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Caple discusses the most important part of the team.

Passion
Passion Member Posts: 4,622
The defensive line: thenewstribune.com/2014/08/12/3328421/uw-football-whos-next-in-line.html?sp=/99/512/513/524/

I honestly thought that Tupuo would make the kind of splash that Kikaha made when he arrived, or that Dissly seems to be making now. Hopefully this means the Everett native is finally showing up.

Occasionally we're hearing about Vita Vea and Jaylon Johnson, but one name that I haven't seen in the local rags - Greg Gaines. Kid is probably getting pounded by Charles, Tanigawa, and Christe, and getting in shape in the process.

My man crush on Caple will be complete if he continues with pieces like this.

The Formula: Push up the middle and Heat from the edge.

Comments

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Passion, if you haven't watched Vea's highlight video, I suggest you do so. He's out of shape and probably 20 pounds overweight, but I will be surprised if he isn't a monster in a year or 2.

    Good news about Tupou. I didn't expect much of him. Maybe getting a fresh start with a new staff is what he needed.

    Dissley is a surprise. I know Mathis has been hurt, but I wasn't impressed with him last year. He looked fat and soft. Too slow to be a DE, too small to be a DT. Of course, a redshirt year should have happened.

    Choate said McGary is raw, but has huge potential. He's massive and doesn't have much fat at all. However, if he's not figuring it out by mid season, maybe he should switch to OL. We could also use him at tackle.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622

    Passion, if you haven't watched Vea's highlight video, I suggest you do so. He's out of shape and probably 20 pounds overweight, but I will be surprised if he isn't a monster in a year or 2.

    Good news about Tupou. I didn't expect much of him. Maybe getting a fresh start with a new staff is what he needed.

    Dissley is a surprise. I know Mathis has been hurt, but I wasn't impressed with him last year. He looked fat and soft. Too slow to be a DE, too small to be a DT. Of course, a redshirt year should have happened.

    Choate said McGary is raw, but has huge potential. He's massive and doesn't have much fat at all. However, if he's not figuring it out by mid season, maybe he should switch to OL. We could also use him at tackle.

    I've seen it. If Vea has any motivation - at all - he should be an absolute terror.

    Mathis is a bid of a head scratcher. He has all the tools to be an force as a Red Bryant-type DE, or a 3-technique in passing situations. Might be a work ethic issue.

    Elijah Qualls? Elijah Qualls? Bueller? Bueller?
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited August 2014
    By the way, Evan Hudson was interviewed after practice Wednesday and identified a freshman that has impressed him thus far - Will Dissly.

    TF: PUTMHFTE
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Not hard to see that Dissly would be a player for anybody that knows shit ... he's clearly got a work ethic based on his background ... but he was a high caliber basketball player in HS as well while playing WR on offense ... if you have the ability to do that at a relatively high level that means that you have to have quickness ... place that kind of athlete on the DL and it's not shocking to see a kid that is able to beat OL off the ball, penetrate into the backfield, and cause problems.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    edited August 2014
    Tequilla said:

    Not hard to see that Dissly would be a player for anybody that knows shit ... he's clearly got a work ethic based on his background ... but he was a high caliber basketball player in HS as well while playing WR on offense ... if you have the ability to do that at a relatively high level that means that you have to have quickness ... place that kind of athlete on the DL and it's not shocking to see a kid that is able to beat OL off the ball, penetrate into the backfield, and cause problems.

    Disagree. There are a lot of kids who fit that criteria that end up doing nothing in college. I doubt that will be Dissley, but it could. He's getting reps with the twos, big deal.

    I did like Dissley though coming out of high school. Coming in at 6'4" 270 instead of the 6'4" 240 he was listed at in high school definitely helps.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Heard that Shelton has taken Vea under his wing and grooming him as the heir replacement to his NT throne.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991

    Is this Dissley the new one star legend? I mean its been about 25 years since the last one

    Nate Robinson or Mason Foster were the most recent ones.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Is this Dissley the new one star legend? I mean its been about 25 years since the last one

    Nate Robinson or Mason Foster were the most recent ones.
    Donald Butler and Cort Dennison say hi.
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,168
    Passion said:

    Passion, if you haven't watched Vea's highlight video, I suggest you do so. He's out of shape and probably 20 pounds overweight, but I will be surprised if he isn't a monster in a year or 2.

    Good news about Tupou. I didn't expect much of him. Maybe getting a fresh start with a new staff is what he needed.

    Dissley is a surprise. I know Mathis has been hurt, but I wasn't impressed with him last year. He looked fat and soft. Too slow to be a DE, too small to be a DT. Of course, a redshirt year should have happened.

    Choate said McGary is raw, but has huge potential. He's massive and doesn't have much fat at all. However, if he's not figuring it out by mid season, maybe he should switch to OL. We could also use him at tackle.

    I've seen it. If Vea has any motivation - at all - he should be an absolute terror.

    Mathis is a bid of a head scratcher. He has all the tools to be an force as a Red Bryant-type DE, or a 3-technique in passing situations. Might be a work ethic issue.

    Elijah Qualls? Elijah Qualls? Bueller? Bueller?
    I don't get the Mathis-Red comparison. Two totally different body types there. I guess they both play strongside DE, but I think Mathis has far more pass rush upside. I would say that Michael Bennett would be a more appropriate comparison, as I agree with you that he could move inside on passing downs. Regardless, it's nice to see some actual talent on our DL.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Not to be all one star legend superiority guy but Nate Robinson was a 6 star basketball player at the Beach who played football as a hobby. The other guys are no Stan Empterman.

    Being a one star legend is very exclusive. Its not scrappy Ty recruits. A legend is legendary

    Its been 25 years.

    Case closed
  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    edited August 2014

    Not to be all one star legend superiority guy but Nate Robinson was a 6 star basketball player at the Beach who played football as a hobby. The other guys are no Stan Empterman.

    Being a one star legend is very exclusive. Its not scrappy Ty recruits. A legend is legendary

    Its been 25 years.

    Case closed

    Game. Set. Match.

    (Self imposed $75k for tennis reference)

  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991

    Not to be all one star legend superiority guy but Nate Robinson was a 6 star basketball player at the Beach who played football as a hobby. The other guys are no Stan Empterman.

    Being a one star legend is very exclusive. Its not scrappy Ty recruits. A legend is legendary

    Its been 25 years.

    Case closed

    One star legend superiority guy
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Can't wait for Dissly to roam the sidelines on crisp Fall days this season.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331



    Good news about Tupou. I didn't expect much of him. Maybe getting a fresh start with a new staff is what he needed.

    Dissley is a surprise. I know Mathis has been hurt, but I wasn't impressed with him last year. He looked fat and soft. Too slow to be a DE, too small to be a DT. Of course, a redshirt year should have happened.

    Choate said McGary is raw, but has huge potential. He's massive and doesn't have much fat at all. However, if he's not figuring it out by mid season, maybe he should switch to OL. We could also use him at tackle.

    These rumors of player development haven't been heard since the turn of the century. Maybe the fan base will like their players the longer the stay for a change.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Vea will step right in for Shelton next year. Qualls is doing fine. He has earned decent reviews so far and will be a good depth player. Mathis should have been red shirted. My guess is if Mathis sticks it out here he will be one of those guys who is good as a senior and we'll all think "he really needs another year."

    The other thing about the DL is it improved noticeably at the end of last season but it went unrealized. Littleton, Hudson and Jamora all improved.

    Too bad Vea probably won't be ready to contribute this season. The push from the middle is where further improvement can be made.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club

    Is this Dissley the new one star legend? I mean its been about 25 years since the last one

    Nate Robinson or Mason Foster were the most recent ones.
    Donald Butler and Cort Dennison say hi.
    Never mention Cort Dennison and Donald Butler in the same sentence ever again. Dismissed.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    Cort dennison is the original husky half brain mascot. Mention him whenever the hell you feel like it.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Mason Foster being a 2 star QB and what he turned into is pretty crazy.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991

    Vea will step right in for Shelton next year. Qualls is doing fine. He has earned decent reviews so far and will be a good depth player. Mathis should have been red shirted. My guess is if Mathis sticks it out here he will be one of those guys who is good as a senior and we'll all think "he really needs another year."

    The other thing about the DL is it improved noticeably at the end of last season but it went unrealized. Littleton, Hudson and Jamora all improved.

    Too bad Vea probably won't be ready to contribute this season. The push from the middle is where further improvement can be made.

    I think Mathis and Vea both redshirt this year.

    I'm fairly certain Mathis is injured since he hasn't been running with the 1s, 2s or 3s in fall camp (and didn't run gassers during the open practice). If he's going to miss significant time early this season, the coaching staff should just redshirt him and get him ready for 2015.

    Vea didn't have the entire spring and summer to work out with the team and likely doesn't have the conditioning to last the entire season at NT. He should be destined for a redshirt year this year.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited August 2014

    Vea will step right in for Shelton next year. Qualls is doing fine. He has earned decent reviews so far and will be a good depth player. Mathis should have been red shirted. My guess is if Mathis sticks it out here he will be one of those guys who is good as a senior and we'll all think "he really needs another year."

    The other thing about the DL is it improved noticeably at the end of last season but it went unrealized. Littleton, Hudson and Jamora all improved.

    Too bad Vea probably won't be ready to contribute this season. The push from the middle is where further improvement can be made.

    I think Mathis and Vea both redshirt this year.
    I hope you're right. Right now Mathis is on the long list of redshirts that were burned by stupid people.

    Addendum: In Caple's most recent practice report, Mathis wasn't even mentioned. Me thinks your suspicion of an injury could be accurate. Either that or he is just completely underperforming.

    Link: blog.thenewstribune.com/uwsports/2014/08/13/day-10-troy-williams-jaydon-mickens-connect-for-play-of-the-day/#more-31387
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Yeah, but is he better than Ossai?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    I'm not so sure Vea redshirts. Maybe they play him into shape the first couple games. A redshirt year would be great, but they might need him to be Shelton's primary back up.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991

    I'm not so sure Vea redshirts. Maybe they play him into shape the first couple games. A redshirt year would be great, but they might need him to be Shelton's primary back up.

    Qualls is Shelton's back up right now and Qualls has done well with the 2s. I don't see any reason why they should play Vea this year, especially if he is out of shape since he missed spring and summer conditioning.