The Globalists needed Trump out of power; now they need Putin out of power

Putin is in Ukraine taking out the deep states control over it and all the Sham, money laundering etc etc etc. That's why Hunter was there and all the other kids of the "elite" left. Mittens is on the left. Lefty slush fund super site. You don't think all that foreign aid dims pump out doesn't have kick backs?

PurpleThrobber said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero

1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.

There certainly are NAZI's. No doubt. Everything else is up in the air. How do we have all those secret bio labs? I do know Obingo started 'em

MikeDamone said:

RaceBannon said:

Let's circle back

http://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1507785729941782528?t=dVDz6dRyPz_oEOIhENYdkA&s=19

http://twitter.com/BigBlueWaveUSA/status/1507863759057870849?t=tRENm3YUtK9QkO_xaudE0A&s=19

No thanks

Biden is no Jack Kennedy.

Also, gas prices are high because Putin.

Say stupid shit enough and maybe someone will believe you.

Somebody clued Vindman in on the grift.

Cashing in. Stupid leftists pay for nonsense.

46XiJCAB said:

RaceBannon said:

Let's circle back

http://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1507785729941782528?t=dVDz6dRyPz_oEOIhENYdkA&s=19

http://twitter.com/BigBlueWaveUSA/status/1507863759057870849?t=tRENm3YUtK9QkO_xaudE0A&s=19

No thanks

How you know Joey's speech was crap. Warmonger Vindman starts flapping his gums. When American troops start dying, he will disappear. Along with the rest of the useful idiot warmongers. The real warmongers in the shadows will never be known. And they will get rich.

@LizCheneyDawg, true? And if you don't know ask @MittRomneyDawg.

What if it wasn’t a global conspiracy and instead we just didn’t like far right dictators?

DerekJohnson said:

PurpleThrobber said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero

1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.

Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.

Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.

PurpleThrobber said:

creepycoug said:

DerekJohnson said:

PurpleThrobber said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero

1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.

Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.

Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been A outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHylQRVN2Qs

Tl;dl

creepycoug said:

DerekJohnson said:

PurpleThrobber said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero

1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.

Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.

Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.

Shit holes gonna shithole

I think your part about the Ukraine being recognizable and that nothing in Somalia is recognizable is pretty spot on. Ukraine was a functioning something. Not really a democracy and corrupt as hell with a state run media. Sort of like the US and the 2020 election. The Ukraine has/had a functioning economy and was exporting natural gas and fertilizer and wheat. The Russians are definitely the bad guys and have been since the commies took over in 1917.

I don't relate to trying to fix Somalia or Zimbabwe. It's not that I don't care, but fixing it would mean killing lots of people and then installing a Colonial government. Just like barry and PIPS decided to "fix" Libya. Fixing it would mean armed occupation, forever. At this point, Putin isn't going to take anything but part of Eastern Ukraine at this point. He is definitely stalled out. He ain't taking Finland or Lithuania, let alone Poland. My biggest bitch is that the non-Russia European economies are multiple times larger than the Russian economy and yet they had no interest in really having an effective military and were happy to let the stupid Americans be their backstop. I want that deal renegotiated.

creepycoug said:

DerekJohnson said:

PurpleThrobber said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

While there are globalist ties and biolabs in U Crane, I'm not ready to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and consider Putin some hero

1. Putin's not a hero. America makes its own heroes.

2. There are corrupt globalists, money launderers and biolabs in Ukraine.

Both can be true.

Look at the extreme lockstep that certain nations and corporations quickly fell into to destroy Russia and push for regime change. Why Ukraine but not someplace like Yemen where there's a genocide underway? Our government and society couldn't care less about the current state of countries like Yemen or Libya.

Breaking from a long hiatus here, and I'm sure this won't be popular, but a possible theory for the difference: Ukraine strikes the average person here differently than more on-goings of shit in shitty places like the ME or Africa. I'm not saying "racism!" ... exactly anyway. My theory (generalizing from a high altitude of course):

First level of "I give a shit" is anything in our hemisphere. Obviously.

Second level of "I give a shit" is anything in Western Europe.

Third level of "I give a shit" is Eastern Europe ... maybe. Less obvious and YMMV based on where your people are from, where you've traveled, etc.

First level of "I don't or barely give a shit" are places that are always in some state of chaos or otherwise involves a culture or constant state of affairs that we can't get fit into our western heads. Brutality and misery are the norm. Cultural mores that are Martian to us. Like, say, if there were some region where two sects of some religion were going at it to the death as if it were 1,000 years ago, and thereby making the region as hospitable as the surface of Venus. Can't fit it in my head. Intellectually, I know I shouldn't make a distinction; but I think I do - involuntarily - make a distinction nonetheless.

Summary version: Ukraine feels more recognizable to me (though I've never been - only to Poland in that part of the world) so I can relate more. Things happening in constantly miserable parts of the world feel much more alien, so it processes differently. Not a nice thing to admit, but I also know I'm not alone. I don't think I think what I think because of the media.

Add to that, at least for me, that as a child of the 70s and 80s, I was raised to fear the Russians. African war lords, not so much. But then again, even had I been paying attention, I doubt I'd have been outraged over Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Nor would I likely be today. Not comparatively anyway.

That's my take.