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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    So you are against fascism except for when it suits you.

    I don’t think private companies enforcing a tos is fascism and I don’t think DJ banning people here is either.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    hardhat said:

    So you are against fascism except for when it suits you.

    I don’t think private companies enforcing a tos is fascism and I don’t think DJ banning people here is either.
    Fair enough, we disagree. Technically, maybe, if the terms of service are clear and not arbitrary, I'd agree. In this case, I think you are aware of even left wing people being demonetized, kicked off youtube, etc and it isn't clear why. It's murky and it should be obvious what the politics are behind it. We still disagree and it's my opinion that the terms are not being fairly or objectively used. The pendulum can easily swing the other way too.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    hardhat said:

    H and kobe pretending to care about damage to the economy and supporting fascists says it all

    Really horrible people

    'It's hurting the economy, you guys!'
    'It's anarchy'

    FAGS
    Owning your own arguments to own the libs.
    Scratch a Leftist, find a Fascist. They go hand in hand Cobe. See Justin Trudeau.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    So you are against fascism except for when it suits you.

    I don’t think private companies enforcing a tos is fascism and I don’t think DJ banning people here is either.
    Fair enough, we disagree. Technically, maybe, if the terms of service are clear and not arbitrary, I'd agree. In this case, I think you are aware of even left wing people being demonetized, kicked off youtube, etc and it isn't clear why. It's murky and it should be obvious what the politics are behind it. We still disagree and it's my opinion that the terms are not being fairly or objectively used. The pendulum can easily swing the other way too.
    I believe a world where companies can’t have a tos is significantly worse than one where they can.

    Now those companies are always going to try and make their tos as murky as possible so they can enforce them however they want. They don’t want a set of rules that makes things fair, they want a set of rules that they can enforce arbitrarily so they can make decisions based on profit.

    Essentially I’m saying it’s never going to be fair but it’s better than the alternative.

    I also think a lot of this stuff is a mountain out of a mole hill. Right wing youtubers will lose their shit if a video gets demonized but that happens to left wingers all the time. It’s nothing to do with having a political position, it’s about the advertisers.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    edited February 2022

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    So you are against fascism except for when it suits you.

    I don’t think private companies enforcing a tos is fascism and I don’t think DJ banning people here is either.
    Fair enough, we disagree. Technically, maybe, if the terms of service are clear and not arbitrary, I'd agree. In this case, I think you are aware of even left wing people being demonetized, kicked off youtube, etc and it isn't clear why. It's murky and it should be obvious what the politics are behind it. We still disagree and it's my opinion that the terms are not being fairly or objectively used. The pendulum can easily swing the other way too.
    I believe a world where companies can’t have a tos is significantly worse than one where they can.

    Now those companies are always going to try and make their tos as murky as possible so they can enforce them however they want. They don’t want a set of rules that makes things fair, they want a set of rules that they can enforce arbitrarily so they can make decisions based on profit.

    Essentially I’m saying it’s never going to be fair but it’s better than the alternative.

    I also think a lot of this stuff is a mountain out of a mole hill. Right wing youtubers will lose their shit if a video gets demonized but that happens to left wingers all the time. It’s nothing to do with having a political position, it’s about the advertisers.
    I don't agree that this is just innocent private companies going on their own and trying to stamp out obscenities. Nearly 100% of the time, videos are pulled, accounts are suspended, and content is demonetized because someone is threatened by the narrative. It's either woke activists or elites pulling the strings. That's what the problem is. It's what China is doing. I do see that it somehow doesn't threaten you now because of your politics. I'm against this kind of double secret probation. It never ends well. I still can't understand why more people on the left aren't against this kind of system.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    I continue to enjoy you guys getting what you wanted and then “not like that”ing it.

    Hurting the economy is the worst thing ever. If people have to die for the economy that’s fine. These truckers are hurting the economy “NOT LIKE THAT”.

    Chumps.

    The workers want the government mandates forced onto private citizens by private companies to change. Kind of sounds like they don’t like fascism.
    Actual truckers, Canadian and American, overwhelmingly oppose this blockade. But American wing nuts love it.
    Liar
    Get out much?

    https://www.wnylabortoday.com/news/2022/02/14/national-labor-news/the-teamsters-denounce-the-freedom-convoy-blockade-at-the-canadian-border/#:~:text=The Teamsters Union denounces the ongoing Freedom Convoy,and manufacturing sectors is threatened by this blockade.
    Imagine the teamster Union being against freedom...
    dodge
    White flag from you. This should be your wet dream, wage slaves uniting against the man to protest unfair mandates that themselves are a drag on the economy. Instead you're all worked up and cheering on the government crackdown. Sad!
    I'm a law and order guy.

    Not like you "conservatives".
    You're a hypocrite. We have values, you have ideology.
    You "value" anarchy.
    I missed when you stumped for all of the people losing their businesses when real, card carrying anarchists burnt down our cities for 6 months in 2020.

    Must have been an oversight by me.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    So you are against fascism except for when it suits you.

    I don’t think private companies enforcing a tos is fascism and I don’t think DJ banning people here is either.
    Fair enough, we disagree. Technically, maybe, if the terms of service are clear and not arbitrary, I'd agree. In this case, I think you are aware of even left wing people being demonetized, kicked off youtube, etc and it isn't clear why. It's murky and it should be obvious what the politics are behind it. We still disagree and it's my opinion that the terms are not being fairly or objectively used. The pendulum can easily swing the other way too.
    I believe a world where companies can’t have a tos is significantly worse than one where they can.

    Now those companies are always going to try and make their tos as murky as possible so they can enforce them however they want. They don’t want a set of rules that makes things fair, they want a set of rules that they can enforce arbitrarily so they can make decisions based on profit.

    Essentially I’m saying it’s never going to be fair but it’s better than the alternative.

    I also think a lot of this stuff is a mountain out of a mole hill. Right wing youtubers will lose their shit if a video gets demonized but that happens to left wingers all the time. It’s nothing to do with having a political position, it’s about the advertisers.
    I don't agree that this is just innocent private companies going on their own and trying to stamp out obscenities. Nearly 100% of the time, videos are pulled, accounts are suspended, and content is demonetized because someone is threatened by the narrative. It's either woke activists or elites pulling the strings. That's what the problem is. It's what China is doing. I do see that it somehow doesn't threaten you now because of your politics. I'm against this kind of double secret probation. It never ends well. I still can't understand why more people on the left aren't against this kind of system.
    It’s not that I’m not threatened, it’s that I think it’ll happen to my side regardless.

    I see these arguments from the right like “if they do it to us they’ll do it to you”. Yeah but you would do it to me too.

    I view the current Trump brand of republicanism as fascism. It is the worst outcome. So if the libs want to take a baseball bat to it, good. It’s about fucking time they did something.

    Our fight will be our fight whether it’s you or them in power.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Doogles said:

    Fascism is when terms of service are enforced.

    Defiant Ls just retweeting what was already said.

    After the past 6 years of terrible takes the left has championed, it would be frustrating if someone had all the screenshots they need.
    He’s effective and embarrassing leftist losers daily. So of course he has to be silenced.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    So you are against fascism except for when it suits you.

    I don’t think private companies enforcing a tos is fascism and I don’t think DJ banning people here is either.
    Fair enough, we disagree. Technically, maybe, if the terms of service are clear and not arbitrary, I'd agree. In this case, I think you are aware of even left wing people being demonetized, kicked off youtube, etc and it isn't clear why. It's murky and it should be obvious what the politics are behind it. We still disagree and it's my opinion that the terms are not being fairly or objectively used. The pendulum can easily swing the other way too.
    I believe a world where companies can’t have a tos is significantly worse than one where they can.

    Now those companies are always going to try and make their tos as murky as possible so they can enforce them however they want. They don’t want a set of rules that makes things fair, they want a set of rules that they can enforce arbitrarily so they can make decisions based on profit.

    Essentially I’m saying it’s never going to be fair but it’s better than the alternative.

    I also think a lot of this stuff is a mountain out of a mole hill. Right wing youtubers will lose their shit if a video gets demonized but that happens to left wingers all the time. It’s nothing to do with having a political position, it’s about the advertisers.
    I don't agree that this is just innocent private companies going on their own and trying to stamp out obscenities. Nearly 100% of the time, videos are pulled, accounts are suspended, and content is demonetized because someone is threatened by the narrative. It's either woke activists or elites pulling the strings. That's what the problem is. It's what China is doing. I do see that it somehow doesn't threaten you now because of your politics. I'm against this kind of double secret probation. It never ends well. I still can't understand why more people on the left aren't against this kind of system.
    It’s not that I’m not threatened, it’s that I think it’ll happen to my side regardless.

    I see these arguments from the right like “if they do it to us they’ll do it to you”. Yeah but you would do it to me too.

    I view the current Trump brand of republicanism as fascism. It is the worst outcome. So if the libs want to take a baseball bat to it, good. It’s about fucking time they did something.

    Our fight will be our fight whether it’s you or them in power.
    Absolute gibberish. Rubbish. Nonsense. Simpleton talk.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,884
    Kaepsknee said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    I continue to enjoy you guys getting what you wanted and then “not like that”ing it.

    Hurting the economy is the worst thing ever. If people have to die for the economy that’s fine. These truckers are hurting the economy “NOT LIKE THAT”.

    Chumps.

    The workers want the government mandates forced onto private citizens by private companies to change. Kind of sounds like they don’t like fascism.
    Actual truckers, Canadian and American, overwhelmingly oppose this blockade. But American wing nuts love it.
    Liar
    Get out much?

    https://www.wnylabortoday.com/news/2022/02/14/national-labor-news/the-teamsters-denounce-the-freedom-convoy-blockade-at-the-canadian-border/#:~:text=The Teamsters Union denounces the ongoing Freedom Convoy,and manufacturing sectors is threatened by this blockade.
    Imagine the teamster Union being against freedom...
    dodge
    White flag from you. This should be your wet dream, wage slaves uniting against the man to protest unfair mandates that themselves are a drag on the economy. Instead you're all worked up and cheering on the government crackdown. Sad!
    I'm a law and order guy.

    Not like you "conservatives".
    You're a hypocrite. We have values, you have ideology.
    You "value" anarchy.
    I missed when you stumped for all of the people losing their businesses when real, card carrying anarchists burnt down our cities for 6 months in 2020.

    Must have been an oversight by me.
    Well you girls weren’t here defending the rioters in that case. Neither was I.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    46XiJCAB said:

    Remember how upset Dazzler was with Antifa/BLM when they were engaged in anarchy? He was here daily talking about what a "law & order" guy he was. He's a liar, always has been, always will be. It's as easy as breathing for him.

    He didn’t vote for them so no big deal.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    I continue to enjoy you guys getting what you wanted and then “not like that”ing it.

    Hurting the economy is the worst thing ever. If people have to die for the economy that’s fine. These truckers are hurting the economy “NOT LIKE THAT”.

    Chumps.

    The workers want the government mandates forced onto private citizens by private companies to change. Kind of sounds like they don’t like fascism.
    Actual truckers, Canadian and American, overwhelmingly oppose this blockade. But American wing nuts love it.
    Liar
    Get out much?

    https://www.wnylabortoday.com/news/2022/02/14/national-labor-news/the-teamsters-denounce-the-freedom-convoy-blockade-at-the-canadian-border/#:~:text=The Teamsters Union denounces the ongoing Freedom Convoy,and manufacturing sectors is threatened by this blockade.
    Imagine the teamster Union being against freedom...
    dodge
    White flag from you. This should be your wet dream, wage slaves uniting against the man to protest unfair mandates that themselves are a drag on the economy. Instead you're all worked up and cheering on the government crackdown. Sad!
    I'm a law and order guy.

    Not like you "conservatives".
    You're a hypocrite. We have values, you have ideology.
    You "value" anarchy.
    I missed when you stumped for all of the people losing their businesses when real, card carrying anarchists burnt down our cities for 6 months in 2020.

    Must have been an oversight by me.
    Well you girls weren’t here defending the rioters in that case. Neither was I.
    You donated to their cause.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,884
    Doogles said:

    HHusky said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    I continue to enjoy you guys getting what you wanted and then “not like that”ing it.

    Hurting the economy is the worst thing ever. If people have to die for the economy that’s fine. These truckers are hurting the economy “NOT LIKE THAT”.

    Chumps.

    The workers want the government mandates forced onto private citizens by private companies to change. Kind of sounds like they don’t like fascism.
    Actual truckers, Canadian and American, overwhelmingly oppose this blockade. But American wing nuts love it.
    Liar
    Get out much?

    https://www.wnylabortoday.com/news/2022/02/14/national-labor-news/the-teamsters-denounce-the-freedom-convoy-blockade-at-the-canadian-border/#:~:text=The Teamsters Union denounces the ongoing Freedom Convoy,and manufacturing sectors is threatened by this blockade.
    Imagine the teamster Union being against freedom...
    dodge
    White flag from you. This should be your wet dream, wage slaves uniting against the man to protest unfair mandates that themselves are a drag on the economy. Instead you're all worked up and cheering on the government crackdown. Sad!
    I'm a law and order guy.

    Not like you "conservatives".
    You're a hypocrite. We have values, you have ideology.
    You "value" anarchy.
    I missed when you stumped for all of the people losing their businesses when real, card carrying anarchists burnt down our cities for 6 months in 2020.

    Must have been an oversight by me.
    Well you girls weren’t here defending the rioters in that case. Neither was I.
    You donated to their cause.
    sure
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    So you are against fascism except for when it suits you.

    I don’t think private companies enforcing a tos is fascism and I don’t think DJ banning people here is either.
    Fair enough, we disagree. Technically, maybe, if the terms of service are clear and not arbitrary, I'd agree. In this case, I think you are aware of even left wing people being demonetized, kicked off youtube, etc and it isn't clear why. It's murky and it should be obvious what the politics are behind it. We still disagree and it's my opinion that the terms are not being fairly or objectively used. The pendulum can easily swing the other way too.
    I believe a world where companies can’t have a tos is significantly worse than one where they can.

    Now those companies are always going to try and make their tos as murky as possible so they can enforce them however they want. They don’t want a set of rules that makes things fair, they want a set of rules that they can enforce arbitrarily so they can make decisions based on profit.

    Essentially I’m saying it’s never going to be fair but it’s better than the alternative.

    I also think a lot of this stuff is a mountain out of a mole hill. Right wing youtubers will lose their shit if a video gets demonized but that happens to left wingers all the time. It’s nothing to do with having a political position, it’s about the advertisers.
    I don't agree that this is just innocent private companies going on their own and trying to stamp out obscenities. Nearly 100% of the time, videos are pulled, accounts are suspended, and content is demonetized because someone is threatened by the narrative. It's either woke activists or elites pulling the strings. That's what the problem is. It's what China is doing. I do see that it somehow doesn't threaten you now because of your politics. I'm against this kind of double secret probation. It never ends well. I still can't understand why more people on the left aren't against this kind of system.
    It’s not that I’m not threatened, it’s that I think it’ll happen to my side regardless.

    I see these arguments from the right like “if they do it to us they’ll do it to you”. Yeah but you would do it to me too.

    I view the current Trump brand of republicanism as fascism. It is the worst outcome. So if the libs want to take a baseball bat to it, good. It’s about fucking time they did something.

    Our fight will be our fight whether it’s you or them in power.
    I'm not on the right, but I view the woke left as a much more malignant force capable of destroying the country. How bad was it under Trump? Most people seem to feel we're worse off now. Having a bunch of woke sissy coders delete twitter accounts isn't much of a baseball bat either.

  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,584 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    I continue to enjoy you guys getting what you wanted and then “not like that”ing it.

    Hurting the economy is the worst thing ever. If people have to die for the economy that’s fine. These truckers are hurting the economy “NOT LIKE THAT”.

    Chumps.

    The workers want the government mandates forced onto private citizens by private companies to change. Kind of sounds like they don’t like fascism.
    Actual truckers, Canadian and American, overwhelmingly oppose this blockade. But American wing nuts love it.
    Liar
    Get out much?

    https://www.wnylabortoday.com/news/2022/02/14/national-labor-news/the-teamsters-denounce-the-freedom-convoy-blockade-at-the-canadian-border/#:~:text=The Teamsters Union denounces the ongoing Freedom Convoy,and manufacturing sectors is threatened by this blockade.
    Unions are woke losers and support 75 genders, abortion, and illegals now. No wonder you suddenly like them.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    edited February 2022
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    HHusky said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    I continue to enjoy you guys getting what you wanted and then “not like that”ing it.

    Hurting the economy is the worst thing ever. If people have to die for the economy that’s fine. These truckers are hurting the economy “NOT LIKE THAT”.

    Chumps.

    The workers want the government mandates forced onto private citizens by private companies to change. Kind of sounds like they don’t like fascism.
    Actual truckers, Canadian and American, overwhelmingly oppose this blockade. But American wing nuts love it.
    Liar
    Get out much?

    https://www.wnylabortoday.com/news/2022/02/14/national-labor-news/the-teamsters-denounce-the-freedom-convoy-blockade-at-the-canadian-border/#:~:text=The Teamsters Union denounces the ongoing Freedom Convoy,and manufacturing sectors is threatened by this blockade.
    Imagine the teamster Union being against freedom...
    dodge
    White flag from you. This should be your wet dream, wage slaves uniting against the man to protest unfair mandates that themselves are a drag on the economy. Instead you're all worked up and cheering on the government crackdown. Sad!
    I'm a law and order guy.

    Not like you "conservatives".
    You're a hypocrite. We have values, you have ideology.
    You "value" anarchy.
    I missed when you stumped for all of the people losing their businesses when real, card carrying anarchists burnt down our cities for 6 months in 2020.

    Must have been an oversight by me.
    Well you girls weren’t here defending the rioters in that case. Neither was I.
    I’ve heard that Silence is complicity.