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Have we always been this corrupt of a country and I've just been naive most of my life?

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
edited March 2022 in Tug Tavern
Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    The main change is who holds the reins of power

    As a youngster the real liberals and the leftists said the FBI under Hoover and the CIA under everyone was corrupt. Conservatives defended them

    The left took over the tools of power and now have corrupted them completely

    And if you point that out you are attacking our norms and values as a country. Conservatives are still uncomfortable facing this reality. So we have this weird authoritarian establishment uni party against the people

    You see it from the schoolhouse to the white house. The true believers are everywhere

    When confronted with Nixon's corruption many of his GOP supporters abandoned him. When confronted with some of the very same type of corruption; using the IRS to harass your political opponents, not a single Rat turned on Obama. Have you heard a single Rat call Biden out for his "Russian disinformation" lies? And how do you think falsely smearing Russia for these past 6 years has impacted our relationship with them?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    The main change is who holds the reins of power

    As a youngster the real liberals and the leftists said the FBI under Hoover and the CIA under everyone was corrupt. Conservatives defended them

    The left took over the tools of power and now have corrupted them completely

    And if you point that out you are attacking our norms and values as a country. Conservatives are still uncomfortable facing this reality. So we have this weird authoritarian establishment uni party against the people

    You see it from the schoolhouse to the white house. The true believers are everywhere

    When confronted with Nixon's corruption many of his GOP supporters abandoned him. When confronted with some of the very same type of corruption; using the IRS to harass your political opponents, not a single Rat turned on Obama. Have you heard a single Rat call Biden out for his "Russian disinformation" lies? And how do you think falsely smearing Russia for these past 6 years has impacted our relationship with them?
    Also the democrats are the first to accuse the GOP of party before country

    Laughable

    The Trump years did great damage to our precious institutions and standing and it wasn't Trump that did it

    Although he was dressed provocatively
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    It's also a hard road to get off of

    Guys like Chuck Todd are now eviscerated by the left if they criticize Biden at all

    It's all fun and games hating Trump but Stephen Miller is right. They fucked themselves
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
    The old dog ate my homework play.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited March 2022
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    Need to update the talking points Dazzler. The new hero Zelensky says that Trump never pressured him to do anything and the only thing he resents out of that entire affair is that your team leaked the phone call.

    Once again you're OUTRAGED over military aid that Ukraine received while you continue to suck Obama and Biden's cocks while they refused to provide Ukraine with any lethal miltary aid. Btw, what's it like always swallowing like a bitch Dazzler? You were all in on the Hunter Biden laptop being "Russian disinformation." At what point do you start to question your sources of information Dazzler, the same sources that told you "Daddy" withheld military aid?

    You must really enjoy sucking old man dick Dazzler.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,853
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    Right, but they got the aid so the withholding doesn’t matter anymore.

    Alternatively, one can just say something never happened and then that means it never happened.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Watergate was Nixon wanting to find out what LBJ had on him via wiretaps. Very under reported

    Of course when Obama "wire tapped" Trump NOGAF in our media

    Bob makes a good point. No one circles the wagons like the left.

    Meanwhile conservatives want to lose the right way and do the right thing and call out their own to show moral fiber

    Moral fiber is great but you get Husky football playing Oregon

    If Nixon had (D) and wasn't anti communist no one would know what Watergate was

    The GOP does like winning and losing the right way. I read an interview with Darrell Issa recently where he was discussing all of the subpoenas the GOP House is sending out. They're doing so in anticipation of taking back the House. Their goal is to be ready to call people in because no one is responding to their subpoenas.

    But something he said made was very deflating. The RATS do not play fair where committees are concerned and he acknowledged that. J6th is a prime example. He said Pelosi has been terrible lately and has no regards for the rules. But then he said that the GOP will not do the things that the RATS do because they believe in doing things the RIGHT way. They will give the Left a voice in committees because the minority is owed that. Losers, lose.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    Another fucking lie from Fatso. Just keep that puke hole closed, Biden voter.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    @RatherBeBrewing wonders why we don't listen to him

    This is why

    It's an American domestic political matter paid in blood by Uranians

    As long as the same lying hacks the last 5 years are peddling yet more bullshit I'll pass

    Biden isn't your friend Ukraine

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    The javelin missiles were sent by Trump

    But still
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979

    The javelin missiles were sent by Trump

    But still

    Sometimes Daddy's crimes got exposed. He didn't have a lot of choice.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    Obammy is running the show and he's as deep as deep state gets!

    Criminal how they've stolen our elections. Look up what Wisconsin just put out. Widespread fraud they said. But no proof according to our commie shitbags here.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?

    They didn’t want to upset Putin.

    Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.

    But Trump.

    Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    edited March 2022
    46XiJCAB said:

    Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?

    They didn’t want to upset Putin.

    Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.

    But Trump.

    Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.

    I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop doing that.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?

    They didn’t want to upset Putin.

    Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.

    But Trump.

    Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.

    I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.
    Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    edited March 2022

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?

    They didn’t want to upset Putin.

    Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.

    But Trump.

    Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.

    I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.
    Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.

    Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.

    The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?

    They didn’t want to upset Putin.

    Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.

    But Trump.

    Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.

    I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.
    Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.

    Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.

    The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that.
    Hindu chick


    Bull Conner is embarrassed
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?

    They didn’t want to upset Putin.

    Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.

    But Trump.

    Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.

    I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.
    Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.

    Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.

    The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that.
    Yes or no is the proper response.

    And stop babbling.




  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,658 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    MelloDawg said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    Right, but they got the aid so the withholding doesn’t matter anymore.

    Alternatively, one can just say something never happened and then that means it never happened.
    They got the aid. The aid was delayed. It wasn't withheld. And given what we now know about the corruption in Ukraine involving Biden and his son maybe withholding the aid was a good idea. Btw, have you said a fucking word about the fact that the Biden Admin was "withholding" lethal aid to Ukraine prior to the Russian invasion? Why are we only now sending Ukraine the weapons they need? Why was Biden "withholding" it from them?

    Now go run and hide you fucking little bitch.
    The hard facts are that elements in the Ukraine wanted a bribed dementia patient to be president. The payments to Hunter are prima facie evidence of the bribery. Imagine the chief law enforcement agent of the US wanted some accountability of the bribery of Hunter and the quid pro quo after the investigation into Burisma and Hunter's corruption was terminated after the Biden threat. Ever heard any concern about the Burisma deal from the dazzler? Nope, any concern about the bribe is unpatriotic.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?

    They didn’t want to upset Putin.

    Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.

    But Trump.

    Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.

    I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.
    Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.

    Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.

    The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that.
    Yes or no is the proper response.

    And stop babbling.




    Couldn't figure out whether my answer was a Yes or a No?

    That's a You problem.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited March 2022
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?

    They didn’t want to upset Putin.

    Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.

    But Trump.

    Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.

    I'm really going to have to stop praising Obama for his guts and his foreign policy chops. Of course, I'll have to start doing that before I can stop.
    Yes or No? Bio Labs in Ukraine. Answer it. Or STFU.

    Madam, I'm sure this terribly meaningful to you, but Ukraine is in Europe. I would be stunned if any European country didn't have bio labs. Ukraine may even have indoor plumbing.

    The Hindu chick is having to walk back the crazy talk. Learn from that.
    Neat trick. Dazzler and the rest of the left lies about what Tulsi actually said, claiming she had said something she never said. She comes out and restates exactly what she said from the outset leaving no doubt that the Dazzler and company were lying about her claiming Ukraine had "bio weapon labs" and then Dazzler claims she is now "walking it back."

    Pathological fucking liar.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    edited March 2022

    SFGbob said:

    MelloDawg said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    Right, but they got the aid so the withholding doesn’t matter anymore.

    Alternatively, one can just say something never happened and then that means it never happened.
    They got the aid. The aid was delayed. It wasn't withheld. And given what we now know about the corruption in Ukraine involving Biden and his son maybe withholding the aid was a good idea. Btw, have you said a fucking word about the fact that the Biden Admin was "withholding" lethal aid to Ukraine prior to the Russian invasion? Why are we only now sending Ukraine the weapons they need? Why was Biden "withholding" it from them?

    Now go run and hide you fucking little bitch.
    The hard facts are that elements in the Ukraine wanted a bribed dementia patient to be president. The payments to Hunter are prima facie evidence of the bribery. Imagine the chief law enforcement agent of the US wanted some accountability of the bribery of Hunter and the quid pro quo after the investigation into Burisma and Hunter's corruption was terminated after the Biden threat. Ever heard any concern about the Burisma deal from the dazzler? Nope, any concern about the bribe is unpatriotic.
    Quite honestly the main reason I want the losers in the GOP to take back Congress is so we get 24X7 Big Guy/Hunter investigations for two straight years. Goose. Gander. Game on. Fucks.