microsoft are too big. I don't think it would work in a manufacturing setting, so a company like Boeing is out. But in smaller companies where humans " are the machines " generating productivity, it can and does work.
    It won't work in 99.81% of scenarios.


    But then since you were a key cog in the growth of a successful company, I'm preaching to the choir there.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    I could guess the average pay at Microsoft is much higher tha 70k.

    Contractors make 80k for sitting on two thumbs.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    jecornel said:

    I could guess the average pay at Microsoft is much higher tha 70k.

    Contractors make 80k for sitting on two thumbs.

    From what I understand, starting pay at Microsoft right out of college is over $100k right now.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Would it surprise you to learn you're wrong, again?
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    2001400ex said:

    Sounds like gravity is failing just like Rush predicted.

    Then the inevitable backlash came. Price has been pilloried on Fox News and trashed by the multimillionaire Limbaugh ("I hope this company is a case study in MBA programs on how socialism does not work, because it's gonna fail"). A Times story in July was so laden with quotes from disgruntled customers and staff that Price's worried friends called to say he always has a place to stay if things don't work out. Others accused Price of orchestrating a clever publicity stunt. ("If it was," he replies, "I'm a genius.")

    Six months after Price's announcement, Gravity has defied doubters. Revenue is growing at double the previous rate. Profits have also doubled. Gravity did lose a few customers: Some objected to what seemed like a political statement that put pressure on them to raise their own wages; others feared price hikes or service cutbacks. But media reports suggesting that panicked customers were fleeing have proved false. In fact, Gravity's customer retention rate rose from 91 to 95 percent in the second quarter.


    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/10/23/remember_dan_price_of_gravity_payments_who_gave_his_employees_a_70_000_minimum.html

    Is there anything HondoFS believes that doesn't go to shite?

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    2001400ex said:

    Sounds like gravity is failing just like Rush predicted.

    Then the inevitable backlash came. Price has been pilloried on Fox News and trashed by the multimillionaire Limbaugh ("I hope this company is a case study in MBA programs on how socialism does not work, because it's gonna fail"). A Times story in July was so laden with quotes from disgruntled customers and staff that Price's worried friends called to say he always has a place to stay if things don't work out. Others accused Price of orchestrating a clever publicity stunt. ("If it was," he replies, "I'm a genius.")

    Six months after Price's announcement, Gravity has defied doubters. Revenue is growing at double the previous rate. Profits have also doubled. Gravity did lose a few customers: Some objected to what seemed like a political statement that put pressure on them to raise their own wages; others feared price hikes or service cutbacks. But media reports suggesting that panicked customers were fleeing have proved false. In fact, Gravity's customer retention rate rose from 91 to 95 percent in the second quarter.


    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/10/23/remember_dan_price_of_gravity_payments_who_gave_his_employees_a_70_000_minimum.html

    Is there anything HondoFS believes that doesn't go to shite?

    It always seems to end that way when the love the FREE PUB. Can it really go any other way. They guy is an extreme narcissist. Maybe a sociopath. N


    By the way, I paid people who worked for me well over 100k. Felt no need to call KOMO about it.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,765 Standard Supporter
    For $70K, you'd think he'd get a handie here or there without having to roofie the giver.

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    For $70K, you'd think he'd get a handie here or there without having to roofie the giver.

    I have been told this is correct.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,765 Standard Supporter

    For $70K, you'd think he'd get a handie here or there without having to roofie the giver.

    I have been told this is correct.
    God I miss the 80's.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    Whatever happened to Hondo?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited April 2022
    trublue said:

    Whatever happened to Hondo?

    Ban hammer
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