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  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    edited January 2022
    The Helms Foundation was one guy awarding national championships. The one guy was a friend of the baker.

    Also, it wasn’t even a foundation.

    They also went back in time and retroactively awarded championships to teams from the turn of the century and other random seasons, almost always placing a west coast team in as their, excuse me, HIS national champion.

    Pretty cool trophy, guys.

    hAnG THE bANnER!!!!



    Founded in 1936 by Bill Schroeder and Paul Helms, the Helms Athletic Foundation was based in Los Angeles, California. The name was a misnomer, as there actually was no foundation in place to sustain the operation. Instead the organization was subsidized completely by the operations of Helms Bakery, opened by Helms in Los Angeles.[1] Schroeder selected the foundation's national champion teams and made All-America team selections in a number of college sports, including football and basketball.[2]

    The Helms Foundation began releasing Schroeder's national championship selections for college basketball in 1943, when in February 1943 it published his retroactive picks for the national champion for each year from the 1919–20 through 1941–42 seasons.[1] Later in 1943, Schroeder picked a national basketball champion for the 1942–43 season, and he continued to select national basketball champions for the Helms Foundation annually through the 1981–82 season, its final year of selections.[1] In 1957, the Helms Foundation also released Schroeder's retroactive picks for the college basketball champions for the 1900–1901 through 1918–19 seasons.[1] The retroactive Helms titles from 1900–01 through 1941–42 were the well-researched opinions of one person about teams that played during an era when, due to factors outside their control (e.g., minimal schedules, lack of intersectional play, differing rule interpretations, minimal statistics), it is difficult to know or assess the relative strength of the teams.[1]

    In 1947, Schroeder retroactively selected national champions in college football dating from that year[2][1] back to the 1883 season.[1][3] The Helms Foundation also operated a hall of fame for both college basketball and college football. Besides collegiate athletics, the foundation operated halls of fame for professional football, Major League Baseball, the Pacific Coast League, basketball, fencing, golf, tennis, swimming, auto racing, track and field,[4] and soaring.[5]

    After Paul Helms' death in 1957, his family continued supporting the foundation until 1969, when the bakeries went out of business.[6] Schroeder found a new benefactor in United Savings & Loan,[6] and the foundation's name became United Savings–Helms Athletic Foundation.[7][8] United merged with Citizens Savings & Loan in 1973, when the foundation became the Citizens Savings Athletic Foundation.[6] It was again renamed in 1982 when First Interstate Bank assumed sponsorship, and it became the First Interstate Bank Athletic Foundation.[9][10] Paul Helms started Helms Bakery in Southern California, which was the official bread (Helms Olympic bread) of the 1932 Olympics. Helms Hall was located on 8760 Venice Boulevard in Los Angeles, California. The Helms Olympics neon sign still can be seen on top of the building.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,561 Founders Club
    UW 3, Zeroes 0
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,561 Founders Club
    Oregon is light years ahead of UW in hype and marketing. And yet can't even come up with one

    Sad
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    edited January 2022

    Oregon is light years ahead of UW in hype and marketing. And yet can't even come up with one

    Sad

    I’m perfectly fine with not “coming up with” national championships.

    I would have thought the same from someone who gets upset by Twitter posts and t-shirts.

    Guess not.

  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042

    Oregon is light years ahead of UW in hype and marketing. And yet can't even come up with one

    Sad

    For the record, Race, what years are you claiming Natties for U-Dub?

    &

    What year did they win the Helms Bakery National Championship?

    I remember Helms Bakery trucks in the 60’s in SoCal. They were similar to Schwann’s and had customers (our next door neighbors). No pre-order. Purchased from what they had in stock. They stayed in business by extending credit to their customers.
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited January 2022
    1960, 1984, 1990 & 1991 . . . ?

    We already know about the Helms Bakery Natty in 1960. Washington was not ranked No. 1 by either rating service (at the time) after the regular season or the Bowl Games.

    BTW: Navy beat Washington at Seattle. Missouri ran the table (undefeated) and beat Navy in their Bowl game.

    Washington was not ranked No. 1 by AP or UPI in 1984 or 1990 . . . Not even close.

    You’re back to 1/2 a Natty in 1991.

    Best of luck in the future!

  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042

    Washington is 3-0 in national title games

    Do tell.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,561 Founders Club
    Triggered

    Never gets old
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    Triggered

    Never gets old



  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Is CJ still gone?