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An interesting request from a member of Ukrainian member of parliament

RoadTrip
RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club
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He is requesting no soldiers on the ground but is asking for the US to provide a no-fly zone over their country while his brothers fight on the ground. If Putin isn't stopped now, where does his pursuit end? Another point made by a reporter on the ground was Ukrain has no chance in the short run but over a longer period they will win the gorilla war and this prolinged war will mark the end of Putin. An interesting prediction.
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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    Raytheon stock to the moon!!!!
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited February 2022
    RoadTrip said:

    He is requesting no soldiers on the ground but is asking for the US to provide a no-fly zone over their country while his brothers fight on the ground. If Putin isn't stopped now, where does his pursuit end? Another point made by a reporter on the ground was Ukrain has no chance in the short run but over a longer period they will win the gorilla war and this prolinged war will mark the end of Putin. An interesting prediction.

    Enforcing a no-fly zone over the Ukraine while Russia invades? We might as well declare war on them now. It would be the surest way to escalate conflict. We start shooting down Russian aircraft and we're immediately in a hot war with Russia.
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    He is requesting no soldiers on the ground but is asking for the US to provide a no-fly zone over their country while his brothers fight on the ground. If Putin isn't stopped now, where does his pursuit end? Another point made by a reporter on the ground was Ukrain has no chance in the short run but over a longer period they will win the gorilla war and this prolinged war will mark the end of Putin. An interesting prediction.

    Enforcing a no-fly zone over the Ukraine while Russia invades? We might as well declare war on them now. It would be the surest way to escalate conflict. We start shooting down Russian aircraft and we're immediately in a hot war with Russia.
    Why do you hate democracy?
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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    RaceBannon said:

    America First

    Ukraine is no more valuable than Iraq or Afghanistan

    Wrong. Ukrainian women.
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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    He is requesting no soldiers on the ground but is asking for the US to provide a no-fly zone over their country while his brothers fight on the ground. If Putin isn't stopped now, where does his pursuit end? Another point made by a reporter on the ground was Ukrain has no chance in the short run but over a longer period they will win the gorilla war and this prolinged war will mark the end of Putin. An interesting prediction.

    Enforcing a no-fly zone over the Ukraine while Russia invades? We might as well declare war on them now. It would be the surest way to escalate conflict. We start shooting down Russian aircraft and we're immediately in a hot war with Russia.
    I get that. It was just an interesting idea. Are there any airforce resources in that part of the world which could thwart Russia? It's the only chance Ukraine would have to win a prolonged war with Russia.
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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    America First

    Ukraine is no more valuable than Iraq or Afghanistan

    True. But would Putin stop at Ukraine? Is there a red line for you in regard to his pursuits?
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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Ukraine is a quagmire in waiting

    I don't care

    America First

    You've been so right on so many important issues over the years that I simply have to say you are more wise than me.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Ukraine is a quagmire in waiting

    I don't care

    America First


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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Probably worth noting the size of Ukraine’s military compared to the balance of Europe

    Nobody knows what Putin’s end game truly is … but if he decides to keep heading west the numbers start declining quickly
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  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,002 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    He is requesting no soldiers on the ground but is asking for the US to provide a no-fly zone over their country while his brothers fight on the ground. If Putin isn't stopped now, where does his pursuit end? Another point made by a reporter on the ground was Ukrain has no chance in the short run but over a longer period they will win the gorilla war and this prolinged war will mark the end of Putin. An interesting prediction.

    Enforcing a no-fly zone over the Ukraine while Russia invades? We might as well declare war on them now. It would be the surest way to escalate conflict. We start shooting down Russian aircraft and we're immediately in a hot war with Russia.
    I get that. It was just an interesting idea. Are there any airforce resources in that part of the world which could thwart Russia? It's the only chance Ukraine would have to win a prolonged war with Russia.
    We can give them weapons, hopefully something more than blankets this time
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,651 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    RaceBannon said:

    America First

    Ukraine is no more valuable than Iraq or Afghanistan

    True. But would Putin stop at Ukraine? Is there a red line for you in regard to his pursuits?
    Let the Euros handle it and if they don't think its a threat, then why is it up to us to bail out Germany and France? We have absolutely no political or economic interest in the Ukrainian border.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    DerekJohnson said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Ukraine is a quagmire in waiting

    I don't care

    America First


    This is really good
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  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    RaceBannon said:

    Ukraine is a quagmire in waiting

    I don't care

    America First

    You're not rooting for the home team.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,323 Standard Supporter
    LoneStarDawg said:

    Raytheon stock to the moon!!!!

    I checked it this AM before even seeing your post. Sadly, no bounce, yet.
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