What's old is new

WestlinnDuck said:

Bob_C said:

The crowd that was for Covid vaccine mandates on kids to go to school will be against the homeless being required to get help of any kind, well except for funding the NGO’s.

If I had to choose I would only make it mandatory to satisfy probation after a crime. Just swooping people up off the street seems too arbitrary in a sense and could be used for bad things, like thought crime.

It's not arbitrary. If I go to a State Park and don't pay my camping fee and refuse to pay and then don't leave, I'd get hauled off. Make camping illegal on public property and then haul them off. Sheriff Joe in Arizona hauled them off to tents. If they are dealing or in possession of meth or fentanyl charge them with that and keep them locked up. Pretending you can put them into a $500,000 apartment and have then stop using or stop being crazy is our current solution and we don't have enough money to do that and it doesn't work.

Public camping is already illegal in most places. You can thank the 9th Circuit and the feckless SC for their unwillingness to hear the appeal.

https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/articles/2020-02-10/western-cities-scramble-to-comply-with-court-ruling-on-homelessness

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Homeless should absolutely be forced in to diversion programs as a part of being incarcerated. They are largely incapable of doing anything for themselves. The libs thought it was compassionate to let them stay in tents for years and kill their brain cells with meth, heroine, etc.

Back when we actually enforced our drug laws the courts had a pretty good stick to use in order to get people into drug treatment programs. And yes I realize they mostly don't work and are a waste of time and money but we no longer have even that option. Talk to junkies and people who used to be out on the streets and were able to get out of that life. Almost all of them will tell you it was when they hit rock bottom and found themselves in prison. What we all need to accept is that most of these people will never be right in the head again, ever.

We need to establish a bare minimum of personal responsibility and behavior. No public camping, no public drug use, if you're engaging in either of those behaviors it's a certainty that you're also engaging in crime to feed your drug habit. Zero tolerance for theft. Start enforcing the laws and the people who can't follow the laws should be removed from civilized society. The law abiding people who pay for everything shouldn't have to continue to cede more and more of their public spaces to the criminals and degenerates.

UW_Doog_Bot said:

I am FOR court conservatorship of our tug leftists. Give them the authoritarianism they crave but do so on an individual level.

Fuck that. I don't want to be responsible for the Dazzler or Kobe. Can't fix stupid.