Huff and Adams
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat
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Product of the head coach.
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Bad as they both are I’m not worried about offense with DeBoer running the show. They’ll both answer to superiors and provide a needed boost to recruiting.
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I think this may have been a stopgap measure on keeping players and recruits. You lose Adams and you likely lose Rome, McMillan, Taj, and Germie.
Huff has sucked as a coach but the players love him. You drop Huff and you could see 5+ linemen transfer out and no chance at Vega or Connerly.
I think the hope is that Grubb (good OL coach) will have a positive influence on Huff. -
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This. Even if you retain them for just one year, it prevents a mass exodus and DeBoer having to start the program from scratch.bananasnblondes said:I think this may have been a stopgap measure on keeping players and recruits. You lose Adams and you likely lose Rome, McMillan, Taj, and Germie.
Huff has sucked as a coach but the players love him. You drop Huff and you could see 5+ linemen transfer out and no chance at Vega or Connerly.
I think the hope is that Grubb (good OL coach) will have a positive influence on Huff. -
I'm probably asking for it but I've come around on both coaches after this news. Huff had a good track-record before JonDon and Lake showed up.
And since he took over as WR coach, Adams improved the talent of his position group more than any other coach. -
I get the Huff hate, but Adams is a little harder to conclude on. The WR position is the most dependent unit on a football team, and given the hideous dogshit we've had at OC and QB during Junior's time, I'm not convinced that he sucks.
Maybe a more football astute poster (not you fudgie) could explain to me why his on-the-field product is shit in isolation. -
Watch the pass pro schemes in the 2019 Colorado game and the 2021 Michigan game. I know you don't value opinion but watch for yourself.GreenRiverGatorz said:I get the Huff hate, but Adams is a little harder to conclude on. The WR position is the most dependent unit on a football team, and given the hideous dogshit we've had at OC and QB during Junior's time, I'm not convinced that he sucks.
Maybe a more football astute poster (not you fudgie) could explain to me why his on-the-field product is shit in isolation. -
Regardless of scheme our oLine was on skates vs Michigan. The jailbreak scheme seemed to be the protection of choice.backthepack said:
Watch the pass pro schemes in the 2019 Colorado game and the 2021 Michigan game. I know you don't value opinion but watch for yourself.GreenRiverGatorz said:I get the Huff hate, but Adams is a little harder to conclude on. The WR position is the most dependent unit on a football team, and given the hideous dogshit we've had at OC and QB during Junior's time, I'm not convinced that he sucks.
Maybe a more football astute poster (not you fudgie) could explain to me why his on-the-field product is shit in isolation.
Vs Colorado more evidence we’ve never been able to pick up a blitz. -
When I was watching Fresno today, their OL is bad and Haener was constantly pressured and running around. Sorry @RaceBannon, Haener is really good.bananasnblondes said:I think this may have been a stopgap measure on keeping players and recruits. You lose Adams and you likely lose Rome, McMillan, Taj, and Germie.
Huff has sucked as a coach but the players love him. You drop Huff and you could see 5+ linemen transfer out and no chance at Vega or Connerly.
I think the hope is that Grubb (good OL coach) will have a positive influence on Huff. -
Their oLine was bad all year. Vs oregon, UCLA and Hawaii especially.RoadDawg55 said:
When I was watching Fresno today, their OL is bad and Haener was constantly pressured and running around. Sorry @RaceBannon, Haener is really good.bananasnblondes said:I think this may have been a stopgap measure on keeping players and recruits. You lose Adams and you likely lose Rome, McMillan, Taj, and Germie.
Huff has sucked as a coach but the players love him. You drop Huff and you could see 5+ linemen transfer out and no chance at Vega or Connerly.
I think the hope is that Grubb (good OL coach) will have a positive influence on Huff.
They do send out their backs a lot though on hot routes and pick up big plays sometimes. -
DeBoer is a fraud. Keeping huff showed it. @RaceBannon was right. Mountain west program. As usual, the opposite of what fudge says is the case
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Given the way they played this season that might not be the worst thing that could happen.bananasnblondes said:You drop Huff and you could see 5+ linemen transfer out
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Huff can still be broomed if he doesn’t close the kid from Beach
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As cold blooded as it would be, this would make me happy. Keep Huff to keep and get recruits and send him packing. Just fluff it up and say he found another job. DeBoner can find him somewhere to land.PurpleThrobber said:Huff can still be broomed if he doesn’t close the kid from Beach
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What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching gamesLongDukDong said:
Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat -
What are you watching? Athletic yes but consistently drop open passes and also lack of effort is embarrassing at times. If they truly were a bright spot they likely would be transferring to a big time program right now because they would be getting recruited by the big boys. Their tape is not good. Hopefully they put it together but nobody that plays us is thinking “damn those wr’s are gonna be a problem for our secondary.”ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat -
Big disagree.ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat -
Complete Ditto. And if you believe Millen (which I do). He said after the Arizona game Rome/Jalen essentially told Dylan AND Junior to pound sand on the sidelines by either not listening and/or walking away from them.AtomicDawg said:
What are you watching? Athletic yes but consistently drop open passes and also lack of effort is embarrassing at times. If they truly were a bright spot they likely would be transferring to a big time program right now because they would be getting recruited by the big boys. Their tape is not good. Hopefully they put it together but nobody that plays us is thinking “damn those wr’s are gonna be a problem for our secondary.”ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat -
Dude has been making, what, $500K for the last 10 years. If he can't financially sustain a year off, he's a fucking financial illiterate.RoadDawg55 said:
As cold blooded as it would be, this would make me happy. Keep Huff to keep and get recruits and send him packing. Just fluff it up and say he found another job. DeBoner can find him somewhere to land.PurpleThrobber said:Huff can still be broomed if he doesn’t close the kid from Beach
Pay Huff a going away severance and GTFO. Christ, sloppy tits choked down $10 Million to Jimmy for doing nothing - Huff's walk away money is chump change.
Fuck that guy.
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I'm going to be super generous and think that a deep funk and malaise had spread throughout the team and the receivers, who never bought into JDon just didn't care any more.AtomicDawg said:
What are you watching? Athletic yes but consistently drop open passes and also lack of effort is embarrassing at times. If they truly were a bright spot they likely would be transferring to a big time program right now because they would be getting recruited by the big boys. Their tape is not good. Hopefully they put it together but nobody that plays us is thinking “damn those wr’s are gonna be a problem for our secondary.”ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat
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The Jimmy virus made it hard to compete on any level, so I'm definitely willing to LIFPO with every player and give them the chance to redeem themselves.kickinthenutshuskies said:
I'm going to be super generous and think that a deep funk and malaise had spread throughout the team and the receivers, who never bought into JDon just didn't care any more.AtomicDawg said:
What are you watching? Athletic yes but consistently drop open passes and also lack of effort is embarrassing at times. If they truly were a bright spot they likely would be transferring to a big time program right now because they would be getting recruited by the big boys. Their tape is not good. Hopefully they put it together but nobody that plays us is thinking “damn those wr’s are gonna be a problem for our secondary.”ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat
Except for Asa Turner. He should portal to Liberty and fuck off forever. -
It’s funny to think turner would have any options if he put his name in the portal.GreenRiverGatorz said:
The Jimmy virus made it hard to compete on any level, so I'm definitely willing to LIFPO with every player and give them the chance to redeem themselves.kickinthenutshuskies said:
I'm going to be super generous and think that a deep funk and malaise had spread throughout the team and the receivers, who never bought into JDon just didn't care any more.AtomicDawg said:
What are you watching? Athletic yes but consistently drop open passes and also lack of effort is embarrassing at times. If they truly were a bright spot they likely would be transferring to a big time program right now because they would be getting recruited by the big boys. Their tape is not good. Hopefully they put it together but nobody that plays us is thinking “damn those wr’s are gonna be a problem for our secondary.”ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat
Except for Asa Turner. He should portal to Liberty and fuck off forever.
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What if they moved him to corner? His physicality is poor but he is athletic and with long arms so he could be a good zone DB and squeak by in man vs. bigger WRs.AtomicDawg said:
It’s funny to think turner would have any options if he put his name in the portal.GreenRiverGatorz said:
The Jimmy virus made it hard to compete on any level, so I'm definitely willing to LIFPO with every player and give them the chance to redeem themselves.kickinthenutshuskies said:
I'm going to be super generous and think that a deep funk and malaise had spread throughout the team and the receivers, who never bought into JDon just didn't care any more.AtomicDawg said:
What are you watching? Athletic yes but consistently drop open passes and also lack of effort is embarrassing at times. If they truly were a bright spot they likely would be transferring to a big time program right now because they would be getting recruited by the big boys. Their tape is not good. Hopefully they put it together but nobody that plays us is thinking “damn those wr’s are gonna be a problem for our secondary.”ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat
Except for Asa Turner. He should portal to Liberty and fuck off forever.
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Having turner as the contain vs a toss sweep with lead blockers is an automatic 15 yard gain. He is not a football player. He just needs to fake an injury and get his degree and leave.HFNY said:
What if they moved him to corner? His physicality is poor but he is athletic and with long arms so he could be a good zone DB and squeak by in man vs. bigger WRs.AtomicDawg said:
It’s funny to think turner would have any options if he put his name in the portal.GreenRiverGatorz said:
The Jimmy virus made it hard to compete on any level, so I'm definitely willing to LIFPO with every player and give them the chance to redeem themselves.kickinthenutshuskies said:
I'm going to be super generous and think that a deep funk and malaise had spread throughout the team and the receivers, who never bought into JDon just didn't care any more.AtomicDawg said:
What are you watching? Athletic yes but consistently drop open passes and also lack of effort is embarrassing at times. If they truly were a bright spot they likely would be transferring to a big time program right now because they would be getting recruited by the big boys. Their tape is not good. Hopefully they put it together but nobody that plays us is thinking “damn those wr’s are gonna be a problem for our secondary.”ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat
Except for Asa Turner. He should portal to Liberty and fuck off forever.
Then portal in a better fit at safety to compete for a starting job / provide depth. -
McMillan definitely quit and I did see him with the attitude on the sideline. I couldn't remember which game it became glaringly obvious but the Arizona one sounds about right.godawgst said:
Complete Ditto. And if you believe Millen (which I do). He said after the Arizona game Rome/Jalen essentially told Dylan AND Junior to pound sand on the sidelines by either not listening and/or walking away from them.AtomicDawg said:
What are you watching? Athletic yes but consistently drop open passes and also lack of effort is embarrassing at times. If they truly were a bright spot they likely would be transferring to a big time program right now because they would be getting recruited by the big boys. Their tape is not good. Hopefully they put it together but nobody that plays us is thinking “damn those wr’s are gonna be a problem for our secondary.”ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat -
It’s all on DeBoner. If he’s the coach we? thought he might be right after his kick-ass presser and demands results from his assistants — and takes responsibility for his decisions, making changes quickly if it becomes clear they flat out suck — then it could work.
It’s been a while since we? had a responsible adult leading the program who gives a shit.
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Why would you cater to a scholarship football player who is too soft to adequately play football? Position changes are for guys who deserve them, not just for pussies who are afraid of contact. Fuck no on cornerback. He's a bad seed and needs to be gone. Other players see that lack of effort and toughness and it becomes the new standard, especially when it's an overhyped, formerly high 4* player and starter.HFNY said:
What if they moved him to corner? His physicality is poor but he is athletic and with long arms so he could be a good zone DB and squeak by in man vs. bigger WRs.AtomicDawg said:
It’s funny to think turner would have any options if he put his name in the portal.GreenRiverGatorz said:
The Jimmy virus made it hard to compete on any level, so I'm definitely willing to LIFPO with every player and give them the chance to redeem themselves.kickinthenutshuskies said:
I'm going to be super generous and think that a deep funk and malaise had spread throughout the team and the receivers, who never bought into JDon just didn't care any more.AtomicDawg said:
What are you watching? Athletic yes but consistently drop open passes and also lack of effort is embarrassing at times. If they truly were a bright spot they likely would be transferring to a big time program right now because they would be getting recruited by the big boys. Their tape is not good. Hopefully they put it together but nobody that plays us is thinking “damn those wr’s are gonna be a problem for our secondary.”ATLDawg said:What are you talking about the Wide Receiver room has been a bright spot, athletic and playmakers when given the opportunity. Davis, NcMillan, Bynum, & Odunze we’re good in a shitty offense. Keep acting like your watching games
LongDukDong said:Both good recruiters but dogshit coaches last two years. We will see how they do this next year. LIPO but with a short ass leash
However if they suck again: no warning just gone faster than you can say Jack Sprat
Except for Asa Turner. He should portal to Liberty and fuck off forever.
Then portal in a better fit at safety to compete for a starting job / provide depth.
What bugs me after reading a bit about the defense is that the nickel is a hybrid LB and that Turner fits it well (along with Hampton). My guess is he's not going anywhere.
