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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    46XiJCAB said:

    Kobe doesn’t understand that two things can be true at the same time.

    You can support the working truckers and also believe a company can make as much profit as the market will allow.

    When a company cuts labor, to benefit the CEO and shareholders, is that pro worker?
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,053 Founders Club

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    They raised prices back in 2018 too, in the greatest economy in american history.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2018/06/07/starbucks-raises-coffee-prices-2018/amp/

    Raise prices, more profit, profit good. You guys must have missed that day in Econ 101.

    A little lesson for wanna-be Econ heroes with soft science degrees like Kobe...

    Raising prices in a competitive market is pretty much the LAST thing a CEO wants to do in order to maintain profit margins.

    Inflation and spiking CoGS are THE two external factors that force a company’s hand, in that regard.
    Lol.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/business/starbucks-posts-record-quarterly-sales-thanks-to-us-business/?amp=1

    It is not the last thing they want to do, the last thing they want to do is make less than last year.

    That’s the most bullshit use of the word “force” I’ve ever seen. Record profits and poor little Starbucks is forced to raise prices just to continue making record profits. It must be so hard. Their dick in your mouth that is.
    Nice subtle straw man to show everyone you don’t know what you’re talking about. Big corps would always rather cut costs than raise prices in a competitive market. Period.

    And the Seattle times article only focused on revenues, not profits, as you clumsily conflate in your response.

    Btw a CEO’s sole job is to maximize shareholder value. Increasing margins year over year is the goal of every FP business organization in the world.

    Why do I waste my time with you?
    Those profits are made off the backs of the laborers.

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.
    I was making the Dr. Evil air quotes when I posted it.

    That's called mocking.

    I know, buddy. I’d still say it.
    That's because you are stupid.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,757 Founders Club
    If a worker can't afford to fill up the car, heat the house and eat is the GND worker friendly?
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,053 Founders Club

    If a worker can't afford to fill up the car, heat the house and eat is the GND worker friendly?

    Well when you consider the great leap forward worker friendly...
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    If a worker can't afford to fill up the car, heat the house and eat is the GND worker friendly?

    Punting on 3rd down to own the libs.
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,332 Founders Club

    If a worker can't afford to fill up the car, heat the house and eat is the GND worker friendly?

    Punting on 3rd down to own the libs.
    How can you fail to understand everything? You're truly a marvel of modern ignorance
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,757 Founders Club

    If a worker can't afford to fill up the car, heat the house and eat is the GND worker friendly?

    Punting on 3rd down to own the libs.
    This made no sense

    Guess I stumped the band
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029
    Kobe trying his darndest to be the Dazzler.

  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,213 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    Kobe doesn’t understand that two things can be true at the same time.

    You can support the working truckers and also believe a company can make as much profit as the market will allow.

    When a company cuts labor, to benefit the CEO and shareholders, is that pro worker?
    Did you post this from your iPhone?
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    46XiJCAB said:

    Kobe doesn’t understand that two things can be true at the same time.

    You can support the working truckers and also believe a company can make as much profit as the market will allow.

    When a company cuts labor, to benefit the CEO and shareholders, is that pro worker?
    Yes, because the job is probably shitty and it frees those people up to look for something else.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,598 Standard Supporter

    They raised prices back in 2018 too, in the greatest economy in american history.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2018/06/07/starbucks-raises-coffee-prices-2018/amp/

    Raise prices, more profit, profit good. You guys must have missed that day in Econ 101.

    Just stop
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    you guys!
    I have just been informed of something major, a company did something so they could increase their profit. I am shocked.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,170 Standard Supporter

    They raised prices back in 2018 too, in the greatest economy in american history.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2018/06/07/starbucks-raises-coffee-prices-2018/amp/

    Raise prices, more profit, profit good. You guys must have missed that day in Econ 101.

    If people quit buying it they will also have to lower prices. Their product is a luxury good.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    Kobe doesn’t understand that two things can be true at the same time.

    You can support the working truckers and also believe a company can make as much profit as the market will allow.

    When a company cuts labor, to benefit the CEO and shareholders, is that pro worker?
    When you label all truckers protesting in Canada with the white nationalist and Nazi smear are you pro worker. Fuckwit?
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    If the coffee isn't worth the price increase, people will go elsewhere.

    This isn't hard.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Starbucks is a lot like Sports Apparel with one difference. Nike wearers will buy the sneaks or the dry fit even if the prices go up 25%. It’s all about the brand for them.

    Where Starbucks consumer will do the same, but only for the product. Not so much the brand. Starbucks product is entrenched into their daily want so deeply, that it’s a perceived need.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    No, you don’t get it. Wage increases are supposed to come by reducing profit and executive pay. I’m surprised you didn’t know that.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    46XiJCAB said:

    Kobe doesn’t understand that two things can be true at the same time.

    You can support the working truckers and also believe a company can make as much profit as the market will allow.

    When a company cuts labor, to benefit the CEO and shareholders, is that pro worker?
    Yes. And if you don’t understand why you’re and idiot.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter

    No, you don’t get it. Wage increases are supposed to come by reducing profit and executive pay. I’m surprised you didn’t know that.

    I was in the International Brotherhood of Chemical Workers Union and there is nothing more degrading to a productive worker than getting paid at the same rate as the least productive workers. And that any productive worker gets pounded daily by the least productive. Of course, the chemical plant is long gone. Last strike lasted four months and the by then the broke ass workers finally came back for a nickel raise. Plant became unprofitable and was closed down. Same thing with the teacher unions. I've had several friends that became teachers and most lasted just a few years and then left. Between the union and the inability to discipline their classrooms (supported by the teacher unions) they hated their jobs. You think the slobberer is a happy productive guy? Rhetorical question.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2022

    No, you don’t get it. Wage increases are supposed to come by reducing profit and executive pay. I’m surprised you didn’t know that.

    I was in the International Brotherhood of Chemical Workers Union and there is nothing more degrading to a productive worker than getting paid at the same rate as the least productive workers. And that any productive worker gets pounded daily by the least productive. Of course, the chemical plant is long gone. Last strike lasted four months and the by then the broke ass workers finally came back for a nickel raise. Plant became unprofitable and was closed down. Same thing with the teacher unions. I've had several friends that became teachers and most lasted just a few years and then left. Between the union and the inability to discipline their classrooms (supported by the teacher unions) they hated their jobs. You think the slobberer is a happy productive guy? Rhetorical question.
    Normal, ambitious people don’t become teachers so I think they are cool with the union. Those who get into teaching and hate being paid the same as bunch of lazy dumbasses leave pretty quickly. So what are we left with teaching kids? Lay people with socialist bend. They also know the school isn’t going out of business no matter what they do, so fuck it.

    Private business has the risk of flushing the whole thing.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter

    No, you don’t get it. Wage increases are supposed to come by reducing profit and executive pay. I’m surprised you didn’t know that.

    I was in the International Brotherhood of Chemical Workers Union and there is nothing more degrading to a productive worker than getting paid at the same rate as the least productive workers. And that any productive worker gets pounded daily by the least productive. Of course, the chemical plant is long gone. Last strike lasted four months and the by then the broke ass workers finally came back for a nickel raise. Plant became unprofitable and was closed down. Same thing with the teacher unions. I've had several friends that became teachers and most lasted just a few years and then left. Between the union and the inability to discipline their classrooms (supported by the teacher unions) they hated their jobs. You think the slobberer is a happy productive guy? Rhetorical question.
    Normal, ambitious people don’t become teachers so I think they are cool with the union. Those who get into teaching and hate being paid the same as bunch of lazy dumbasses leave pretty quickly. So what are we left with teaching kids? Lay people with socialist bend. They also know the school isn’t going out of business no matter what they do, so fuck it.

    Private business has the risk of flushing the whole thing.
    Never happen, but we need to isolate education spending from the commie bureaucrats and give it to the parents. I can tell you that the teachers at Jesuit High School in Beaverton are professionals and largely are paid less than public school teachers.