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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Fishpo31 said:

    Since this has become a WIAA classification thread, I would just like to ask if anyone knows how that actually works anymore. It can’t be just based off of enrollment like it used to be. There are shitty public schools with like 1500 kids that play in AA now while Catholic schools with half as many students play in AAA.
    To my knowledge AAAA is still based on enrollment. But it seems like the lower divisions are almost on a relegation system now.

    At one time, schools could opt up, or down. When I was doing the HS thing, we would meet with the AD before reclassification and vote on it. We were AAA enrollment, but close enough to choose. Don't know if it's the same now...we always opted up.
    Can't opt down, can opt up. A rule went in place a couple years ago that modifies headcount downward based on number of free/reduced lunches at a high school, can't remember the discount multiple. I guess you could think of that as an option to opt-down, but it is based on something. I'm guessing that's why Monroe was 3A this year, cuz that school is huge.

    If you're talking about O'Dea re "half as many students," I think they are counted 2x because of boys-only enrollment.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,657 Founders Club

    Tumwater was a good double A program


    Not triple A like Olympia but good

    #MyTBirds won state their first year jumping up to AAA.

    Lost to the only AA team we played that year.
    Just sayin'
    Cheers--

    Olympia was probably 4 A by then

    Aberdeen was our rival in the legendary Southwest League

    Close - that was fall '93 and the state didn't switch to calling it 4A until 1996.
    Confusingly, what was AAA became 4A, AA became 3A.
    They added a new 2A I assume from the bottom end of the old AA enrollment size.

    Tumwater won the top classification, and Capital lost in the semis of the second highest classification, which was sweet too.

    In 1997 they split the district when Black Hills opened, and THS dropped back down to 3A. A decade later they re-re-did classifications again and THS and co dropped to 2A.
    I know, CSB. I'll just go fuck myself.
    Cheers--
    Way past my time

    I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,166 Standard Supporter
    We went up to AAA in 1995 or something. Suddenly we played all these Kitsap teams like Olympic instead of Metrosexual schools. It was odd.
  • NoWarningJustDawg
    NoWarningJustDawg Member Posts: 1,000
    To relate the prep gridiron hawt talk to the current shituation, I just hope we? get someone with experience coaching at the highest level in a football state.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,886 Founders Club

    Tumwater was a good double A program


    Not triple A like Olympia but good

    #MyTBirds won state their first year jumping up to AAA.

    Lost to the only AA team we played that year.
    Just sayin'
    Cheers--

    Olympia was probably 4 A by then

    Aberdeen was our rival in the legendary Southwest League

    Close - that was fall '93 and the state didn't switch to calling it 4A until 1996.
    Confusingly, what was AAA became 4A, AA became 3A.
    They added a new 2A I assume from the bottom end of the old AA enrollment size.

    Tumwater won the top classification, and Capital lost in the semis of the second highest classification, which was sweet too.

    In 1997 they split the district when Black Hills opened, and THS dropped back down to 3A. A decade later they re-re-did classifications again and THS and co dropped to 2A.
    I know, CSB. I'll just go fuck myself.
    Cheers--
    Way past my time

    I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
    2A is the "best" football classification in Warshington, in a sense. Schools big enough to fill out varsity, JV and freshman teams, and communities small enough that football is a centerpiece. It's also got a couple of the most consistent powers, Lynden, Tumwater, Prosser, places like that.
    This is a great take. Arlington and Marysville being in 3A feels like a punishment. Get to the tournament and know you will have to play a private school at some point and your season is essentially over.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,713

    Tumwater was a good double A program


    Not triple A like Olympia but good

    #MyTBirds won state their first year jumping up to AAA.

    Lost to the only AA team we played that year.
    Just sayin'
    Cheers--

    Olympia was probably 4 A by then

    Aberdeen was our rival in the legendary Southwest League

    Close - that was fall '93 and the state didn't switch to calling it 4A until 1996.
    Confusingly, what was AAA became 4A, AA became 3A.
    They added a new 2A I assume from the bottom end of the old AA enrollment size.

    Tumwater won the top classification, and Capital lost in the semis of the second highest classification, which was sweet too.

    In 1997 they split the district when Black Hills opened, and THS dropped back down to 3A. A decade later they re-re-did classifications again and THS and co dropped to 2A.
    I know, CSB. I'll just go fuck myself.
    Cheers--
    Way past my time

    I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
    2A is the "best" football classification in Warshington, in a sense. Schools big enough to fill out varsity, JV and freshman teams, and communities small enough that football is a centerpiece. It's also got a couple of the most consistent powers, Lynden, Tumwater, Prosser, places like that.
    This is a great take. Arlington and Marysville being in 3A feels like a punishment. Get to the tournament and know you will have to play a private school at some point and your season is essentially over.
    Arlington and Marysville wouldnt win state in 2A

    Excuses
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Tumwater was a good double A program


    Not triple A like Olympia but good

    #MyTBirds won state their first year jumping up to AAA.

    Lost to the only AA team we played that year.
    Just sayin'
    Cheers--

    Olympia was probably 4 A by then

    Aberdeen was our rival in the legendary Southwest League

    Close - that was fall '93 and the state didn't switch to calling it 4A until 1996.
    Confusingly, what was AAA became 4A, AA became 3A.
    They added a new 2A I assume from the bottom end of the old AA enrollment size.

    Tumwater won the top classification, and Capital lost in the semis of the second highest classification, which was sweet too.

    In 1997 they split the district when Black Hills opened, and THS dropped back down to 3A. A decade later they re-re-did classifications again and THS and co dropped to 2A.
    I know, CSB. I'll just go fuck myself.
    Cheers--
    Way past my time

    I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
    2A is the "best" football classification in Warshington, in a sense. Schools big enough to fill out varsity, JV and freshman teams, and communities small enough that football is a centerpiece. It's also got a couple of the most consistent powers, Lynden, Tumwater, Prosser, places like that.
    This is a great take. Arlington and Marysville being in 3A feels like a punishment. Get to the tournament and know you will have to play a private school at some point and your season is essentially over.
    The WESCO 3A bracket draws are almost always wretched. It's too bad, because WESCO probably has the best westside 3A community support, just not the quality of play to get far in playoffs in last decade or two.

    2A has the perennials, and then a revolving group like Hockinson, Pullman, Sedro, Othello, etc. that rise up to make the classification more competitive at the state round o' 16 level.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    Wesco football is garbage outside of Lake Stevens. This is cringe