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    TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,337
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    I think the way Jimmy was fired was fine, actually. The fact that he never should have gotten the job in the first place is unforgivable.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,860
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    I don't get the Sark obsession around here. Are we still in the jilted lover phase?

    I laugh at Texass regardless
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    gmogmo Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,644
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    chuck said:

    ntxduck said:

    There’s no chance he gets fired this year…right?

    I don't pay much attention to contracts. They must owe him an awful lot of money if it's too expensive to dump him though. What more do they need to see?
    So, this is also decently interesting in how screwed they are. Reportedly Sark has a 6 year $34.2 million contract. However on top of that they still owe Herman $10M over two years. It is Texas, but do you really think an AD has the cohones to walk into the Chancellor's office of a public school to ask to swallow a second large contract and hire a third coach on the books at say $25-$30 million? Not including presumably a considerable amount of other sunk costs in coordinators and staff. How would that conversation go exactly?

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    gmogmo Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,644
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    ntxduck said:

    There’s no chance he gets fired this year…right?

    You have to wonder, when are these dumbfuck ADs going to quit paying fuck-you money to these idiots over long term contracts? Pay them a solid wage with MASSIVE incentive bonuses.

    Jimmy Lake is Exhibit A on how NOT to hire/fire a coach. $10 fucking million for jack shit. Sark is going to get shit canned and walk away with a pile of money. Why? They are losers.

    And don't give me that bullshit line about how much money football brings in. Sure, but having to bring in a shitload of money PLUS $10 Million to pay off failed coach is fucking stupid business.

    Kick these stupid career in college athletics ADs to the curb and bring in some real business people. It's a product. Sell it, make it better, manage the finances.

    AD Cohen has no business being in the position she is in. Outlasting everyone else in the department who does not equal competence.


    And the dumbfuck Cuog reject who is Texas' AD is no better.


    I agree with you on most of this, however how exactly is that going to go if the going rate for a Big 5 coach is X and the astute "real business person" tries to sign the hot coaching candidates low guaranteed money? 0.0% chance of landing any of them as long as everyone else is willing to guarantee the big money.

    You are dead on in terms of the mindset though... it's govt/bureaucratic/politician type thinking vs. running your own business that you own. Funny when it's your own money how differently you treat it.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,863
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    gmo said:

    ntxduck said:

    There’s no chance he gets fired this year…right?

    You have to wonder, when are these dumbfuck ADs going to quit paying fuck-you money to these idiots over long term contracts? Pay them a solid wage with MASSIVE incentive bonuses.

    Jimmy Lake is Exhibit A on how NOT to hire/fire a coach. $10 fucking million for jack shit. Sark is going to get shit canned and walk away with a pile of money. Why? They are losers.

    And don't give me that bullshit line about how much money football brings in. Sure, but having to bring in a shitload of money PLUS $10 Million to pay off failed coach is fucking stupid business.

    Kick these stupid career in college athletics ADs to the curb and bring in some real business people. It's a product. Sell it, make it better, manage the finances.

    AD Cohen has no business being in the position she is in. Outlasting everyone else in the department who does not equal competence.


    And the dumbfuck Cuog reject who is Texas' AD is no better.


    I agree with you on most of this, however how exactly is that going to go if the going rate for a Big 5 coach is X and the astute "real business person" tries to sign the hot coaching candidates low guaranteed money? 0.0% chance of landing any of them as long as everyone else is willing to guarantee the big money.

    You are dead on in terms of the mindset though... it's govt/bureaucratic/politician type thinking vs. running your own business that you own. Funny when it's your own money how differently you treat it.
    Because a real business person would call bullshit and run it like a business. A REAL business person would apologize for years of inflating coaches’ salaries. They’d treat the fans and boosters like customers instead of cash machines.

    Fans and boosters are just as dumb to continue to pay into the current fuckery.

    People act like football coaches are some rare commodity. They aren’t. There are literally tens of thousands of them in this country.

    It would only take one business-oriented AD to take make a statement. The rest are sheep and would do the same.

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    AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 6,985
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    gmo said:

    ntxduck said:

    There’s no chance he gets fired this year…right?

    You have to wonder, when are these dumbfuck ADs going to quit paying fuck-you money to these idiots over long term contracts? Pay them a solid wage with MASSIVE incentive bonuses.

    Jimmy Lake is Exhibit A on how NOT to hire/fire a coach. $10 fucking million for jack shit. Sark is going to get shit canned and walk away with a pile of money. Why? They are losers.

    And don't give me that bullshit line about how much money football brings in. Sure, but having to bring in a shitload of money PLUS $10 Million to pay off failed coach is fucking stupid business.

    Kick these stupid career in college athletics ADs to the curb and bring in some real business people. It's a product. Sell it, make it better, manage the finances.

    AD Cohen has no business being in the position she is in. Outlasting everyone else in the department who does not equal competence.


    And the dumbfuck Cuog reject who is Texas' AD is no better.


    I agree with you on most of this, however how exactly is that going to go if the going rate for a Big 5 coach is X and the astute "real business person" tries to sign the hot coaching candidates low guaranteed money? 0.0% chance of landing any of them as long as everyone else is willing to guarantee the big money.

    You are dead on in terms of the mindset though... it's govt/bureaucratic/politician type thinking vs. running your own business that you own. Funny when it's your own money how differently you treat it.
    Because a real business person would call bullshit and run it like a business. A REAL business person would apologize for years of inflating coaches’ salaries. They’d treat the fans and boosters like customers instead of cash machines.

    Fans and boosters are just as dumb to continue to pay into the current fuckery.

    People act like football coaches are some rare commodity. They aren’t. There are literally tens of thousands of them in this country.

    It would only take one business-oriented AD to take make a statement. The rest are sheep and would do the same.

    You could take that mindset as an AD but that doesn’t mean a top tier coach is signing.

    Jen was stupid in that she guaranteed Donovan for 3 years and bumped his pay higher than the last oc when he had zero leverage.
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    rodmansragerodmansrage Member Posts: 6,022
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    take meeeeeeee hoooooooooommmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    chuck said:

    gmo said:

    chuck said:

    ntxduck said:

    There’s no chance he gets fired this year…right?

    I don't pay much attention to contracts. They must owe him an awful lot of money if it's too expensive to dump him though. What more do they need to see?
    So, this is also decently interesting in how screwed they are. Reportedly Sark has a 6 year $34.2 million contract. However on top of that they still owe Herman $10M over two years. It is Texas, but do you really think an AD has the cohones to walk into the Chancellor's office of a public school to ask to swallow a second large contract and hire a third coach on the books at say $25-$30 million? Not including presumably a considerable amount of other sunk costs in coordinators and staff. How would that conversation go exactly?

    JFC. That's some funny shit. Who the actual fuck would have guaranteed him $34 million? Man.
    Sark has the best agent ever
    I used to think it was Kirk Ferentzezez's. Sark's is next level.



    Maybe it's the same guym?!?!?!
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,863
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    gmo said:

    ntxduck said:

    There’s no chance he gets fired this year…right?

    You have to wonder, when are these dumbfuck ADs going to quit paying fuck-you money to these idiots over long term contracts? Pay them a solid wage with MASSIVE incentive bonuses.

    Jimmy Lake is Exhibit A on how NOT to hire/fire a coach. $10 fucking million for jack shit. Sark is going to get shit canned and walk away with a pile of money. Why? They are losers.

    And don't give me that bullshit line about how much money football brings in. Sure, but having to bring in a shitload of money PLUS $10 Million to pay off failed coach is fucking stupid business.

    Kick these stupid career in college athletics ADs to the curb and bring in some real business people. It's a product. Sell it, make it better, manage the finances.

    AD Cohen has no business being in the position she is in. Outlasting everyone else in the department who does not equal competence.


    And the dumbfuck Cuog reject who is Texas' AD is no better.


    I agree with you on most of this, however how exactly is that going to go if the going rate for a Big 5 coach is X and the astute "real business person" tries to sign the hot coaching candidates low guaranteed money? 0.0% chance of landing any of them as long as everyone else is willing to guarantee the big money.

    You are dead on in terms of the mindset though... it's govt/bureaucratic/politician type thinking vs. running your own business that you own. Funny when it's your own money how differently you treat it.
    Because a real business person would call bullshit and run it like a business. A REAL business person would apologize for years of inflating coaches’ salaries. They’d treat the fans and boosters like customers instead of cash machines.

    Fans and boosters are just as dumb to continue to pay into the current fuckery.

    People act like football coaches are some rare commodity. They aren’t. There are literally tens of thousands of them in this country.

    It would only take one business-oriented AD to take make a statement. The rest are sheep and would do the same.

    You could take that mindset as an AD but that doesn’t mean a top tier coach is signing.

    Jen was stupid in that she guaranteed Donovan for 3 years and bumped his pay higher than the last oc when he had zero leverage.
    That's one of my points - why the FUCK are they offering these clowns long term contracts? Get it done or GTFO.

    Dipshit like Jimmy will never ever ever make $3 Million per year doing anything but this con game. He's not C-level suite smart (Peterman 'might' be). Jimmy's not. Wilcox is not. Harsin is not.

    It's absurd the fake labor market these AD's have created trying to keep up with the Jones'. Fuck those guys.
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    phineasphineas Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,724
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    I don't get the Sark obsession around here. Are we still in the jilted lover phase?

    i love sark
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    haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,497
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    I don't get the Sark obsession around here. Are we still in the jilted lover phase?

    He specifically targeted UW assistants because he was so butthurt he couldn't beat them. FTG and fuck UT. Leaving for the SEC when they can't even beat their own league.
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    I don't get the Sark obsession around here. Are we still in the jilted lover phase?

    Have you heard Sark talk? It is fucking hilarious. It is a beautiful hybrid of coach speak and used car salesman with a sprinkle of dude brah on top. Super entertaining.
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