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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,729 Founders Club
    If only we would have had more testing and contact tracing and locked down more and Trump didn’t force people to take fish bowl cleaner and inject bleach none of this would have happened.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Take a close look at those on the beds. All olds, all of them. Do you see anyone there that looks younger than 40 y/o. Yet I bet the youngs are all wearing masks in HK.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Bob_C said:

    If only we would have had more testing and contact tracing and locked down more and Trump didn’t force people to take fish bowl cleaner and inject bleach none of this would have happened.

    Don’t forget PPE. Need more.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,729 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    If only we would have had more testing and contact tracing and locked down more and Trump didn’t force people to take fish bowl cleaner and inject bleach none of this would have happened.

    Don’t forget PPE. Need more.
    Yeah forgot about that. Super important. Need ventilation in schools to reopen too.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    It’s definitely not political

    Inslee announces total lockdown March 25, 2020





    Inlslee announces Covid restrictions are over Feb 28,2022




  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,477 Founders Club
    edited March 2022

    It’s definitely not political

    Inslee announces total lockdown March 25, 2020





    Inlslee announces Covid restrictions are over Feb 28,2022




    Thanks for the MISINFORMATION, ******.


  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    pawz said:

    It’s definitely not political

    Inslee announces total lockdown March 25, 2020





    Inlslee announces Covid restrictions are over Feb 28,2022




    Thanks for the MISINFORMATION, ******.


    It’s from The NY Times so probably fake news.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    edited March 2022
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Dumb people like Herr Dazzler thought we could eradicate a respiratory virus by staying home for 2 weeks. We should try it with colds.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,998 Standard Supporter
    Kootenai has zero covid cases in the hospital, zero and we were inundated.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,998 Standard Supporter

    Doogles said:

    Dumb people like Herr Dazzler thought we could eradicate a respiratory virus by staying home for 2 weeks. We should try it with colds.
    Undoubtedly in her front yard


    JFC that sign is fucking stupid. Cringe.
    All over the bay area, zero up here.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited March 2022
    Goduckies said:

    Kootenai has zero covid cases in the hospital, zero and we were inundated.

    Huh?



  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,998 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2022
    That's what they told me a few days ago... maybe we got some since then. My info is from the nurses and docs working there. Looking at the disclaimer, could be a different hospital still has a few.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Goduckies said:

    That's what they told me a few days ago... maybe we got some since then. My info is from the nurses and docs working there. Looking at the disclaimer, could be a different hospital still has a few.

    Looks like a reporting pause



    Anyway, it’s not zero.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,998 Standard Supporter
    Yes they are transitioning to a new system. IT guys have been here all week... and i trust the nurses that are no longer wearing their masks as much over you.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited March 2022
    Goduckies said:

    Yes they are transitioning to a new system. IT guys have been here all week... and i trust the nurses that are no longer wearing their masks as much over you.

    Point is it's not gone, and mandates being lifted are for political expediency. I know many nurses who said masks were bullshit in most situations and I know some who lost their jobs over vaccine mandates.

    If you believe masks made any measurable difference, you believe a lie. Look no further than deaths by state and rationalize states that did very little as far as mandates/lockdowns go and those that lockdown hard.

    Also, the case count is spiking…Bigly


  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited March 2022
    Bob_C said:

    Goduckies said:

    Yes they are transitioning to a new system. IT guys have been here all week... and i trust the nurses that are no longer wearing their masks as much over you.

    Point is it's not gone, and mandates being lifted are for political expediency. I know many nurses who said masks were bullshit in most situations and I know some who lost their jobs over vaccine mandates.

    If you believe masks made any measurable difference, you believe a lie. Look no further than deaths by state and rationalize states that did very little as far as mandates/lockdowns go and those that lockdown hard.
    People I talk to here in woke King County like to bring up the low death rate in Washington as an example that it all worked. Would you rather be Florida they ask?

    I answer I’d rather be Utah than Washington, which has an even lower death rate than Washington and had very little mask mandates and has low vaccine uptake in general.

    There are tons of one on one comparables that can make points for both sides. But on the whole that just means there is no correlation between policy and outcomes. So you and I were right.

    Exactly. You look at the deaths by state and you can’t correlate them with mandates. There are other variables to consider. For example, when saying Florida has a worse outcome then Washington, no one is adjusting for the age of the population. When looking at Mississippi’s poor outcomes, no one is adjusting for obesity and race.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    Florida has lots of old people
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Florida has lots of old people

    No way!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Bob_C said:

    Goduckies said:

    Yes they are transitioning to a new system. IT guys have been here all week... and i trust the nurses that are no longer wearing their masks as much over you.

    Point is it's not gone, and mandates being lifted are for political expediency. I know many nurses who said masks were bullshit in most situations and I know some who lost their jobs over vaccine mandates.

    If you believe masks made any measurable difference, you believe a lie. Look no further than deaths by state and rationalize states that did very little as far as mandates/lockdowns go and those that lockdown hard.
    People I talk to here in woke King County like to bring up the low death rate in Washington as an example that it all worked. Would you rather be Florida they ask?

    I answer I’d rather be Utah than Washington, which has an even lower death rate than Washington and had very little mask mandates and has low vaccine uptake in general.

    There are tons of one on one comparables that can make points for both sides. But on the whole that just means there is no correlation between policy and outcomes. So you and I were right.

    Exactly. You look at the deaths by state and you can’t correlate them with mandates. There are other variables to consider. For example, when saying Florida has a worse outcome then Washington, no one is adjusting for the age of the population. When looking at Mississippi’s poor outcomes, no one is adjusting for obesity and race.
    When you factor in the average age of the people living in California and Florida there's hardly any difference in the death rates between the two states. Newsome is now out there crowing about what a great job he did in keeping California's death rate so low when compared to backwaters like Florida.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    Florida has lots of old people

    Florida has lots of old people

    No way!
    And Deathsantis
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    Goduckies said:

    Yes they are transitioning to a new system. IT guys have been here all week... and i trust the nurses that are no longer wearing their masks as much over you.

    Point is it's not gone, and mandates being lifted are for political expediency. I know many nurses who said masks were bullshit in most situations and I know some who lost their jobs over vaccine mandates.

    If you believe masks made any measurable difference, you believe a lie. Look no further than deaths by state and rationalize states that did very little as far as mandates/lockdowns go and those that lockdown hard.
    People I talk to here in woke King County like to bring up the low death rate in Washington as an example that it all worked. Would you rather be Florida they ask?

    I answer I’d rather be Utah than Washington, which has an even lower death rate than Washington and had very little mask mandates and has low vaccine uptake in general.

    There are tons of one on one comparables that can make points for both sides. But on the whole that just means there is no correlation between policy and outcomes. So you and I were right.

    I believe the Utes are the healthiest state, might mean something.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,633 Standard Supporter
    Doogles said:

    Bob_C said:

    Goduckies said:

    Yes they are transitioning to a new system. IT guys have been here all week... and i trust the nurses that are no longer wearing their masks as much over you.

    Point is it's not gone, and mandates being lifted are for political expediency. I know many nurses who said masks were bullshit in most situations and I know some who lost their jobs over vaccine mandates.

    If you believe masks made any measurable difference, you believe a lie. Look no further than deaths by state and rationalize states that did very little as far as mandates/lockdowns go and those that lockdown hard.
    People I talk to here in woke King County like to bring up the low death rate in Washington as an example that it all worked. Would you rather be Florida they ask?

    I answer I’d rather be Utah than Washington, which has an even lower death rate than Washington and had very little mask mandates and has low vaccine uptake in general.

    There are tons of one on one comparables that can make points for both sides. But on the whole that just means there is no correlation between policy and outcomes. So you and I were right.

    I believe the Utes are the healthiest state, might mean something.
    In my view, Mormon's substitute more food (particularly sugar) for no alcohol.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Bob_C said:

    Goduckies said:

    Yes they are transitioning to a new system. IT guys have been here all week... and i trust the nurses that are no longer wearing their masks as much over you.

    Point is it's not gone, and mandates being lifted are for political expediency. I know many nurses who said masks were bullshit in most situations and I know some who lost their jobs over vaccine mandates.

    If you believe masks made any measurable difference, you believe a lie. Look no further than deaths by state and rationalize states that did very little as far as mandates/lockdowns go and those that lockdown hard.
    People I talk to here in woke King County like to bring up the low death rate in Washington as an example that it all worked. Would you rather be Florida they ask?

    I answer I’d rather be Utah than Washington, which has an even lower death rate than Washington and had very little mask mandates and has low vaccine uptake in general.

    There are tons of one on one comparables that can make points for both sides. But on the whole that just means there is no correlation between policy and outcomes. So you and I were right.

    I believe the Utes are the healthiest state, might mean something.
    In my view, Mormon's substitute more food (particularly sugar) for no alcohol.
    Could be Colorado, one of those p12 late addition schools has the healthiest population. The Polynesian Mormon factor makes me believe I was thinking Colorado but giving @89ute credit for running marathons