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GOP's best option for 2024

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
There's nothing earth shattering in this video. But it does show how the guy can talk for 20 minutes plus, without notes, on policy issues and in complete sentences. We already know he can do the political red meat with the best of them. The GOP needs to seriously think about moving on from Trump, he served his purpose but if you want to win, and win big in Nov. 2024 this is the guy to do it. He is smart, he can think on his feet and he has an ability to communicate that we don't have with other candidates that doesn't come off as forced and performative. And yes, I'm talking about you Ted Cruz.

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Trump has too much baggage to win. He reimagined the political playbook, though, so thanks to him for that. Now move on to the next generation. I would vote for DeSantis over Trump.

    Thank Trump for his service but it's time to move on.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    TDS and TIS have the same puzzlement to me: the guy lost, long past tim to get over it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,979 Founders Club
    Trump isn't going anywhere nor should he. He has a base that any politician would kill for and Hillary has

    That doesn't mean he has to be the nominee. It means DeSantis has to embrace what's good and beat him

    Trump is out there now doing the groundwork and supporting local politicians.

    Today Trump has the loudest voice on the issues that matter. When DeSantis runs he will

    Right now Ron needs to get reelected. Fine line. Disney and the rest were nice enough to bring a national issue to Florida. Along with covid.

    Awfully warm for 2024. The democrats have plenty up their sleeve still
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Trump isn't going anywhere nor should he. He has a base that any politician would kill for and Hillary has

    That doesn't mean he has to be the nominee. It means DeSantis has to embrace what's good and beat him

    Trump is out there now doing the groundwork and supporting local politicians.

    Today Trump has the loudest voice on the issues that matter. When DeSantis runs he will

    Right now Ron needs to get reelected. Fine line. Disney and the rest were nice enough to bring a national issue to Florida. Along with covid.

    Awfully warm for 2024. The democrats have plenty up their sleeve still

    Rats are going to be playing the shit hand of $6.00 gas, double digit inflation, and exploding crime rates. And oh yeah, you're a bigot unless you support allowing teachers to talk about sex with your 5 year old.

    Good luck with that Rats.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,979 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    There's nothing earth shattering in this video. But it does show how the guy can talk for 20 minutes plus, without notes, on policy issues and in complete sentences. We already know he can do the political red meat with the best of them. The GOP needs to seriously think about moving on from Trump, he served his purpose but if you want to win, and win big in Nov. 2024 this is the guy to do it. He is smart, he can think on his feet and he has an ability to communicate that we don't have with other candidates that doesn't come off as forced and performative. And yes, I'm talking about you Ted Cruz.

    100% only way Biden wins is if Trump runs again and does something stupid with is about 50% chance.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,793 Standard Supporter

    Trump has too much baggage to win. He reimagined the political playbook, though, so thanks to him for that. Now move on to the next generation. I would vote for DeSantis over Trump.

    Trump will beat DeSantis not a contest. I want DeSantis for VP. He'll get the next 8 year's. Longer the run the better for our nation after we kick out the commies they've done yuge damage.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,790 Swaye's Wigwam
    Best Option for GOP in 2024 is Biden to run. Trump needs to chinfluence the voters to get them to come out to vote, DeSantis should be able to get the nomination.

    In the mean tim - get control of the house and senate in 2022 and don't fuck it up in 2023 and 2024 - the press will be vicious. So odds are the Dems will again get the presidency, I don't think the GOP can go two years without fucking it up.

    There is a Dem out there somewhere that the soccer moms will fall for when the GOP screws up in 23/24 - dread the thought - Newsome? Can't really think of another Dem that could bump Biden out of the picture. Hope would be Harris does - guaranteed GOP victory racism and all.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    I'm calling it now it's gonna be DeSantis v. Newsome. DIMS won't let Joey run again, they'll 25th his ass to stop that. Kammy will not win the nomination because she a F'n idiot. Trump can play Kingmaker and get the base out for all of the candidates he's supporting. He can take the heat for DeSantis until he says he's not running. He tells his base the country needs DeSantis and it's over. Cook it!
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,690 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm calling it now it's gonna be DeSantis v. Newsome. DIMS won't let Joey run again, they'll 25th his ass to stop that. Kammy will not win the nomination because she a F'n idiot. Trump can play Kingmaker and get the base out for all of the candidates he's supporting. He can take the heat for DeSantis until he says he's not running. He tells his base the country needs DeSantis and it's over. Cook it!

    I agree it’s going to be Gavin.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,979 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm calling it now it's gonna be DeSantis v. Newsome. DIMS won't let Joey run again, they'll 25th his ass to stop that. Kammy will not win the nomination because she a F'n idiot. Trump can play Kingmaker and get the base out for all of the candidates he's supporting. He can take the heat for DeSantis until he says he's not running. He tells his base the country needs DeSantis and it's over. Cook it!

    I agree it’s going to be Gavin.
    Works perfect for the fake covid narrative. Newsom the hero and Deathsantis

    Housewives don't do math or science
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited March 2022
    Let me add. VP will be a woman. Color will not be the deciding factor. Just smart, articulate and relatable to suburban housewives around issues that actually matter.

    No feel good virtue signaling crap. BLM.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,979 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm calling it now it's gonna be DeSantis v. Newsome. DIMS won't let Joey run again, they'll 25th his ass to stop that. Kammy will not win the nomination because she a F'n idiot. Trump can play Kingmaker and get the base out for all of the candidates he's supporting. He can take the heat for DeSantis until he says he's not running. He tells his base the country needs DeSantis and it's over. Cook it!

    Let's hope
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,131 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    I'm also in the camp that wants to see the party move on from Trump to a more palatable Trump in DeathSantis - all the policies without as many distractions. That said, I do agree with Race that DS needs to beat him or get the torch passed by him - no freebies. If you can't get by Trump you don't deserve the belt and you are not ready for how the DNC controlled Pravda media is going to absolutely savage you.

    Also agree that the media is already gearing up for how DS makes Trump look like Mother Teresa. DeathSantis, because he isn't uniparty and actually has the balls to call out trannies beating girls, will be basically painted as Satan himself. Should be interesting.

    If DS can survive the crucible, can you imagine him debating Biden or Headboard? DS is legit on top of policy and has a great mind. Hell of a debater as well. He will absolutely mop the floor with them. /popcorn

    My problem with this is "palatable" and "baggage" are dog whistles for "the left's tactics worked".

    It's the same apologist attitude we hate the establishment gop for but here we are parroting it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,979 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    I'm also in the camp that wants to see the party move on from Trump to a more palatable Trump in DeathSantis - all the policies without as many distractions. That said, I do agree with Race that DS needs to beat him or get the torch passed by him - no freebies. If you can't get by Trump you don't deserve the belt and you are not ready for how the DNC controlled Pravda media is going to absolutely savage you.

    Also agree that the media is already gearing up for how DS makes Trump look like Mother Teresa. DeathSantis, because he isn't uniparty and actually has the balls to call out trannies beating girls, will be basically painted as Satan himself. Should be interesting.

    If DS can survive the crucible, can you imagine him debating Biden or Headboard? DS is legit on top of policy and has a great mind. Hell of a debater as well. He will absolutely mop the floor with them. /popcorn

    My problem with this is "palatable" and "baggage" are dog whistles for "the left's tactics worked".

    It's the same apologist attitude we hate the establishment gop for but here we are parroting it.
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    I'm also in the camp that wants to see the party move on from Trump to a more palatable Trump in DeathSantis - all the policies without as many distractions. That said, I do agree with Race that DS needs to beat him or get the torch passed by him - no freebies. If you can't get by Trump you don't deserve the belt and you are not ready for how the DNC controlled Pravda media is going to absolutely savage you.

    Also agree that the media is already gearing up for how DS makes Trump look like Mother Teresa. DeathSantis, because he isn't uniparty and actually has the balls to call out trannies beating girls, will be basically painted as Satan himself. Should be interesting.

    If DS can survive the crucible, can you imagine him debating Biden or Headboard? DS is legit on top of policy and has a great mind. Hell of a debater as well. He will absolutely mop the floor with them. /popcorn

    My problem with this is "palatable" and "baggage" are dog whistles for "the left's tactics worked".

    It's the same apologist attitude we hate the establishment gop for but here we are parroting it.
    Hey DS fights for issues that matter and pisses them all off. Palatable just means not ripping people all day on Twitter in some juvenile way. Trump but with the rough edges removed is still good for the country.
    The competitor in me wants the streets to flow with the blood of my enemies. Bot scores a point

    But I rip people online all day and I realize how juvenile I am. Point Swaye

    Legit pleased with either one so welcome President Newsom
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited March 2022
    I'd like for Trump to learn the fine art of using a scalpel but he insists on going with the butcher knife. Think Reagan.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    46XiJCAB said:

    I'd like for Trump to learn the fine art of using a scalpel but he insists on going with the butcher knife.

    At this point there's no teaching the old dog Trump any new tricks. He is what he is. Some of that is good and some is awful.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,793 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'd like for Trump to learn the fine art of using a scalpel but he insists on going with the butcher knife.

    At this point there's no teaching the old dog Trump any new tricks. He is what he is. Some of that is good and some is awful.
    the economy sure was nice! Same with rolling back the commie BS. I'll take T and then Desantis. Years of work to undo these marxist shitbags treachery.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited March 2022

    I like to say that you never bet against human nature. I say that.

    Trump can't let it go, It's not part of his nature. Maybe he should let it go but he won't.

    One year in and he's 6 points up on Biden despite a fawning press and a war for the midterms. In two or three more years of the mush head who knows.

    From the day he was elected the Obama cabal attempted a coup with illegal surveillance

    Then a fake dossier and a sham Mueller investigation

    Then a sham impeachment to protect the Biden crime family

    Then covid and the looting and burning of America


    None of the above is a question anymore. Leading to a 50/50 chance the election was stolen by the same actors

    Now the truth about Joe and Hunter is out there.


    Whoever is the next president can't just say oh well. That's what THEY want - a country of compliant Mello people. Trump is obsessed and bitter and that may be his doom. But that doesn't mean we just move on

    Fuck the GOP, the American people need to demand accountability.

    #NeverForget

    Yes, yes, the did all of that, but they would never rig an election. That's crazy talk. Next thing you'll be telling me that they helped to cover up the origins of Covid.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,979 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    I'd like for Trump to learn the fine art of using a scalpel but he insists on going with the butcher knife. Think Reagan.

    If he'd learned that he would have won in 2020
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,979 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2022

    I like to say that you never bet against human nature. I say that.

    Trump can't let it go, It's not part of his nature. Maybe he should let it go but he won't.

    One year in and he's 6 points up on Biden despite a fawning press and a war for the midterms. In two or three more years of the mush head who knows.

    From the day he was elected the Obama cabal attempted a coup with illegal surveillance

    Then a fake dossier and a sham Mueller investigation

    Then a sham impeachment to protect the Biden crime family

    Then covid and the looting and burning of America

    None of the above is a question anymore. Leading to a 50/50 chance the election was stolen by the same actors

    Now the truth about Joe and Hunter is out there.


    Whoever is the next president can't just say oh well. That's what THEY want - a country of compliant Mello people. Trump is obsessed and bitter and that may be his doom. But that doesn't mean we just move on

    Fuck the GOP, the American people need to demand accountability.

    #NeverForget

    We shouldn't move on, but Trump going down every rabit hole no matter how small and giving the media soundbites was his downfall.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,267 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2022
    Sledog said:

    Trump has too much baggage to win. He reimagined the political playbook, though, so thanks to him for that. Now move on to the next generation. I would vote for DeSantis over Trump.

    Trump will beat DeSantis not a contest. I want DeSantis for VP. He'll get the next 8 year's. Longer the run the better for our nation after we kick out the commies they've done yuge damage.
    Trump can't serve for 8 more years, so who is vaulting DeSantis after year 4 in that scenario? DeSantis needs to win in 2024 for the R's to have a future.

    Edit: maybe I'm reading this wrong and you are saying Trump goes to 2028, and the DeSantis until 2036.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,793 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Trump has too much baggage to win. He reimagined the political playbook, though, so thanks to him for that. Now move on to the next generation. I would vote for DeSantis over Trump.

    Trump will beat DeSantis not a contest. I want DeSantis for VP. He'll get the next 8 year's. Longer the run the better for our nation after we kick out the commies they've done yuge damage.
    Trump can't serve for 8 more years, so who is vaulting DeSantis after year 4 in that scenario? DeSantis needs to win in 2024 for the R's to have a future.
    Trump can do 4. Desantis VP then 8 for Desantis. 12 years right there. Desantis can't beat trump in a primary. Wasted money.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,979 Standard Supporter
    My issue with DeSantis as VP is Trump will day the same stupid shit for 4 years and gge media will bash him 247 for it causing a gop loss we can't afford to give back anything to the democrats at this point
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,793 Standard Supporter
    Goduckies said:

    My issue with DeSantis as VP is Trump will day the same stupid shit for 4 years and gge media will bash him 247 for it causing a gop loss we can't afford to give back anything to the democrats at this point

    I guess Trump will pick someone else than and they can be prez. DeSantis loses to trump in every poll.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,267 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Goduckies said:

    My issue with DeSantis as VP is Trump will day the same stupid shit for 4 years and gge media will bash him 247 for it causing a gop loss we can't afford to give back anything to the democrats at this point

    I guess Trump will pick someone else than and they can be prez. DeSantis loses to trump in every poll.
    Give it a couple years. Trump may well keel over from a cheeseburger induced heart attack by then.