Have we always been this corrupt of a country and I've just been naive most of my life?

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The main change is who holds the reins of power
As a youngster the real liberals and the leftists said the FBI under Hoover and the CIA under everyone was corrupt. Conservatives defended them
The left took over the tools of power and now have corrupted them completely
And if you point that out you are attacking our norms and values as a country. Conservatives are still uncomfortable facing this reality. So we have this weird authoritarian establishment uni party against the people
You see it from the schoolhouse to the white house. The true believers are everywhere -
When confronted with Nixon's corruption many of his GOP supporters abandoned him. When confronted with some of the very same type of corruption; using the IRS to harass your political opponents, not a single Rat turned on Obama. Have you heard a single Rat call Biden out for his "Russian disinformation" lies? And how do you think falsely smearing Russia for these past 6 years has impacted our relationship with them?RaceBannon said:The main change is who holds the reins of power
As a youngster the real liberals and the leftists said the FBI under Hoover and the CIA under everyone was corrupt. Conservatives defended them
The left took over the tools of power and now have corrupted them completely
And if you point that out you are attacking our norms and values as a country. Conservatives are still uncomfortable facing this reality. So we have this weird authoritarian establishment uni party against the people
You see it from the schoolhouse to the white house. The true believers are everywhere -
Looking back amazes me what a big deal watergate was to the nation. Now that type of shit and worse happens regularly and it never gets any traction….depending on who the subject is of course.
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Watergate was Nixon wanting to find out what LBJ had on him via wiretaps. Very under reported
Of course when Obama "wire tapped" Trump NOGAF in our media
Bob makes a good point. No one circles the wagons like the left.
Meanwhile conservatives want to lose the right way and do the right thing and call out their own to show moral fiber
Moral fiber is great but you get Husky football playing Oregon
If Nixon had (D) and wasn't anti communist no one would know what Watergate was
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Also the democrats are the first to accuse the GOP of party before countrySFGbob said:
When confronted with Nixon's corruption many of his GOP supporters abandoned him. When confronted with some of the very same type of corruption; using the IRS to harass your political opponents, not a single Rat turned on Obama. Have you heard a single Rat call Biden out for his "Russian disinformation" lies? And how do you think falsely smearing Russia for these past 6 years has impacted our relationship with them?RaceBannon said:The main change is who holds the reins of power
As a youngster the real liberals and the leftists said the FBI under Hoover and the CIA under everyone was corrupt. Conservatives defended them
The left took over the tools of power and now have corrupted them completely
And if you point that out you are attacking our norms and values as a country. Conservatives are still uncomfortable facing this reality. So we have this weird authoritarian establishment uni party against the people
You see it from the schoolhouse to the white house. The true believers are everywhere
Laughable
The Trump years did great damage to our precious institutions and standing and it wasn't Trump that did it
Although he was dressed provocatively -
RaceBannon said:
Also the democrats are the first to accuse the GOP of party before countrySFGbob said:
When confronted with Nixon's corruption many of his GOP supporters abandoned him. When confronted with some of the very same type of corruption; using the IRS to harass your political opponents, not a single Rat turned on Obama. Have you heard a single Rat call Biden out for his "Russian disinformation" lies? And how do you think falsely smearing Russia for these past 6 years has impacted our relationship with them?RaceBannon said:The main change is who holds the reins of power
As a youngster the real liberals and the leftists said the FBI under Hoover and the CIA under everyone was corrupt. Conservatives defended them
The left took over the tools of power and now have corrupted them completely
And if you point that out you are attacking our norms and values as a country. Conservatives are still uncomfortable facing this reality. So we have this weird authoritarian establishment uni party against the people
You see it from the schoolhouse to the white house. The true believers are everywhere
Laughable
The Trump years did great damage to our precious institutions and standing and it wasn't Trump that did it
Although he was dressed provocatively -
It's also a hard road to get off of
Guys like Chuck Todd are now eviscerated by the left if they criticize Biden at all
It's all fun and games hating Trump but Stephen Miller is right. They fucked themselves -
The old dog ate my homework play.
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Uhhh, yeah.SFGbob said:Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?
Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.
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Need to update the talking points Dazzler. The new hero Zelensky says that Trump never pressured him to do anything and the only thing he resents out of that entire affair is that your team leaked the phone call.HHusky said:
Uhhh, yeah.SFGbob said:Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?
Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.
You gals are pathetic.
Once again you're OUTRAGED over military aid that Ukraine received while you continue to suck Obama and Biden's cocks while they refused to provide Ukraine with any lethal miltary aid. Btw, what's it like always swallowing like a bitch Dazzler? You were all in on the Hunter Biden laptop being "Russian disinformation." At what point do you start to question your sources of information Dazzler, the same sources that told you "Daddy" withheld military aid?
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Right, but they got the aid so the withholding doesn’t matter anymore.HHusky said:
Uhhh, yeah.SFGbob said:Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?
Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.
You gals are pathetic.
Alternatively, one can just say something never happened and then that means it never happened. -
They got the aid. The aid was delayed. It wasn't withheld. And given what we now know about the corruption in Ukraine involving Biden and his son maybe withholding the aid was a good idea. Btw, have you said a fucking word about the fact that the Biden Admin was "withholding" lethal aid to Ukraine prior to the Russian invasion? Why are we only now sending Ukraine the weapons they need? Why was Biden "withholding" it from them?MelloDawg said:
Right, but they got the aid so the withholding doesn’t matter anymore.HHusky said:
Uhhh, yeah.SFGbob said:Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?
Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.
You gals are pathetic.
Alternatively, one can just say something never happened and then that means it never happened.
Now go run and hide you fucking little bitch. -
The GOP does like winning and losing the right way. I read an interview with Darrell Issa recently where he was discussing all of the subpoenas the GOP House is sending out. They're doing so in anticipation of taking back the House. Their goal is to be ready to call people in because no one is responding to their subpoenas.RaceBannon said:Watergate was Nixon wanting to find out what LBJ had on him via wiretaps. Very under reported
Of course when Obama "wire tapped" Trump NOGAF in our media
Bob makes a good point. No one circles the wagons like the left.
Meanwhile conservatives want to lose the right way and do the right thing and call out their own to show moral fiber
Moral fiber is great but you get Husky football playing Oregon
If Nixon had (D) and wasn't anti communist no one would know what Watergate was
But something he said made was very deflating. The RATS do not play fair where committees are concerned and he acknowledged that. J6th is a prime example. He said Pelosi has been terrible lately and has no regards for the rules. But then he said that the GOP will not do the things that the RATS do because they believe in doing things the RIGHT way. They will give the Left a voice in committees because the minority is owed that. Losers, lose. -
No he didn’t you dumb motherfucker.HHusky said:
Uhhh, yeah.SFGbob said:Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?
Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.
You gals are pathetic.
Zilensky himself said as much
Work the Biden shaft, Dazzler. Your guy is as dirty as has ever been seen in US politics.
Work the shaft.
And yes or no on bio labs in Ukraine? Answer the question -
Another fucking lie from Fatso. Just keep that puke hole closed, Biden voter.HHusky said:
Uhhh, yeah.SFGbob said:Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?
Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.
You gals are pathetic. -
@RatherBeBrewing wonders why we don't listen to himHHusky said:
Uhhh, yeah.SFGbob said:Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?
Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.
You gals are pathetic.
This is why
It's an American domestic political matter paid in blood by Uranians
As long as the same lying hacks the last 5 years are peddling yet more bullshit I'll pass
Biden isn't your friend Ukraine
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The javelin missiles were sent by Trump
But still -
Sometimes Daddy's crimes got exposed. He didn't have a lot of choice.RaceBannon said:The javelin missiles were sent by Trump
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Obammy is running the show and he's as deep as deep state gets!
Criminal how they've stolen our elections. Look up what Wisconsin just put out. Widespread fraud they said. But no proof according to our commie shitbags here. -
Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?
They didn’t want to upset Putin.
Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.
But Trump.
Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk. -
I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop doing that.46XiJCAB said:Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?
They didn’t want to upset Putin.
Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.
But Trump.
Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk. -
Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.HHusky said:
I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.46XiJCAB said:Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?
They didn’t want to upset Putin.
Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.
But Trump.
Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.
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Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.PurpleThrobber said:
Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.HHusky said:
I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.46XiJCAB said:Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?
They didn’t want to upset Putin.
Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.
But Trump.
Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.
The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that. -
Biden sent HunterHHusky said:
Sometimes Daddy's crimes got exposed. He didn't have a lot of choice.RaceBannon said:The javelin missiles were sent by Trump
But still
Which is more helpful?
Do you enjoy looking like a dumbshit?
Those javelins are killing Russian tanks
Thank you president Trump -
Hindu chickHHusky said:
Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.PurpleThrobber said:
Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.HHusky said:
I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.46XiJCAB said:Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?
They didn’t want to upset Putin.
Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.
But Trump.
Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.
The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that.
Bull Conner is embarrassed -
Yes or no is the proper response.HHusky said:
Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.PurpleThrobber said:
Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.HHusky said:
I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.46XiJCAB said:Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?
They didn’t want to upset Putin.
Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.
But Trump.
Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.
The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that.
And stop babbling.
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The hard facts are that elements in the Ukraine wanted a bribed dementia patient to be president. The payments to Hunter are prima facie evidence of the bribery. Imagine the chief law enforcement agent of the US wanted some accountability of the bribery of Hunter and the quid pro quo after the investigation into Burisma and Hunter's corruption was terminated after the Biden threat. Ever heard any concern about the Burisma deal from the dazzler? Nope, any concern about the bribe is unpatriotic.SFGbob said:
They got the aid. The aid was delayed. It wasn't withheld. And given what we now know about the corruption in Ukraine involving Biden and his son maybe withholding the aid was a good idea. Btw, have you said a fucking word about the fact that the Biden Admin was "withholding" lethal aid to Ukraine prior to the Russian invasion? Why are we only now sending Ukraine the weapons they need? Why was Biden "withholding" it from them?MelloDawg said:
Right, but they got the aid so the withholding doesn’t matter anymore.HHusky said:
Uhhh, yeah.SFGbob said:Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?
Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.
You gals are pathetic.
Alternatively, one can just say something never happened and then that means it never happened.
Now go run and hide you fucking little bitch. -
Couldn't figure out whether my answer was a Yes or a No?PurpleThrobber said:
Yes or no is the proper response.HHusky said:
Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.PurpleThrobber said:
Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.HHusky said:
I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.46XiJCAB said:Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?
They didn’t want to upset Putin.
Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.
But Trump.
Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.
The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that.
And stop babbling.
That's a You problem. -
Neat trick. Dazzler and the rest of the left lies about what Tulsi actually said, claiming she had said something she never said. She comes out and restates exactly what she said from the outset leaving no doubt that the Dazzler and company were lying about her claiming Ukraine had "bio weapon labs" and then Dazzler claims she is now "walking it back."HHusky said:
Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.PurpleThrobber said:
Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.HHusky said:
I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.46XiJCAB said:Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?
They didn’t want to upset Putin.
Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.
But Trump.
Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.
The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that.
Pathological fucking liar. -
Quite honestly the main reason I want the losers in the GOP to take back Congress is so we get 24X7 Big Guy/Hunter investigations for two straight years. Goose. Gander. Game on. Fucks.WestlinnDuck said:
The hard facts are that elements in the Ukraine wanted a bribed dementia patient to be president. The payments to Hunter are prima facie evidence of the bribery. Imagine the chief law enforcement agent of the US wanted some accountability of the bribery of Hunter and the quid pro quo after the investigation into Burisma and Hunter's corruption was terminated after the Biden threat. Ever heard any concern about the Burisma deal from the dazzler? Nope, any concern about the bribe is unpatriotic.SFGbob said:
They got the aid. The aid was delayed. It wasn't withheld. And given what we now know about the corruption in Ukraine involving Biden and his son maybe withholding the aid was a good idea. Btw, have you said a fucking word about the fact that the Biden Admin was "withholding" lethal aid to Ukraine prior to the Russian invasion? Why are we only now sending Ukraine the weapons they need? Why was Biden "withholding" it from them?MelloDawg said:
Right, but they got the aid so the withholding doesn’t matter anymore.HHusky said:
Uhhh, yeah.SFGbob said:Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?
Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.
You gals are pathetic.
Alternatively, one can just say something never happened and then that means it never happened.
Now go run and hide you fucking little bitch.