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One of the many quaint beliefs the Left has about the US is that it's a relatively low-tax country

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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,181 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Gee there just isn't anywhere else to cut

    Embarrassing
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Gee there just isn't anywhere else to cut

    Embarrassing
    The olds miss the point a lot too.

    What entitlements are you going to vote to deprive yourself of, Race?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Gee there just isn't anywhere else to cut

    Embarrassing
    The olds miss the point a lot too.

    What entitlements are you going to vote to deprive yourself of, Race?
    Gee there just isn't anywhere else to cut

    Embarrassing
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,622 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Cut spending on public education to zero and give each parent $12k per kid and call it good. Far cheaper and then you would actually get some education. Cut the hundreds of billions in federal and state renewable tax credits, ethanol and renewable energy standards. You leftards love public transit and the public in the vast majority of the country hate it and the public danger it entails. Tens of billions of dollars for a choo choo train from nowhere to nowhere in Cali. It's like the dazzler is deaf, dumb and blind.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Cut spending on public education to zero and give each parent $12k per kid and call it good. Far cheaper and then you would actually get some education. Cut the hundreds of billions in federal and state renewable tax credits, ethanol and renewable energy standards. You leftards love public transit and the public in the vast majority of the country hate it and the public danger it entails. Tens of billions of dollars for a choo choo train from nowhere to nowhere in Cali. It's like the dazzler is deaf, dumb and blind.
    See? Gasbag ain’t giving up any of his entitlements, where the really big money is. He’d cut nickel and dime items though.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    SACRAMENTO (AP) — The California High-Speed Rail Authority on Wednesday bumped its overall cost estimate for completing the rail line between San Francisco and Los Angeles to $80.3 billion, blaming inflationary increases and better cost projections for a $1.3 billion boost that still is smaller than in previous years.

    After years of embarrassing cost overruns and delays, managers of California’s ambitious bullet-train project insisted that they are on pace to meet a preliminary 2022 federal deadline for laying track along the first segment in the Central Valley.


    The voters approved 9 billion. Now this is state money with Obama stimulus money and now Biden and Buttboy money and not a fucking rail has been laid and no one even wants it anymore

    But hey there just isn't any fat anywhere to cut

    3 trillion for unicorns and bike lanes just passed

    WHAT ENTITLEMENTS WOULD YOU CUT????


    Since I'm not a retard like H I don't fall for the old the GOP wants to kill your grandma bullshit

    I fall for the Duck fans want to kill your grandma bullshit
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    My effective tax rate is 36%.

    Fuck off.

    Bull fucking shit.
    Fuck off. I’m being generous. It’s likely higher.

    You’re fucking idiot.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited November 2021
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    My effective tax rate is 36%.

    Fuck off.

    The dazzler still won't deal with the all important marginal tax rates. The economy can't expand without investment. As even the dazzler has reluctantly admitted that investment decision are made using the marginal tax rate. The higher the marginal tax rate, the lower the after tax cash flow which generates the after tax rate of return. Then toss in inflation. Inflation brings risk into the investment decision. The more inflation uncertainty, the more risk and the more risk requires a higher rate of return. That's why businesses are leaving California and moving to Texas. Building a new plant in Texas is cheaper and the business tax rate is substantially lower and their in no state personal income tax. When you want to punish profitable US based businesses, they have the alternative of leaving the US, and moving their investment offshore.

    Anyone still think the dazzler has an MBA?
    Off topic. Start your own thread, Gasbag.
    Yeah, when you are demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge regarding effective rates and marginal rates, I'd say "off topic" as a deflection point.
    Yet the topic is effective rates and the wildly exaggerated claims you girls make about them.
    How is a 36% effective rate an exaggeration. Just because you can’t understand it, doesn’t make it false. Idiot.

    I showed you a simple case where I person making $140k pays 33%. You said bullshit. I told you to show your work, which you couldn’t do. You’re a dumb fuck.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,622 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Cut spending on public education to zero and give each parent $12k per kid and call it good. Far cheaper and then you would actually get some education. Cut the hundreds of billions in federal and state renewable tax credits, ethanol and renewable energy standards. You leftards love public transit and the public in the vast majority of the country hate it and the public danger it entails. Tens of billions of dollars for a choo choo train from nowhere to nowhere in Cali. It's like the dazzler is deaf, dumb and blind.
    See? Gasbag ain’t giving up any of his entitlements, where the really big money is. He’d cut nickel and dime items though.
    What entitlements? Don't hurt yourself. I've paid far more into medicare and social security than I will ever take out. You suck at this.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    I'm hearing that the US isn't a high tax country... wait...okay it is in some areas... whoops...but you gals are so hysterical... anyone in those areas isn't forced to be there, those people are stupid and they should move.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,181 Founders Club
    hardhat said:

    I'm hearing that the US isn't a high tax country... wait...okay it is in some areas... whoops...but you gals are so hysterical... anyone in those areas isn't forced to be there, those people are stupid and they should move.

    Oh right and we should model the country off of those dysfunctional states.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    edited November 2021
    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,117 Standard Supporter
    Doogles said:



    Can't trust my lying eyes

    Disappointed at the lack of 'porn' piece of pie in your monthly chart.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    So why is that what you want to cut?


    Round and round we go
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    edited November 2021
    Speaking of entitlements, and dumbfuck lefty think that we all just need to be taxed more so everything will be alright:

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    So why is that what you want to cut?


    Round and round we go
    It's where the money is. It absolutely dwarfs the miniscule shit you guys always bring up. And it's growing.



  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    So why is that what you want to cut?


    Round and round we go
    It's where the money is. It absolutely dwarfs the miniscule shit you guys always bring up. And it's growing.



    Bullshit. Hundreds of millions are wasted on the homeless in Seattle alone.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    So why is that what you want to cut?


    Round and round we go
    It's where the money is. It absolutely dwarfs the miniscule shit you guys always bring up. And it's growing.



    Another H post another H lie


    Remember its an ENTITLEMENT meaning that since we paid in we are entitled to the promise

    You act like its an income tax

    25% dwarfs 75%
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,622 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    If you are a taker, sure. If you have paid into it at gunpoint far more than you are taking out, for some reason, I don't feel entitled. Words actually have meaning.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    If you are a taker, sure. If you have paid into it at gunpoint far more than you are taking out, for some reason, I don't feel entitled. Words actually have meaning.
    Words do have meaning. You should learn what an entitlement is.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,622 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    If you are a taker, sure. If you have paid into it at gunpoint far more than you are taking out, for some reason, I don't feel entitled. Words actually have meaning.
    Words do have meaning. You should learn what an entitlement is.
    You should read what I wrote and comment on that.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    edited November 2021

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    If you are a taker, sure. If you have paid into it at gunpoint far more than you are taking out, for some reason, I don't feel entitled. Words actually have meaning.
    Words do have meaning. You should learn what an entitlement is.
    You should read what I wrote and comment on that.
    I don't remember any guns being pointed at me, but I paid in too. I had no idea your feelings could change the meaning of words.

    Better?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,622 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    If you are a taker, sure. If you have paid into it at gunpoint far more than you are taking out, for some reason, I don't feel entitled. Words actually have meaning.
    Words do have meaning. You should learn what an entitlement is.
    You should read what I wrote and comment on that.
    I don't remember any guns being pointed at me, but I paid in too.
    Good for you. And if you didn't, they come and arrest you and they carry guns. You seem pretty stupid and unaware for a supposed attorney.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Medicare and Social Security are entitlements. How did you not know that, Gasbag?

    If you are a taker, sure. If you have paid into it at gunpoint far more than you are taking out, for some reason, I don't feel entitled. Words actually have meaning.
    Words do have meaning. You should learn what an entitlement is.
    You should read what I wrote and comment on that.
    I don't remember any guns being pointed at me, but I paid in too.
    Good for you. And if you didn't, they come and arrest you and they carry guns. You seem pretty stupid and unaware for a supposed attorney.
    grim
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club

    Doogles said:



    Can't trust my lying eyes

    Disappointed at the lack of 'porn' piece of pie in your monthly chart.

    See: Other
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,844 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
    This began with a bunch of hysteria over how high your taxes are and continues with hypotheticals about how much someone could conceivably pay. Damone is the exception, but he either can’t do math or is lying his ass off.

    No. It began with a tweet that triggered you.
    Feel free to read it again if you like. All you've done with us is call us gals and then mock us. Note that I haven't done the same to you. There is no dispute that the US isn't a low tax country. Plenty of examples for that. And there isn't a dispute that the fucked up system of local and federal governments misuse the funds they get and just keep asking for more. How many millions of dollars are wasted by Seattle, San Francsisco and other cities on 'the homeless' and yet we just keep hearing how more taxes will fix it. Damone's not lying.
    A tweet about SF and NY. The only two places anyone can live in the United States.
    So you're not disputing anything. And you want everyone in those states to move.
    People who voluntarily pay higher taxes must not think taxes are so high that they should leave.
    Why are so many leaving then? Evidently shitty attorney aren't fleeing but most everyone else is. We're taking up a collection for occupation checks at our border.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
    This began with a bunch of hysteria over how high your taxes are and continues with hypotheticals about how much someone could conceivably pay. Damone is the exception, but he either can’t do math or is lying his ass off.

    No. It began with a tweet that triggered you.
    Feel free to read it again if you like. All you've done with us is call us gals and then mock us. Note that I haven't done the same to you. There is no dispute that the US isn't a low tax country. Plenty of examples for that. And there isn't a dispute that the fucked up system of local and federal governments misuse the funds they get and just keep asking for more. How many millions of dollars are wasted by Seattle, San Francsisco and other cities on 'the homeless' and yet we just keep hearing how more taxes will fix it. Damone's not lying.
    A tweet about SF and NY. The only two places anyone can live in the United States.
    So you're not disputing anything. And you want everyone in those states to move.
    People who voluntarily pay higher taxes must not think taxes are so high that they should leave.
    Why are so many leaving then? Evidently shitty attorney aren't fleeing but most everyone else is. We're taking up a collection for occupation checks at our border.
    If there are "so many leaving", seems like California will have to consider policy changes. I'm all for people voting with their feet. LIPO
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,622 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
    This began with a bunch of hysteria over how high your taxes are and continues with hypotheticals about how much someone could conceivably pay. Damone is the exception, but he either can’t do math or is lying his ass off.

    No. It began with a tweet that triggered you.
    Feel free to read it again if you like. All you've done with us is call us gals and then mock us. Note that I haven't done the same to you. There is no dispute that the US isn't a low tax country. Plenty of examples for that. And there isn't a dispute that the fucked up system of local and federal governments misuse the funds they get and just keep asking for more. How many millions of dollars are wasted by Seattle, San Francsisco and other cities on 'the homeless' and yet we just keep hearing how more taxes will fix it. Damone's not lying.
    A tweet about SF and NY. The only two places anyone can live in the United States.
    So you're not disputing anything. And you want everyone in those states to move.
    People who voluntarily pay higher taxes must not think taxes are so high that they should leave.
    Why are so many leaving then? Evidently shitty attorney aren't fleeing but most everyone else is. We're taking up a collection for occupation checks at our border.
    If there are "so many leaving", seems like California will have to consider policy changes. I'm all for people voting with their feet. LIPO
    Sort of like Detroit. In 1960 Detroit was the wealthiest US city with more millionaires that New York City. Then it wasn't. Seems like a weird thing to root for but then that's why your the dazzler.